GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

nothing about charlie was real or sad especially thats all i ever wanted to hear youre all i want sorry johnny i love you but that was some hipster clutch bullshit

... sorry i'm feeling extra something today don't mean to be a douche

no youre otm

¯\(°_0)/¯

xo

dayo, charlie don't surf

too soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MwjX4dG72s

I wish everyone would leave this show, tbh.

Sorry, I know I am doing Whiney-style thread trolling -- it just annoys me that much.

charlie only got interesting at the end of this season, but mostly he was a lame wet mop

dayo would be much better in this role imo

everyoe who likes this show watch The Comedy on netflix streaming its good

they should totally just recast him w/ donald glover and move on as though nothing happened.

cgi as a literal wet mop 2 appease u unfeeling monsters

that'd be cool

http://i.imgur.com/aR5rT9U.png

"a flare of originality"

charlie was a good character, i felt. i think they should have the cast alternate what roles they play... so like, one episode the guy who usually plays adam plays marnie, and zosia mamet plays jessa, etc, and then see how peoples' emotional attachments are affected, like if they are more attached to the characters or the actors, and if they can separate the two. it would make television history, and it would be an interesting thing for lena dunham to discuss in the after-show interviews. maybe christopher abbott would agree to come back if he was allowed to play hannah's dad.

n.b. i've always wanted to have a show where that happened. are there any pretexts for a similar idea, in the world of experimental film or something?

you're describing the show friends

lol

girls friends

in the season finale they could do like an accelerated version, where casting shifts mid-scene, and the characters don't have any identifying visual characteristics like costumes or something, you just need to be following the plot and using context clues to figure out who is who.

I have a lot of ideas like that I rec. that you don't say them out loud or tell people about them in any way

probably good advice. if i'm ever put at the helm of an HBO dramedy though... you know what to expect.

on a serious note, i think that charlie leaving will be good for the show -- much as i liked him -- because there won't be any more scenes in the office of his startup. never did the show seem so out of touch as those scenes. i feel like i could do without jessa too. the show is at its strongest when it is at its most naturalistic, even its darkest. i think that any form of glamor is just taking away from what lena does best.

i am holding out hope that they keep the character but we never see his face, all the shots are of the back of his head and his lines are all raggedly edited with the wrong ambient sound, clipped from outtake recordings and past shows. Then at the end of the season he is bludgeoned to death by a guy in a gorilla suit inside of a williamsburg club while dancing with marnie and the cellphone video goes viral and that's how marnie finally becomes a star

wait, you also got advanced scripts for next season?

n.b. i've always wanted to have a show where that happened. are there any pretexts for a similar idea, in the world of experimental film or something?

― everything i know about metal i learned from this website (Pat Finn), Friday, April 12, 2013 1:02 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

buñuel iirc

"Note: Poochie died on his way back to his home planet"

totally not feeling the last 3 eps of this season wtf

― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, March 29, 2013 2:22 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, total nosedive imo

no way the penultimate episode is the best episode of the series.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--0FL495H8E8/TstDRY0fTAI/AAAAAAAAAOs/2aJQioSoTFg/s640/deskset.jpg

penultimate episode sucked but the one preceding it was one of the best of the series

i liked the judy collins song playing in the end credits on that one.

I still don't like the OCD thing, it just reminds me of one 20-something friend who constantly talks about how she is bipolar. Number one it comes across as a way to indulge her ego, number two it's a gratuitous act of self-mythologizing (which i guess is what your 20s is all about), number 3 it's sort of a hipster flag of authenticity. All truly great artists are tortured souls. Hannah isn't just a spoiled woman too lazy to actually do any work, she is SUFFERING for her ART, she is TORTURED and trying to OVERCOME great odds. Puh-leeze.

eh, but the suffering isn't romanticized at all... it's presented in a pretty cringeworthy way... so i think it might actually undercut that old cliche of the suffering artist, and i think that might be the point of it all

omfg adam gtfo

omfg adam gtfo

― 乒乓, Friday, April 12, 2013 9:18 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Having shirtless ex-boyfriend racing through the streets to save her, break down her door, and cradle her in his arms is not romanticizing, ok.

i think that scene was kind of ironic, like adam and hannah are going through the motions of a cliched, borderline sexist romance narrative, even though it is clear that "coming together" is not enough to save them; they're indulging a fantasy, and i think that is indicated by the over-the-top music playing during that scene. i explained this position upthread. i don't think anyone agreed with me

ban adam bruneau

I agree w/ you, Pat Finn.

:-)

I still don't like the OCD thing, it just reminds me of one 20-something friend who constantly talks about how she is bipolar. Number one it comes across as a way to indulge her ego, number two it's a gratuitous act of self-mythologizing (which i guess is what your 20s is all about), number 3 it's sort of a hipster flag of authenticity. All truly great artists are tortured souls. Hannah isn't just a spoiled woman too lazy to actually do any work, she is SUFFERING for her ART, she is TORTURED and trying to OVERCOME great odds. Puh-leeze.

I think you're projecting way too much here and/or don't understand mental illness. It's hardly 'constantly talking' about it, considering how much it probably would have actually affected her young life, to just drop it into a couple episodes like that. And if she was romanticizing it she probably wouldn't have written her character to be a spoiled woman too lazy to work.

kinder put it about as nicely as you're gonna get AB.

yeah true fact: mental illness is not an affectation.

i was all 'uh oh' when the OCD thing started being foregrounded but, in fact, she nailed it and like many on this thread I speak from too much personal experience to be at risk of romanticizing. And if anything the grand finale you-have-saved-me is INCREDIBLY foreboding, like if she is having a full blown long lasting mega spike the last thing she needs is for him to babysit her in that way

yeah i couldn't agree more with that. from the show's sensitive, and knowing portrayal of OCD, it's clear that they can't be so naive as to believe adam could just swoop in and "save" her. the show, i think, and lena dunham, know what they are doing.

same goes for him (adam), he is dialing for destruction

totally