dude, that is what was linked and quoted a few posts above
― Nhex, Thursday, 4 April 2013 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
great link! ;)
― your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Thursday, 4 April 2013 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I dunno, my support for this was totally raspberry pi style. I want a low powered TV-connected machine with a game pad which I can hack around with and play emulators on. If I'd bought into it thinking "yes! new console!" then I guess I'd be rightly disappointed but has anyone actually done that? (Mine hasn't actually shipped yet, may change my tune when it arrives).
― JimD, Thursday, 4 April 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
probably should've actually looked at the thread tbh
― markers, Thursday, 4 April 2013 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think anyone's unwittingly signed up to be a beta tester - people who have an Ouya now know what they're getting into.
Yup. It's $99 - not $599. People know what they're getting, especially people who dropped money into the kickstarter.
I only watched the video review, but complaining it took some effort to get emulators and ROMs to work, but that they were able to, was a weird complaint - did they think you could just press a button and have every old game downloaded and running on the console (or maybe that they would be preloaded)?
― JCL, Thursday, 4 April 2013 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
that d-pad looks as crappy as the 360 one, can you pair up other controllers with this thing?
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 4 April 2013 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
I've heard you can, any bluetooth controller (including the ps3 one), or the wired 360 one will work (not the wireless 360 one yet though). The problem is the other controllers don't have the touchpad you need to navigate menus and play some games...
― JCL, Thursday, 4 April 2013 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
It's Bluetooth so I'm sure someone will hack it. The touchpad might be an issue though. OTOH if someone got a PS4 controller working with this that'd be hilarious.
― Will you see a political publicity stunt? (snoball), Thursday, 4 April 2013 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
The PS4 controller is gonna cost at least $60 alone
― Nhex, Thursday, 4 April 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I know, but surely someone will hack it to show off their skills. Just because a hack is expensive and has limited value doesn't stop people.
― Will you see a political publicity stunt? (snoball), Thursday, 4 April 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
man, if it can run an NES/SNES/Genesis/Turbographix emulator we're all good
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 03:42 (eleven years ago) link
i really just want a retro system for roms, the end.
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 03:43 (eleven years ago) link
related: http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=528855
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 03:48 (eleven years ago) link
plain old hacked wii is pretty good at running the roms...
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 5 April 2013 05:24 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hKKCoTlDjHo
― JimD, Friday, 5 April 2013 05:59 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59CjuKmGwyo
― JimD, Friday, 5 April 2013 06:00 (eleven years ago) link
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 03:48 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol at people complaining about how nes games look in hd
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Friday, 5 April 2013 06:36 (eleven years ago) link
i know how that sounds, but old systems often look really bad on HDTVs, worse than they did on CRTs
― Nhex, Friday, 5 April 2013 12:26 (eleven years ago) link
Old CRTs did add a certain fuzziness to the picture which can be hard to separate from the whole aesthetic of retro games. The first time I ran a BBC Micro emulator full screen on a PC with an LCD display, it was a bit of a shock, because everything was so crisp and someone how much blockier that I remembered.
― Will you see a political publicity stunt? (snoball), Friday, 5 April 2013 12:46 (eleven years ago) link
Some LCD TVs (and emulators) try to "solve" the blocky sharpness by curving the lines and it looks even worse.
RE: Ouya tho, give it time. AFAIK there are a few big companies that are planning on supporting the thing.
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Friday, 5 April 2013 13:14 (eleven years ago) link
xp Bear in mind that 8-bit/16-bit era games were designed visually with the limitation/feature of scanlines, so it is jarring when you see pixel perfect emulation. Sometimes it looks crisp and great, but other times it looks very strange. We discussed this a little bit in another thread, that some emulators now are trying to solve this problem with special filters and such, but it's a trickier problem than it sounds. In general, old analog inputs into modern HDTVs generally don't look so good
― Nhex, Friday, 5 April 2013 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
Most emulators have something like "X frames of motion blur" which doesn't really cut it. Though I'm definitely in the camp that doesn't want CRT-ification filters.
― Will you see a political publicity stunt? (snoball), Friday, 5 April 2013 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
And in general interpolation/upscale filters on LCD TVs are terrible regardless of whether you're looking at a console or a TV programme.
― Will you see a political publicity stunt? (snoball), Friday, 5 April 2013 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
I agree, but only because right now they're all terrible. I think at some point if they can solve the math problem or whatever it is to make it look the way it was originally did, it's an option we should have rather than everything being super-crisp or 4xAA.
― Nhex, Friday, 5 April 2013 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
that retron controller looks so uncomfortable
― original bgm, Friday, 5 April 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
guys i know all this about scanlines
the solution is, get a CRT tv, and a NES
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Friday, 5 April 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
eh, putting roms on an SD card onto a flash cart is sooooooo cumbersome, who wants to do that?
― Nhex, Friday, 5 April 2013 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
yeh retron controller is rubbish, but you can plug in any NES, SNES or Genesis/Megadrive controller supposedlyi'm interested in how it turns out, but they seem to be promising a lot of stuff that looks hard to deliver
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 5 April 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
so, despite being one of the earliest fools kickstarters, I am apparently one of the very last set of people to receive the console. they send a weekly email update with the shipping stats, and the % of Ouyas that have been shipped to early funders is at around 90% or higher.
:(
― your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
That sucks. Couldn't they have sent out the consoles in the order that people paid?
― go cray cray on my lobster soufflé (snoball), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
i got mine. made so little of an impression that i didn't even think to post!
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
I'm basically going to use it to emulate older games, I guess. Sigh. and if someone figures out cool ways to hack it and blow my miiiiiind duuuuuude, then that as well.
What's your opinion on the controller?
― your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
the controller feels cheap as shit but it feels okay in the hands.the only appeal so far (and it's a big one) is that there are genesis/snes/ds/gameboy/nes emulators available for immediate download so this is the no frills 100 buck emu console I've been waiting for. Now i just need another life where i can replay all my old games.
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I've had no shipping notification yet, seems a bit of a shambles really. Apparently they e had to push back their retail launch date etc. But yeah, hard to get too miffed about delays given that I'm only going to be using it to play 10+ year old games.
― JimD, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
would you guys get behind some kind of open gaming platform that ran on existing last-gen consoles (ps2,xbox,wii,etc...) through some sort of hackery? i always thought that the way to do this sort of thing would be to take advantage of the hardware that's already in most people's houses.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
prefer Steambox-like "platform" to open up; their marketplace may be curated, but they have most of what you already need (open PC platform, TV output and controller input standards)
― Nhex, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link
could ouya run steambox client?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
now THAT is an interesting question.
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
btw, i don't dig that this thing is by default always online and reporting back so i basically unplug it whenever i'm not using it... it's also the fourth HDMI on a three HDMI tv soooo....
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link
finally received my ouya in the mail. i tried a few emulators. the EMUya seems to work really well for NES - no complaints there. MUPEN64 is the first n64 emulator i've ever tried, and it doesn't appear to work at all (rogue squadron wouldn't even load, mario golf had visual chaos all over the screen, and mario tennis is like having a slow motion seizure).
of the modernish games, deep dungeons of doom is really fun!
― Z S, Saturday, 8 June 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link
how does the controller feel?
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 8 June 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
it feels fine to me, although i think probably more forgiving than most. there was a moment where one of the buttons got stuck, but that was because when i put the faceplate back on after inserting the batteries i didn't push it into the proper position. the d-pad feels good (which is especially important to me because i'm mainly playing old games and modern games with a retro feel). haven't really used the analog sticks much. the triggers feel good to me as well.
i kinda wish it had a start button! it has an ouya button which lets you exit out of games or back to the home screen, but a lot of older games are like "PRESS START!" at the beginning and it would be nice to..press start.
― Z S, Saturday, 8 June 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
sorry, first sentence should read "...i think I'M probably more forgiving..."
in terms of the controller. in real life i am ruthless, don't blink, and drink blood
― Z S, Saturday, 8 June 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
one thing that i wish existed (if someone knows of it, please let me know!) is some sort of website for reviews/recommendations of ouya games. the menu system for browsing through games to download is not so helpful. three of the categories (CHECK IT, STAFFPICKS, and FAVS) all seem to cover the same territory. i find myself wishing that there was a website that would just recommend 10 games to try out. actually, there sort of is already, but it is...not a good website.
― Z S, Saturday, 8 June 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
another gripe - games need to be upfront about what is available as free content and what's going to cost extra. for example, like many people i downloaded Final Fantasy III immediately, and it lets you jump straight into the quest. upon launching the game i see that there's an option to purchase the full game for $15.99, but it doesn't offer any indication of how far you can go before it'll make you pay.
it just seems like that for a platform that is built on a model of free to try, purchase extra content/the full game, there should be a system in place that is clear about what you're getting and not getting for every game.
― Z S, Saturday, 8 June 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link
the real killer for me is just that i have 3 hd inputs on my tv, a 360 a ps3 and a tivo.i don't like switching out cords. /first world etc
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 8 June 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
deception is a key component of F2P profitability
― Nhex, Saturday, 8 June 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
update on the n64 roms - as i should have known, it's more of an issue with the roms than anything to do with the ouya. the super mario 64 rom works very well (at least after 30 minutes or so).
― Z S, Saturday, 8 June 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
You know forks, decent and very cheap hdmi auto-splitters exist these days. I only recently picked one up but it CHANGED MY LIFE.
Anyway I finally got a tracking number for my ouya the other day, but DHL say it doesn't exist.
― JimD, Saturday, 8 June 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
Any MAME-type emus on there yet ZS?