Rolling 'this is sexist' thread

If she doesn't want to be famous, Culver might want to take a look at her relentless technosexuality, which more than hints at the acquisition of influence rather than intimacy as its goal.

I love how techno sexuality just links to another list of dudes she's dated.

Is it sexist to point this out? Perhaps, but not nearly as sexist as touting technical skills while sleeping your way to the top.

Everything about this article is truly disgusting.

relentless

it's really frustrating how the anti-adria-richards forces have managed to completely distort the facts of the case. i think it's been stated more than once on this thread that the two dudes were NOT having a private conversation that richards overheard (which, yes, would have been bad enough). she had turned around to talk to one of them and his friend (the guy who ultimately got fired) butted in with dongle jokes. she tried to redirect the conversation and he ignored her. that's when she got pissed.

I'm just glad that anonymous over at gawker had the courage to call this woman out on her sexism.

My understanding of the order of events based on both her the fired dude's words is that she was talking to one dude about dissatisfaction with a portion of the keynote talk and the guy who got fired butted in with the forking joke, which caused her to disengage; dude then went on to make the dongle jokes after she had bailed on the conversation (during the segment of the presentation when the speaker was talking about making tech more accessible/open to women).

So many words written about events that took place in less than two minutes

Big Time Technosexuality

straight-up bullshit because friends-of-friends in that scene help each other launch all kinds of crap all the time. But she's a woman, etc.

can I just otm this 6000 times over? the amount of backslapping, linking, retweeting, funding, plug-your-site-if-you'll-plug-mine, talk-at-your-conference-if-you'll-do-x-for-me that goes on between guys, and the second a woman is involved it's like "ohhh, geek slut everyone! look at the evil calculating bitch taking advantage with her mysterious woman ways which surely involve sex!"

(I think I've said before that I only realised years after dropping out of CS that all the guys were hanging out in each other's dorm rooms talking about assignments all the time, but the second a girl asks a question everyone says "look at that dumb bitch, fluttering her eyelashes so everyone else does her work for her" etc. and it doesn't seem to stop a decade after everyone's left university)

"forking joke"

What ultimately protects all these sexist shitheads is that they have specific technical skills that are in demand. If they are good enough coders someone will always hold their nose and hire them. This gives them a sense of protection, so they feel free to expose their vileness in public. They eventually believe that their coding skill and ability to find work proves their superiority and validates their stupidest ideas and beliefs.

P.S. Most of them are libertarians.

Wait was the guy who got fired Johnny dangerously?

aimless, that seems to apply to most intrinsic or specialised skills. i'm thinking about athletes.

also musicians, and bankers, and chefs, and lawyers, and businessmen, and suddenly it's starting to seem like this has nothing to do with "intrinsic or specialised skills"

I think most people are socially awkward when in situations outside of their normal sphere. It's just some people, through their personal lives or careers, have a wider range of social interaction.

who hires businessmen?

other businessmen

more loathsome businessmen

senior businessmen

Why was the other guy fired (obv why was aria fired too)

Why the other guy was fired:

http://blog.playhaven.com/addressing-pycon/

Briefly tossing in something new and unrelated here: http://gawker.com/5993482/university-billboard-celebrating-remarkable-women-features-three-grinning-guys

Thks, that covers both of em so?

omg Phil

l3ah c. was a notoriously notoriously incompetent person around tech. i hadn't seen those articles before, but i remember seeing links before the site was shut down where she was asking for help on her blog to do something like take the modulus of a number, but didn't know what that was or how to call it that and had come up with a terrible jury-rigged solution, and she was like 'lol, i'll learn to code some day guys!' there was also the story of a party where she sees someone's raid array and yells "oh, hot-swappable!" and before anyone can stop her, yanked out the drives, which were not at all 'hot-swappable' and caused this persons system to come to a screeching halt and destroyed lots of data that had to be restored from backups.

so the sexist stuff about her was not cool, but at the same point there was a general atmosphere of 'wtf how is this person the cto of a company'.

darraghmac, only one of the guys from playhaven was fired. adria richards was fired because she "divided the same community she was supposed to unite"...

the story of a party where she sees someone's raid array and yells "oh, hot-swappable!" and before anyone can stop her, yanked out the drives, which were not at all 'hot-swappable' and caused this persons system to come to a screeching halt and destroyed lots of data that had to be restored from backups.

OK this is amazing.

Her being fired is obv ludicrous, i just didnt want to be mentioning only the guy tbh

also musicians, and bankers, and chefs, and lawyers, and businessmen, and suddenly it's starting to seem like this has nothing to do with "intrinsic or specialised skills"
― relentless technosexuality (DJP), Wednesday, April 3, 2013

lmao at the "hot-swappable" story

she took the post down but it wasn't about modulus of a number, but rounding to the nearest half:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=104164

Wow, so is it common to know this much detail about project managers & developers?

lead dev/cto/founder of an internet startup that had some heat for a moment. lots of stories tended to fly around about ppl. like that during the web booms, especially when they were like active bloggers in social media, speaking at conferences, etc.

I dislike Lena Dunham, but this "won't anyone think of the men?!?" article still made me LOL: http://www.salon.com/2013/04/03/dunham_cant_write_men_partner/

jeez that's bad. looking forward to the entire internet devolving into a continual airing of grievances.

"looking forward"

I dislike Lena Dunham, but this "won't anyone think of the men?!?" article still made me LOL: http://www.salon.com/2013/04/03/dunham_cant_write_men_partner/

― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Wednesday, April 3, 2013 4:53 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what a bad, bad article. when I read stuff like this I think about the fact that people this shitty are making a living writing and then I remember that not really

it's just so depressingly typical. and now we're linking to it and talking about it. blegh.

so long as you say something suitably provocative enough to necessitate a response (and the internet is nothing if not an involuntary response machine for provocations) you win.

Lena Dunham should be able to write realistic men characters, such as Ricky Ricardo and Fred Mertz, and she should make them funny godammit.

i suppose it's not as depressing to see Salon sink to this stuff, unlike, say, what's become of the Atlantic.

I'm sure a jezebel blogger will respond, and then a male slate blogger will take a "middle ground" approach, and then gawker will do a smug, keeping a distance, not-taking-sides piece, and then a (surprise) male blogger will write for XX about how he actually does relate to the male characters.

not only is that article a screechingly sarcastic whinge but i'm now aware of salon's "popular on reddit" widget

yeesh

Why does Lena Dunham reduce men to walking hard-ons? Because dudes are "simple," as she tells Refinery29 in an interview published this week.

wow, writer reduces opposite sex to one-dimensional sex objects, I had certainly never encountered this until someone gave a woman some crayons

I mean I am totally stating the obvious to the point that I wasn't entirely sure if the whole article was a pisstake, but... it didn't seem to be

plus that's clearly not what Dunham said or meant!

relentless technosexuality (DJP)

curse you Dan I was this close from making my very first display name

tbf men are actually walking hard-ons

reduce men to walking hard-ons; remove from heat and fold in batter. Bake for 25 minutes at 375 and serve with creme fraiche

curse you Dan I was this close from making my very first display name

haha oops

all I keep thinking of is the PSB Relentless CD

http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201209/06/57/a0201157_141647.jpg

sry hueg