Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

carl agatha has a good understanding of the scriptwriting dynamic of early Enterprise right there

I stopped watching it when it originally aired because I couldn't cope with all that sexist claptrap. I mean, 7 of 9 was totally T&A fanservice but she was a great character with awesome backstory and a nice development arc and I don't recall her spending a lot of time in her underwear. When we eventually watched the whole show, I felt like the Tucker/T'Pol love interest sub plot offered some context for all of the decon gel massages happening, and T'Pol's character development (despite Jolene Blalock confusing "stoic" for "mumbling all her lines") gave her more depth, but it was still pretty bad.

But that was obviously a ploy to have somebody rub blue gel all over T'Pol's mostly naked body.

And Trip's mostly naked body.

Also, lol @ the Vulcan neuro pressure sessions because trip couldn't sleep. And T'Pol in her ridic pajamas.

I'm sure that made some people very happy.

http://mahlia.id.au/me/entandportraittattoos03.jpg

xp haha yes, her fucking mid-riff pajama tops. Wtf, T'Pol, those are not logical.

Half of his delivery is as stilted as a middle school thespian giving sincere, over enunciated first line readings of the drama club's fall production of Our Town.

Bakula was doing Dubya

That tattoo makes the Enterprise look like it was put in a microwave for 30 seconds

Have any of you watched the "Phase II" stuff?

reading about it now, that sounds kind of awesome!

never knew about the original 'phase ii' series that they were going to make in the '70s, kinda sorry they never filmed any of that.

How are the books? Still see tons of 'em, some by writers good in non-Trek contexts.

Watched a little bit of two of the Phase II episodes on Youtube. The acting and the way the dialogue was recorded are both kind of questionable, but the sets and effects are pretty cool and definitely look like The Original Series. Think some of the scripts were later adapted for The Next Generation.

They even put the old NBC peacock logo at the beginning as if it were 1966 all over again.

And short blackouts where the commercials would have gone.

As well as guest appearances by various actors who appeared in memorable roles in TOS.

How are the books? Still see tons of 'em, some by writers good in non-Trek contexts.

I love the relaunch novels so much - http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Relaunch_Novels_-_Timeline.

I skipped around at first (Destiny trilogy - amazing, and a couple about the Department of Temporal Investigations, which were fun) then started reading from the beginning (up to Hollow Men now) and I'm a huge fan.

Gonna send u questions some day

Me? Okay! I will answer them.

I remember reading in '77-78 that there was going to be a revived ST series, but had no idea things got so far along.

I think only two of these New Voyages scripts came from the original Phase II project the rest are new. They had an old Norman Spinrad script they tried to film but permission was yanked.

Watched this one last night, "Enemy: Starfleet!" and it was pretty good, featuring Kirk's girlfriend from "Mirror, Mirror" in a big role.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-ncYhAlbAw

Just watched this one, "World Enough And Time" and it was awesome. All kinds of classic TOS tropes touched on and a great big part for George Takei as Sulu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4TC5wl0IzE

OK, just tried to watch the animated series as well with all of the original cast except Walter Koenig, whose character was replaced by some kind of alien, but I couldn't get past the cheesy visuals, plus the music was all wrong, cop-show baritone sax stuff.

The guy who plays Kirk in New Voyages/Phase II who bought the TOS costumes and blueprints, built the sets and made it all happen is also an Elvis impersonator. He is basically some kind of alien himself from the Vic Tayback planet of copycats.

Which means he has done something else incredible- wait for it- he has met both D J and D C Fontana.

Episode with Walter Koenig reprising Chekhov not as good.

Best of Both Worlds screening tonight!

:D
:D

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Carl and I are waiting for it to start!

Now Jeff and I are waiting for them to fix the picture. :(((((((

We got 12 minutes in and the video hiccuped then went to a Dish Network screen. Now there is a packed theater full of restless Star Trek nerds waiting to see what happens next.

Also there's a lot of people in this theater who are way too casual about the frequency with which they launder their clothes.

Not me. Since you wash my clothes.

yipes i hope that doesnt happen to us!

They cancelled it. :( So bummed you guys.

They tried to give us vouchers for another movie! Vouchers! That is not of equal value. (I waited in line for a refund instead.)

That suuuuuucks!

wouldn'tve happened with reel film.

No, that specific thing would not have happened with reel film, that is 100% true.

a crime to watch tng off celluloid really

We saw this. After drinks. I appreciated the interviews and bloopers.

Ours worked...sorry Carl & Jeff that blows!

We left before the bloopers...I didnt care about that as much as the show itself which looked RAD

God help me I love the bloopers. It's embarrassing how hard they make me laugh. I blame early exposure to America's Funniest Home Videos.

This just means we'll need to pony up for the remastered season 3 DVDs ASAP. Then I can watch all the TNG whenever I want without having to smell somebody's dirty laundry. Hmph.

I'm glad this issue was limited to that stupid theater where we were, though!

psst carl check yr email

I did nothing is happening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i sent it via yr ilx email

It's like last night all over again.

Try carlagathaparty at gmail.

Netflix has made me into quite the budding TNG Trekkie - at the end of season three now. I see I am in good company.

xpost okay NOW check your email

I DID I GOT IT OMG

ffm, imo, Best of Both Worlds kicks is where the series really gets its bearings. There are some... interesting choices in S1 and 2, 3 gets better, and 4 is where it turns into an amazing show.

Also when you finish TNG, do check out DS9. VG will back me up on that one.

DS9 YESYESYES

but yeah, season 3 TNG and after is much better than the first 3 seasons

We're rewatching DS9 now for kicks, actually. So good. Benjamin Sisko is so amazing. I love how Avery Brooks plays him as such a weirdo sometimes. He's just weird enough that make him really believable and relatable. And sometimes hilarious.

(One ep in particular that we just watched is the one where a remnant of the Cardassian security system on the station thinks there's been a worker revolt and Sisko's response when SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT he averts the warp core breach is just perfect.)