DEMON'S SOULS A GAME FOR SONY PLAYSTATION 3

I think this is fun? Maybe?

this interview with president of Sony's studios Shuhei Yoshida is kinda lol
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/02/10/shuhei-yoshida-interview.aspx?PostPageIndex=1

I feel one of Sony’s biggest software mistakes this generation was passing on publishing Demon’s Souls in North America and Europe.

Absolutely! Tell me about it! 100 percent agree!

How did it happen? Was it as simple as this game wasn’t going to sell? How involved were you?

For my personal experience with Demon’s Souls, when it was close to final I spent close to two hours playing it and after two hours I was still standing at the beginning at the game. I said, “This is crap. This is an unbelievably bad game.” So I put it aside.

Luckily, third party publishers, Atlus in North America and Namco in Europe [stepped in], and it really became a great hit outside of Japan.

We definitely dropped the ball from a publishing standpoint, including studio management side. We were not able to see the value of the product we were making.

yeah, ok, after sleeping on it, i am def down with the greatness of this game. at first (before i played it) all the "tough but fair" descriptions had the ring of lol noob defensiveness, but it really is accurate. its crazy to me that as a dude who gets fucking rageful when i have to do some platforming nonsense 15 times after i get the idea/trick and just want to get on with it that replaying the first world idk 8 times in a row last night NEVER got frustrating or boring, just more and more rewarding. also, the message mechanic is brilliant, and actually is like a salve for all the griefing bullshit in the gaming world (although yeah i know that can backfire, and we'll see what i think when some cock wanders in and pwns me for fun). still ruminating on some of the more interesting aspects of how the game is constructed (particularly the "throw you in and make you learn how to swim" vibe of hiding a lot of the item info in sub menus, never really explaining the guages but making them intuitive, deathtraps without warning, etc.) but yeah, the hype is totally legit.

a lot of the messaging stuff is griefing but of the "totally baffling" variety.

I really need to break this game back out; I loved it but at the time WoW was sucking up all my gaming time

i had my ass saved a bunch of times getting health spiffed from leaving a message in front of some crates hiding firebombs that said "valuable treasure ahead" and getting people to recommend it or whatever. its a great self-sustaining mechanic.

AND THEN I DIED

i am glad that i read some stuff online (and here) saying not to stress abt losing souls early on, i might have bailed if i thought i was fucked every time i didnt reach my bloodstain.

i ordered this the other day along w/ nba2k13 :)

nm i thought this was the dark souls thread

i gotta get in on this

you really do

dammit I wanna play this again right NOW but my parents are in town all weekend and staying with us

I suppose I could just give them the keys to the car and tell them to explore but it's the weekend of their 50th wedding anniversary so that might not go over well

YOU ARE A BAD SON

(with accompanying bassline/chaindrop effect)

http://demonssouls.wdfiles.com/local--files/enemies/mind-flayer.jpg

http://forums.demonssouls.info/images/ranks/Rank3-Fat-Official.png

are you playing this now?

yes. i am a glutton for punishment i guess

good man

how does it seem, going backwards from dark souls? i feel like it shouldn't seem obviously 'older' or lower-spec.

it is harder if anything. the world tendency stuff can really undo you. the game basically gets harder the worse you do, to a point. and without bonfires some of the levels can seem really long.

i'm still sort of early game which seems to be where main difficulty lies with the souls games. i don't think its that bad though since i've leveled up a bit but i've only beaten 4-5 bosses so far. combat is still the same except i think there's no jump. the archstone as respawn point takes some getting used to but it seems like most levels have shortcuts you can open up to ease the grind. the one thing that made me notice its age is some of the a.i. like ostrava strutting around like a robot. i don't rly pay attention to the tendencies but i also don't fully understand its workings.

one thing i've had trouble with in a few areas was lock-on targeting not working right

i had a good recent invasion u might like (dark souls tho - currently stuck inside the painting world). i get invaded in anor londo right before u make across the rafters. i peek outside the broken window and the guy is standing on the balcony. i bow and he looks like he's bowing but something is at his feet. he points down at it and i think oh he's giving me something but i stand where i am. he points at it again and sort of moves to the side. its obvious i'm sure but i'm a noob casul idiot and i go and pick it up and promptly get one-hit backstabbed back to the bonfire. u prob figured out by now what he dropped for me - an indictment :-)

^i've never played the game but i love this story

lol @ invasion, that is quality trolling

world tendency in demon's basically means that whenever you die in body form the mobs get harder, up to pure back tendency when you get additional souped-up black phantom enemies to contend with

that explains why it hasn't affected me yet. what is this "body form" u speak of ; )

currently the things i haven't been able to kill yet are red eye knights and red eye dual wielding skeletons. basically if its eyes are red i'm fucked. i found this games talking bird tho lol "gimme twinkly"

maneaters :(

oh-oh here they come

that whole level was a fucking disaster for me first time

the level itself was easy for me except stupidly trying to melee the prisoner horde, all 30 arms hacking me. i ended up cheesing the boss using arrows through the fog on the first one and even then the 2nd one killed me a bunch until i used full armor and warding

guessing thats a good level for soul farming?

the prime soul farm points are the start of 4-2 and 4-3. have you done those levels?

not yet, 4-2 is next up

4-1 is a good early farm particularly if you can one hit kill the skellies, they are worth a decent amount each. but without giving anything away, almost the first proper enemy you meet in 4-2 is good for iirc 7k souls and when you know what you're doing you can run in, kill, suicide and repeat in like 10 seconds per go

also, there is a 'trick' to 4-2, to one particularly hard part. i did a couple playthrus before finding out about it. i wouldn't necessarily encourage you to research beforehand, but if you are having any kind of hard time i would bear that in mind. it make a bitch of an area significantly easier.

also, i don't know if you have picked up on this, but bows are way more important and relevant in demons than dark. not entirely a tangent...

4-2 broke me, i give up, fuck this game.

i am not going to front, it gets worse still. 5-2 is...let's just say, fuck 5-2.

haha i posted that and then tried 10 more times and made it through. 5-2 does seem like its going to be painful

went through all the bosses except 1-3. the old monk fight was interesting in that if you're online it summons another player to be the boss. its lame that it lets that player heal and just becomes your average pvp bullshit so i beat that one offline

i thought that was a neat and pretty original idea in theory tho

its a great idea. i might put a summon down to see if i can get picked for it

dragon god was like a bed of chaos precursor

weird ending! fake allant had some nice moves.

the lore is so confusing. who is the old one and why does the maiden in black need to slumber with him

the old one is existential angst, the monumental is purpose, and the maiden is duty

or the old one is something vaguely bad that was asleep and got woken up and now is going back to sleep

so obviously you didn't kill the maiden. did you go back to 1-1 to fight old king doran?

no, ostrava didn't appear in 1-3 or 1-4 to give me the damn key and then suddenly hes a black phantom

well tbh alls you did is save yourself a headache there

just watched a vid of him. one gripe i have w/ this game is the armor is in general pretty shitty looking. like king doran looks like he's wearing jorts and just walked out of a deck of playing cards

speaking of armour, the user-submitted shields for dark souls 2 are p.good
http://www.destructoid.com/these-winning-community-made-dark-souls-ii-shields-rock-258343.phtml

ancient king's jorts 19 / 19 / 22.8 / 19

fluted denim