ILM's Now For Something Completely Different... 70s Album Poll Results! Top 100 Countdown! (Part 2)

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lol @ RS

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

haha i can get where aletti was coming from, i can imagine alot of r&b heads not being esp enthusiastic about funk getting psych rock in their soul.

balls, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

Aletti can go get fucked.

My #1 obviously.

xp

good placing and after winning the trax poll it mighta been a bit predictable if it won it

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

lol aletti did go get fucked quite a bit i suspect

balls, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

is the top 3 obvious to everyone or expecting any surprises...?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

Make your predictions!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

radiohead

Mordy, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

Maggot Brain the first Funkadelic album I heard and still easily my favorite (though I like Cosmic Slop a lot too). Like the way the shorter, catchier songs like Back In Our Minds, Hit It & Quit It, Can You Get To That etc sort of glue together the more 'woah!' moments like the title track and Wars of Armageddon.

Eamon Dool Two (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

just go ahead and post it, johnny moped band #1

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

notekillers and link wray's three track shack #2 and 3 obv

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

i think standing on the verge is my fave though free yr mind made a strong case the last time i listened to it

balls, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

3. CAN Tago Mago (5852 Points, 38 Votes, 1 #1)
RYM: #6 for 1971, #74 overall | Acclaimed: #220 | Pitchfork: #29

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Can burst free of its formalism on the double-album Tago Mago, kicking out the jams on the nearly structureless "Aumgn," seventeen minutes of texture and eerie mood. Other tracks feature long improvisations built around hypnotic rhythm patterns, backwards vocals, tape effects and other innovations. (Ironically, the LP's shortest track, the four-minute "Mushroom," has become something of a post-punk staple.) At this point, Can began making the albums that would wield enormous influence on '80s groups as diverse as the Fall, Einstürzende Neubauten and Zoviet France. -- Trouser Press

Next was the greatest of Can albums, the monumental double album TAGO MAGO, which, although starting on safe ground, draws the listener in with a succession of even greater weirdness and invention, not least "Aumgn" with Jaki's manic drums and "Peking O." where Damo lets out some of the most agonising vocal sounds amidst a plethora of electronic and percussive effects. Weird and radical innovation, that still sounds bizarre twenty odd years on!  -- Cosmic Egg

Krautrock, innit. The Mothership. Sometimes I think Ege Bamyasi may have the edge on this, other days the rolling power of the drums on "Hallelulwah" utterly seduces me. I remember Julian Cope taking a very purist line that by "Tago Mago" Can had burnt out, that the Malcom Mooney-era was the shit and that "Soundtracks" was their last great record, but really, what twaddle. -- Woebot, #2

As a young high school student growing up in Texas, I became aware of a group simply called Can. I was blown away by the sound, the guitar experimentations, and the avant-garde days of early hip-hop meets New Wave of the 21st century. That and their third album with their first collaboration with japanese singer they found in the streets of Hamburg, Damo Suzuki who made his first appearance on the Soundtracks album and then the first time singing with the band on here, it remains the perfect teamwork they pulled together to create a fucking masterpiece that would have made Johnny Rotten so goddamn happy. Tago Mago remains a favorite of mine in my taste of experimental music on my iPod and it still is to this day. It's not just an album, its an experimental ride that you can't get off and it goes off like a machine gun that bleeds for blood.

It starts off with the ambient spacey ballad jam session 7-minute suite, Paperhouse. It begins as a dance tune from the sounds of the late Michael Karoli's virtuoso guitar work while Jaki Liebezeit's drum pattern follows the guitar and Irmin Schmidt's electric piano styling and in 4/4 and 3/4. Then all of a sudden it becomes psychedelic freak-out that almost comes out of the Velvet Underground's first album as Damo sings quietly like an evil psychopath that hunts for its prey. Holger Czukay's bass line just goes up and down as he and Karoli's guitar work goes off the wall. And then goes back to the ballad again in the same time signature as it segues into the sinister proto sinister nuclear war hip-hop rocker Mushroom, which deals with a total annihilation. This time the band go evil as any Krautrock band could get into pasaging trouble than Faust. Jaki's drums starts off like a war-like gun that won't go off while Damo sings 'When I saw Mushroom head, I was born and I was dead' and then screaming 'I'm Gonna Get My Despair!' four times, it sounds so powerful and it gave me goosebumps hearing this song to set the scenery of a post-apocalyptic land of hell as it goes into Oh Yeah with a bomb going off and then becoming a free-for-all composition. With Holger's bass lines that become funky while Damo singing japanese backwards and Irmin's keyboards sounding like a horror soundtrack from the 1930's while Irmin is pounding the drums like a motherfucker with the bass, hi-hat, and snare as they do a jam session that would have made the Grateful Dead bow down on their knees over to the new masters of gods. 

The next track which almost sounded very Bitches Brew meets A Tribute to Jack Johnson in an avant-garde way with the 18-minute composition Halleluhwah as Holger takes over with fusion bass line which almost could have been on any Funkadelic album that would have make Bootsy Collins proud over and sounding like a James Brown record that had gone awkward and strange as the synths come in to make it more bizarre as the drums go electronic while they go into the boxing ring to duke it out like big macho instruments battling to the death of drums vs. synths over who would win and who would be crowned champions. Aumgn which starts off as a reprise from Paperhouse left off as the 17-minute synth music of Tangerine Dream going wrong in an omish andy warhol homage that would have the Monks run like motherfuckers from Jaan's keyboards and Damo's screeching voice filling up the album that would be perfect for Ridley Scott's Alien. And then the last 5-minutes it becomes an African samba gone haywire as Irmin takes over to close it up to a dramatic climax that makes you jump in fear. And then it becomes an Atmospheric funeral arrangment turned into a darker rock technique of Kraftwerk's debut album in a mystrious cave for once again the Avant-Garde of 11-minutes that would get Stravinsky and Edgard Varese happy for joy on Peking O.

The acoustic jazz fusion crooner Bring Me Coffee or Tea closes it up as Damo sings very stonish as he and the band go off like masterminds as it ends with a T. All in all, Tago Mago remains strange, mysterious, whatever you want to call it, this is a must have for anyone who wants to get into the music of CAN.  -- Zmnathanson, Head Heritage

In his seminal work on Kosmische, Krautrocksampler, Julian Cope writes that Can's Tago Mago "sounds only like itself, like no-one before or after". 40 years on from the album's initial release, it's an observation that still holds true. There have been many bands who have attempted to recreate the heady, woozy, dark whirl of rhythms invoked on Tago Mago -- from Public Image Limited to The Horrors -- yet none of them have ever managed to truly capture the combination of the sinister and the sublime that have made it such a modern classic.

I discovered Tago Mago in 2002 at a friend's house party, when I heard the strains of 'Mushroom' emanating in waves through the miasma of marijuana smoke and stale beer fumes. I was 19, just about to enter my second year of University, and had a spent a year in a tiny room in Camden wearing a duffle coat and listening to weedy, poorly-recorded C86 records on an old Dansette I'd purchased with my student loan. To say that it came as a bit of a revelation to my cloth ears would be an understatement.

There is this brilliant, creeping sense of unease that permeates 'Mushroom', from Damo Suzuki's overwraught vocals to Jaki Liebezeit's unrelenting, driving beat (a drumbeat which, over the years, I have played to many people -- usually while drunk -- demanding that they listen to it, just listen to it). The next day, I went into a record shop, bought the album on vinyl and played it over and over again, drinking in each of the rhythms and cursing the fact that my larger than average chest size meant that I'd never be able to become a drummer. To drum like Jaki would have meant investing in a bra that was more a minor feat of engineering that a piece of underwear.

It's not just the music that makes Tago Mago so exciting as much as who Can were when they recorded it; a bunch of experimental West German hippies who delighted in the strange. The album was recorded in Schloss Nörvenich, a castle near Cologne owned by an eccentric art collector. Can spent a year living and recording there, and would spend their days playing long, disorganised jams (more streams of musical consciousness than actual songs) that their bassist, Holger Czukay, would then splice into songs.

It's this recording process that has provided Tago Mago with its signature sound - long, uninterrupted series of rhythms, all punctuated with tape-loops, analogue synths, and primitive drum machines, providing it with an intensely stoned, woozy feel. Even the more 'difficult' tracks on Tago Mago, such as the echoed drone of 'Aumgm' (which, to modern ears, sounds like a precursor to some of the material later recorded by bands like Sunn 0))) and Boris) and the Hari Krishna-esque 'Peking O' show a band who thrilled in experimentation and playing with the limits of noise and technology.

Tago Mago shows Can at the height of their powers. Whilst their sound became more polished and poppy as they progressed through the 1970s (even earning them a minor UK chart hit with 1976's 'I Want More'), it still remains arguably their finest work. Over the years, it has become an album I've carted around with me everywhere I go -- and have been forced to replace numerous times after lending it to ex-partners and leaving copies of it at house parties. I've yet to find another album that makes me wish I could turn back time and live in its world -- in this case jamming with four German blokes for long days in a castle. And I've yet to find another album which contains drum patterns that make my bones shiver in delight. When it comes to Kosmische classics, this is an essential. If you don't have this in your record collection, you're doing yourself a massive disservice. -- Cay McDermott, The Quietus

Can have long been one of those bands that are more talked about than heard. They were enormously influential on certain kinds of forward-thinking rock artists (their fingerprints are all over Radiohead and the Flaming Lips, not to mention more more recent underground acts like Woods and Implodes); their records have never been out of print for long. But they've got a big, disorderly discography, and they don't really have any signature songs (the Can tracks that pass for pop-- "Spoon", "I Want More", and not many others-- are alarmingly unlike the rest of their work). They're also tougher to "get" than a lot of their contemporaries: They specialized in long, jam-heavy rock grooves, and they had (two different) aggressively difficult vocalists, as well as a guitarist (the late Michael Karoli) who liked to noodle way up in the treble range. So where do you start?

You couldn't do much better than beginning with 1971's Tago Mago, freshly reissued in a "40th Anniversary Edition" (whose main difference from previous editions is the addition of a live disc from the following year). It's a colossus of an album, the product of a band that was thinking huge, pushing itself to its limits, and devoted to breaking open its own understanding of what rock music could be. The core of Can was four German musicians from wildly different backgrounds-- when they initially came together in 1968, two of them had studied with composer Karlheinz Stockhausen, one had played jazz, and one was a teenage guitar whiz. They recorded soundtrack music and a few straightforward rock songs early on, but what they were really interested in doing was going beyond kinds of music for which they had language.

For some musicians of that time, that meant replacing (or augmenting) composition with improvisation: letting the unconscious mind take over in the instant, and recording the results. Can's insight was that jamming alone wasn't going to do the trick. One of their solutions to that problem was that, like Miles Davis' electric group at the time, they were not a jam band but a jam-and-edit band. Their working method involved collectively improvising on little riffs and grooves at enormous length, but that's not quite what you hear on Tago Mago. Bassist Holger Czukay chopped up, layered and extensively reorganized pieces of their recordings (including recordings they made when they didn't think the tape was rolling), imposing afterthought on instinct to create something as densely packed as composition but distinctly different.

Their other solution was smashing the crutch of language. After Can's original singer Malcolm Mooney had left the band in 1970, they'd encountered a Japanese street artist named Damo Suzuki "singing or 'praying' in the streets of Munich" (as Czukay put it) and immediately installed him as their new frontman. Suzuki is ostensibly vocalizing in English-- the lingua franca of rock-- but English that's either seriously mangled or almost totally faked.

Tago Mago is seven songs in 73 minutes; the first half is big-beat floor-fillers, the second half yanks the floor away. For those first four songs, drummer Jaki Liebezeit is the star of the band, setting up rhythmic patterns of his own devising (isolate his part of almost any Can song, and you'd immediately know what you were listening to) and repeating them like mantras. His drumming is actually the lead instrument on "Mushroom", which could very easily pass for a post-punk classic from 10 years later; everything else just adds a little tone color. (The song might be about a psychedelic mushroom, or a mushroom cloud, or maybe just the kind that comes in a can.) And his deliberate, crisply articulated marching-band-of-the-unconscious beat is the spine of the overwhelming "Halleluwah", possibly the only 18-minute song that would be too short at twice its length.

Then the trip turns sour and trembly. "Aumgn" is almost as long as "Halleluwah" but clammy, deliberately disjointed, and nearly rhythmless; its central sound is keyboardist Irmin Schmidt's repeatedly intoning elongated, mangled variations on the meditative "om." Both "Aumgn" and its follow-up "Peking O" mess with their listeners' perception of time-- everything in them happens much more quickly or slowly than it's supposed to, and as soon as any pattern of sound has stuck around long enough to grab onto, it shudders and evaporates. By the time the dreamy, softly throbbing one-chord piece "Bring Me Coffee or Tea" arrives to conclude the album, it's almost hard to trust it not to be a mirage.
The bonus for the new edition (aside from a reproduction of the original sleeve, with four variations on a semi-abstract image concerning the mouth and the mind) is a three-song 1972 live recording: something identified as "Mushroom" that shares nothing but a couple of lines with the Tago Mago version, a "Halleluwah" that fades out after nine minutes without generating the studio recording's heat, and a half-hour workout on the band's three-minute German hit "Spoon". It's okay-- they were a solid jam band, and Liebezeit could pull off those remarkable rhythms on stage, too-- but it's mostly interesting for its perspective on how much less a band Can might have been without Czukay's keen razor blade slashing away their excesses and preserving their flashes of revelation. -- Douglas Wolk, Pitchfork

“The castle discovered with the excavation rectangular four bay window towers was 25 metres about 11 times and had a kennel offshore to the north.” (Make allowances: it’s a German-English translation website.) “Werner von Vlatten, a clerk between 1366 and 1394, might have inhabited them. His son Wilhelm, after a division, owned the castle.” (Here comes the relevant bit.) “In 1968--9 the rock group Can furnished their studio here.” (The quintet based themselves at the castle for three years, before relocating to a disused cinema at Weilerswist.)

The castle -- Schloss Nörvenich in North Rhine-Westphalia -- was where Tago Mago, surely Krautrock’s greatest double album, was recorded over several months in 1971. It’s a record with a powerful reputation, and not just because it inspired bands like Radiohead and PiL. Links with Satanism and witchcraft have been suggested over the years; we’ve read of Can learning “forbidden rhythms” from West Africa, and having a fascination with Aleister Crowley. Irmin Schmidt’s grim bellow on “Aumgn”, as he intones as if from a coffin, is as chilling as rock vocals get, akin to an encounter with a cloven-hoofed goat-creature. The word ‘aumgn’ is derived from Om (or Aum), the sacred incantation in Hinduism and Buddhism, but it was also, according to his disciples, “Crowley’s ultimate word of power” -- the word he believed would enable him to rule the planet by magick. Schmidt stretches out the two syllables (‘aum-gn’) for 20 or 30 seconds at a time, while a violin saws away and a double bass circles menacingly like the Jaws theme. The music loses all inhibition, building orgiastically to a frenzy.

The rhythms on Tago Mago; they get into your eyeballs. When drummer Jaki Liebezeit first invented the hypnotic beat that became the foundation for “Halleluhwah”, it caused such a strong reaction in guitarist Michael Karoli that he began hallucinating. He begged Liebezeit to keep playing it, and we can empathise; it’s a groove that seems to suck our minds into its sorcerous clutches. Liebezeit, one of the acknowledged masters of the drums, could create these mesmerising patterns at will. On “Mushroom” we hear him judging the weight of his foot-pedal like a chemist measuring drops of liquid from a beaker to a flask. On “Paperhouse”, he sensually tickles the drowsy 6/8 beat in the opening bars, only to beat his drums and cymbals viciously when Karoli leads the charge into squealing acid-rock. At times, Can reveal a technical expertise on a par with prog-rockers like King Crimson, but Can always placed technique second to the communal responsibilities of improvisation. Schmidt, for example, would take his hands off his keyboards if he felt he had nothing to add. The music on Tago Mago was derived not from songwriting but from extensive jamming at the castle, which bassist Holger Czukay edited down into shorter pieces. Not too short, though. Even abridged, “Aumgn” lasts more than 17 minutes, and “Halleluhwah” runs to 18-and-a-half.

It’s a fool’s errand to try to describe the styles and genres that Can touch on here; suffice to say that if there were an HMV category called Shockingly Beautiful And Pulsatingly Thunderous Space-Jazz-Concrète, Tago Mago would be at the front of the racks every time. Invoking and evoking just about all the spontaneity and scariness that you’d want from rock’n’roll, Tago Mago can offer experiences as spellbinding as the sequence that originally comprised side one (“Paperhouse”, “Mushroom”, “Oh Yeah”), or can be so extreme that you feel yourself under attack by maniacs. Not everyone, certainly, will carry a torch for “Peking O”, an 11-minute detour into drum-machine lunacy and babbling nonsense. Then again, “Peking O” is followed by its polar opposite, “Bring Me Coffee Or Tea”, a weird folky lullaby in the same ballpark as “Willow’s Song” in The Wicker Man. You learn to expect the unexpected with Tago Mago. Just as you think you’ve got a handle on “Mushroom” -- singer Damo Suzuki must be describing a psilocybin trip when he speaks of being “born” and “dead” when he sees the “mushroom head” -- something about his odd phrase “my despair” nags at you. Mushrooms? Despair? Then you remember that Suzuki was a child of 1950s Japan, when the country was rebuilding itself after the mushroom clouds of 1945. Dark riddles, occult practices, atom bombs. Perhaps, as some have suggested, this was the preferred reality -- the only reality -- for four Germans and one Japanese born either side of World War II.

To mark its 40th anniversary, Tago Mago (which, like all Can’s early albums, was remastered in 2004), is being reissued with a bonus CD of live material from a Cologne gig in June 1972. Previously available on the bootleg, Free Concert, the tracks are “Mushroom”, “Spoon”, “Bring Me Coffee Or Tea” and “Halleluhwah”. The recording is in mono and the sound quality is passable, but not great. “Spoon”, all 20 minutes of it, has a dramatic performance from Suzuki as it nears its climax: first he starts urging “you gotta love me”, then he starts screaming it, at which point the momentum is halted by Karoli’s feedback and the music is hesitantly reshaped into “… Coffee Or Tea”. “Halleluhwah” is surprisingly laid back to begin with, but as funky as The Meters, with Liebezeit in mind-boggling octopoid form as usual. Schmidt organ-solos like a man demented as the track fades.

In 1989, I got a chance to ask Can about Tago Mago. Karoli, a lovely man, sat next to me in the restaurant, enthusing about Liebezeit and explaining that Suzuki sings “searching for my black dope” in “Halleluhwah” -- “because he’d lost it, you know”. Schmidt, a grumpy intellectual, told me that Can had revealed their ‘secrets’ only once, to a journalist in 1975, and she’d phoned up in a panic because that part of her cassette was inexplicably blank. We went back to a house in Notting Hill where Schmidt groped his wife on the settee all night, and Karoli bopped to Chic records. An unassuming guitar hero, he died in 2001. -- David Cavanagh, Uncut


review
[-] by Ned Raggett

With the band in full artistic flower and Suzuki's sometimes moody, sometimes frenetic speak/sing/shrieking in full effect, Can released not merely one of the best Krautrock albums of all time, but one of the best albums ever, period. Tago Mago is that rarity of the early '70s, a double album without a wasted note, ranging from sweetly gentle float to full-on monster grooves. "Paperhouse" starts things brilliantly, beginning with a low-key chime and beat, before amping up into a rumbling roll in the midsection, then calming down again before one last blast. Both "Mushroom" and "Oh Yeah," the latter with Schmidt filling out the quicker pace with nicely spooky keyboards, continue the fine vibe. After that, though, come the huge highlights -- three long examples of Can at its absolute best. "Halleluwah" -- featuring the Liebezeit/Czukay rhythm section pounding out a monster trance/funk beat; Karoli's and Schmidt's always impressive fills and leads; and Suzuki's slow-building ranting above everything -- is 19 minutes of pure genius. The near-rhythmless flow of "Aumgn" is equally mind-blowing, with swaths of sound from all the members floating from speaker to speaker in an ever-evolving wash, leading up to a final jam. "Peking O" continues that same sort of feeling, but with a touch more focus, throwing in everything from Chinese-inspired melodies and jazzy piano breaks to cheap organ rhythm boxes and near babbling from Suzuki along the way. "Bring Me Coffee or Tea" wraps things up as a fine, fun little coda to a landmark record.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

has sabbath's vol 4 popped up yet?

balls, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

Nope

today's tom soy yum, mean mean thai (Spectrist), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

75 #1?

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

I think 'naut

xpost!

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

tbh I though Tago would take #1, now I'm kinda stoked to see vol 4 duke it out with ******

today's tom soy yum, mean mean thai (Spectrist), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

wins, 75 placed in the teens

today's tom soy yum, mean mean thai (Spectrist), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

well shut my mouth pt 2

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

was there chat about it? That album is great! how did I miss it?

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

Love Tago Mago to bits and voted for it, but think Soon Over Babaluma might have currently replaced it as my favorite Can album.

Eamon Dool Two (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

I love the album art with the brain slice. This is your brain on Can.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

lets see who can get the correct placing of 1 & 2 before I post it in a wee while

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

1 graham parker 2 joe jackson

balls, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

Thought that would get more comments.

someone go search Kitchen Person is ok ;)

― Algerian Goalkeeper,

I'm here! Yeah that Devo album is absolute perfection and should have been way higher. Eno's production is incredible, one of his best production jobs. I like the second album even more, for some reason it wasn't nominated though. Modern Lovers should have been higher too, was hoping some way that and Devo would make the top twenty at least.

I've no idea why Free Your Mind is rated that highly, it's my least favourite of all the 70's Funkadelic albums. I've just never been able to get into it the same way as all the others. I'm much more of a Parliament fan overall but Standing on the Verge of Getting it on is my favourite P Funk album ever.

Here Come The Warm Jets is yet another perfect album on the list. I've listened to it a hundred times and I always hear something new whenever I play it. Wish it could have squeezed into the top ten. Suprised it beat all the Roxy Music albums but I guess he didn't suffer from split voting the same way.

I had a feeling Marquee Moon wouldn't be at number one, I would have been happy with that result. I thought Maggot Brain and Riot would be contenders too.

Disappointed that Tago Mago is the highest Can album, it's a good album but for me the three that came after it are in a different league.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

if youre gonna joke at least make fake entries with pics you lazy bastard!
xp

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

Here Come The Warm Jets is yet another perfect album on the list. I've listened to it a hundred times and I always hear something new whenever I play it. Wish it could have squeezed into the top ten.

man I could write a book about how great this album is. Well, if I could write or knew anything about music I could. Maybe a blog. "on some faraway beach"! beautiful

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

PREDICTION:

#2: Black Sabbath Vol. 4

#1: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517aK6vX8DL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

pretty sure here come the warm jets was my #3 after fun house and paranoid

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

for a while I toyed with *not* voting for fun house and paranoid

why because predictable but those albums are the twin towers of rock for me so

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

xpost Warm Jets was also my number three behind the Roxy Music debut and Curtis.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

this isn't something I do very often or would recommend but fripp's solo in baby's on fire is nuts on ketamine

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

EIII, I also did some strategic voting, leaving ones I knew were going to do well like Joy Division, Television and other post-punk toward the bottom of my ballot, but I had to vote high for my favorite Stooges and Sabbath (Master of Reality in my case).

I think Cope overrates his contribution to musical knowledge. He often behaves as if he really was the first person to discover a lot of these bands. Also, while I think Krautrocksampler is a great little book, I disagree with a lot of his assessments.

Fair enough. But it's hard to say what he thinks about his own importance. I disagree with him also on lots of stuff, but just love his enthusiasm. His reviews/summaries may not be revelations, but he did promote Kosmische and later, Japanese rock to wider audiences.

I love both Teardrop Explodes albums, and enjoy his first three solo albums, even though Saint Julian is a bit AOR-ish, has some good tunes. The double disc reissue has some fun covers, like Pere Ubu's "Non-Alignment Pact."

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

But it's hard to say what he thinks about his own importance.

Oh, my opinion here is based on quotes I've seen from him. But I can't be arsed to try to remember them verbatim in order to google them, sorry.

emil.y, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

No need, though if anyone comes across a deliciously ridiculous Cope quote, please share!

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

WE DID IT, SATORI #1!!!!!

wk, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

haha!

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

haha

balls, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

That would be a cool collaboration, Eno and Ohio Players. Taking Eno's warm jets pun to it's full . . . conclusion, they could title it "Money" with a model being splashed with heavy cream or something.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

We need to poll Climax vs Fly to the Rainbow vs Monkey Grip

today's tom soy yum, mean mean thai (Spectrist), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

2. BLACK SABBATH Vol. 4 (6320 Points, 37 Votes, 2 #1s)
RYM: #14 for 1972, #263 overall | Acclaimed: #846

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http://open.spotify.com/album/5xuKMGSgKISSQQxLtADJxj
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Fourth philosophical shift in four albums, establishing an obstinate lack of pattern that will continue to at least the end of the wild Ozzy years, Vol 4 offers more songs and wider reign, an ever so slightly brighter sound, and yet another form of recording so hopelessly torn open by the all-encompassing presence of Iommi's bank of amplifiers (guitar was too small a word). The cover of Vol 4 graced my very first rock T, and at its stark lurid nothingness, lies the heat of this record's delivery, a decidedly shaggy, overwhelmed scattering of vibrations dominated by Iommi but personified by Ward's bashing struggles against suffocation by guitar. Less driven by grooves than crashing cacophonies of cymbals and war drums, kidney-pounders like "Tomorrow's Dream," "Supernaut" and "Cornucopia" signaled a monster out of control, in essence, the band headbanging in the retina-detaching, stupid-making, suicidal form of the word. Thriving voraciously under a mountain of drugs by this point, the band was barreling along off-the-rails to the stunned soul-searching and uneasy delight of the throngs of listeners in its crooked path, Sabbath recording the record in an L.A. haze, an eternity from their home base both geographically and psychologically, no Roger Bain to guide the process, money slipping through their hands like dust off a butterfly's wings. Consequently, Vol 4 is the scrappiest, most wickedly bashing Sabbath of them all, considered a bit of a confused black hole by many fans, impermeable, not so willing to cough up hits. 10/10 -- M. Popoff

As the Sabs poured into "Wheels of Confusion" like giant gobs of wet cement gushing from the heavens in the never-ending sameness of a taffy-pull performed by mutants, people began pouring into my house. One by one they instantly began digging the Sabs, nodding, heavy dudes one and all. Everyone picked up that old Sab neck-wobble trip where your head sort of rocks back and forth on your neck python-fash, right? Where the organ comes in over the big slow power chords; no it's not an organ, call it a component, yah, straight out of the Middle fucking Ages! Sorta walks right on out. Like some giant prehistoric plant learning how to walk ... right over your house ... so boogie while you can. But you can't lose that dyno chthonic zoomout riff 'cos it's right there in the middle of the next song, "Tomorrow's Dream," which got us so zonked we felt absolutely heavy. The cat did too. Then on into a foxy sorta Carole King piano folk song or something, whew, "Changes," kind of David Bowie we guessed, hey orchestra right? What? Went its evil way? Ooh. The room got kind of deep and spacey, brown all over, and the notes then sounded sorta while coming out of that ... y'know? Like a snowfall? It went on forever. We could dig it. Like we dig chewing gum made out of caulking compound. Right? So then can you conceive of a piercing tone followed by reverberating percussion noises called "FX," huh, that was the next tune, then we got tight with some heavy familiar Sab vibes again, swimming right up there to deep space where nothing hears or talks, right? "Supernaut." My sister had a vision of electronic buffalo ranches on Uranus, so help me. The drum solo in this song did it to her. Also, my watch stopped. But the Sabs didn't. Who needs a watch? I ripped it off my wrist & stomped on it. Slowly. Crunch. Side one groaned to a close, but soon side two followed it, without delay adhering to the walls of one's septum — the total "icicles in my brain" riff — right — "Snowblind," no less — climbing those big staircases made out of vanilla fudge, right up into your mind — so feed your nose, hey? God's a Fuzz Tone, right? The Abominable Snowman? Hey. La Fucking Brea! The tar pits was a heavy scene, right? Ask Freud or Dave Crosby. What a streaming feast of nerve gobble anyhow! But on with the snow, I mean show. Time for a Pez break. Whew. Monster slowness of the unelusive strikes again: "Cornucopia." I about fell out. Ten-ton dogs snarled in the mouth of the volcano. Storms of liquid metal blasted their way into the soap factory. Soaring zoos, etc. Then on to babies' time; breakfast on a sleigh in Hawaii with violins, titled "Laguna Sunrise." All sweet lime stripes across a popsicle spiced with Quaaludes, right. A million artichokes can't be wrong. Dreaming in the sun with their eyes open? Sweet music must end. Grunting, we tumble on into the new dance craze, you guessed it, "St. Vitus Dance." You drive me nervous. Pieces of hair got into my mouth during this one. Same old power saw on Venus move, lovely. "Under the Sun" starts out slow, like dinosaurs yawning, then it speeds up a little. Or does it? I can't tell. Fantastic four-second guitar solo by a gorilla in there somewhere, right — beautiful — gorilla! The Sabs pour it on, man, it's right near the end of the record now and here's a great three-second drum solo by a polar bear, no shit! Put mud in my ears if I lie! I can dig it! Great buncha chords there too, I couldna chose better myself, whew, we're thudding down toward the ultimate rip chord now. Gotcha. Over and out. Molten rocks hurtling across space imitating the origin of the universe, you dig? Ah, lay those chord slabs on my grave ... whew. The Sabs are genius. -- Tom Clark, RS

Black Sabbath at their best have been perhaps the all-time ultimate rock and roll noise -- their music has relentlessly developed upon the idea the early Who were getting at, that mystical moment when the music takes off and just becomes pure sound. That, indeed is where Sabbath have made their basic stand: sound.

And that's where the one big dissapointment with Black Sabbath Vol. 4 lies -- the sound itself. For some inexplicable reason, Black Sabbath saw fit to record Vol. 4 without their previous production/engineering team of Rodger Bain and Tony Allom, a move that has to be one of the biggest mistakes in recent rock history.

As a result, Vol. 4 is the most conventional sounding of any Black Sabbath album to date, lacking entirely the furious slab-thick bass sound which reached its apex on Master of Reality. Large stretches of Vol. 4 sound a lot like Led Zeppelin, in fact -- which is great, but not Sabbath's main turf.

But the engineering deficiencies of the album are largely compensated for by a stunning new development: Black Sabbath playing at fast tempos! Around 5 of the 7 rockers on the LP feature Sabbath simply revving up a a pace previously unknown! The mind boggles. "Supernaut" is the real standout, one of Sabbath's two or three best tracks ever... to hear this song on AM radio would be the greatest thing since Uriah Heep's "Easy Livin.'" The remaining tracks are for the most part also very good, and "Cornucopia" is an effective slow workout more in the old Sabbath mold.

Black Sabbath's songwriting has changed a lot with Vol. 4. Musically, the group's material is more diffuse and less monomanically vicious -- fewer pulverizing riffs this time out. The music nevertheless still shines, but thematically the songs just don't stand out as they have in the past (who can ever forget "War Pigs," "Hand of Doom," or "Into the Void"? Whether, as one non-convert put it, you want to or not!).

So Black Sabbath Vol. 4 is both a confusing and an exciting album. Good but not great. In the long run Vol. 4 may be a more durable effort than Paranoid, but the two are so dissimilar I hesitate to ignore them. And it's still impossible to tell whether the comparative lack of fire here is due to inferior engineering, or to a decreasing savagery in Sabbath's playing. Considering how "Under the Sun" (the album's least successful hard rock number) is almost wiped off the board by thin recording, the former seems more probable at this point in time.

But Black Sabbath merely going through the motions still shuts down 99% of today's rock. -- Mike Saunders, Phonograph Record

Long before Black Sabbath broke down as a result of drug-fueled infighting, there was a brief period of drug-fueled sludge-metal genius. The proof -- ...Vol. 4.

The band have long said the writing and recording of the album coincided with their most hedonistic and substance-heavy period, after their label transplanted the four Brits to California to record the album. The record's original title, Snowblind, was nixed by label execs for its obvious reference to cocaine.

The negative consequences of their decadence would be heard at the end of the decade, when the band descended into Spinal Tap versions of their early selves. But ...Vol. 4 was before the burnout and bloat and the songs were still riff-packed, rough, and heavy -- or, as Rolling Stone put it, "slabs of liquid metal."

Because of the lack of an anthemic single, ...Vol. 4. is often overlooked. There is no track to rival the popularity of "Paranoid" and "Sweet Leaf"; only "Snowblind" gets the odd nod on radio these days. Rather, the album's strengths lie in the songs' confident, heavy crunch and in small touches of experimentation. The band dabble with psychedelic overdubs ("The Straightener"), live strings ("Laguna Sunrise"), and even a mellow side -- the slow piano ballad "Changes," which makes for an odd addition to this collection. But unlike the band's later albums, the meat of this record stays true to the band's original dark and heavy roots. It was with Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and all that followed that the Sabs' trademark sound began to slip away from them. -- Jason Chow, 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die


review
[-] by Steve Huey

Vol. 4 is the point in Black Sabbath's career where the band's legendary drug consumption really starts to make itself felt. And it isn't just in the lyrics, most of which are about the blurry line between reality and illusion. Vol. 4 has all the messiness of a heavy metal Exile on Main St., and if it lacks that album's overall diversity, it does find Sabbath at their most musically varied, pushing to experiment amidst the drug-addled murk. As a result, there are some puzzling choices made here (not least of which is the inclusion of "FX"), and the album often contradicts itself. Ozzy Osbourne's wail is becoming more powerful here, taking greater independence from Tony Iommi's guitar riffs, yet his vocals are processed into a nearly textural element on much of side two. Parts of Vol. 4 are as ultra-heavy as Master of Reality, yet the band also takes its most blatant shots at accessibility to date -- and then undercuts that very intent. The effectively concise "Tomorrow's Dream" has a chorus that could almost be called radio-ready, were it not for the fact that it only appears once in the entire song. "St. Vitus Dance" is surprisingly upbeat, yet the distant-sounding vocals don't really register. The notorious piano-and-Mellotron ballad "Changes" ultimately fails not because of its change-of-pace mood, but more for a raft of the most horrendously clichéd rhymes this side of "moon-June." Even the crushing "Supernaut" -- perhaps the heaviest single track in the Sabbath catalog -- sticks a funky, almost danceable acoustic breakdown smack in the middle. Besides "Supernaut," the core of Vol. 4 lies in the midtempo cocaine ode "Snowblind," which was originally slated to be the album's title track until the record company got cold feet, and the multi-sectioned prog-leaning opener, "Wheels of Confusion." The latter is one of Iommi's most complex and impressive compositions, varying not only riffs but textures throughout its eight minutes. Many doom and stoner metal aficionados prize the second side of the album, where Osbourne's vocals gradually fade further and further away into the murk, and Iommi's guitar assumes center stage. The underrated "Cornucopia" strikes a better balance of those elements, but by the time "Under the Sun" closes the album, the lyrics are mostly lost under a mountain of memorable, contrasting riffery. Add all of this up, and Vol. 4 is a less cohesive effort than its two immediate predecessors, but is all the more fascinating for it. Die-hard fans sick of the standards come here next, and some end up counting this as their favorite Sabbath record for its eccentricities and for its embodiment of the band's excesses.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

1. FLOWER TRAVELLIN’ BAND (6863 Points, 41 Votes, 1 #1)
RYM: #42 for 1971, #941 overall

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Satori is number one in my list in the book. If you look at all the modern doom bands, all of them grew up listening to Satori…

By now, the general public perception of Flower was that of an entirely new band. And so, in the spring of '71, Yuya was delighted to learn that his great friend and facilitator Ikuzo Orita was about to leave Polydor Records for Atlantic, where he wished to make Flower Travellin' Band his first signing. While at Polydor, Orita's winning combination of unabashed enthusiasm for hard rock and determination to locate a singularly Japanese rock sound had helped give rise to many of the most imaginative (though occasionally failed) experiments thus far achieved; Love Live Life +1, Foodbrain, Shinki Chen & Friends, you name it and Orita had probably had a hand in it. Now in control of Atlantic Records' entire Japanese budget, no one was more aware of the company's hefty worldwide musical mythology (both past and present) than Orita himself, and he put the weight of the company behind Yuya's band. Immediately thereafter, Orita brought his Polydor protégé Shinki Chen into the Atlantic fold and formed a supergroup named Speed, Glue & Shinki around this whizzkid guitarist whom many rated as Japan's answer to Jimi Hendrix.

While Flower Travellin' Band wowed audiences across Japan, Yuya and Orita conspired in the Atlantic offices, determined to create fabulous rock artefacts to rival Atlantic's biggest progressive bands Led Zeppelin and Yes, whose albums were housed in fabulously arty and multi-levelled packages. Orita secured guaranteed releases for the band in America, Canada and the UK, while Yuya commissioned fine artist Shinoba Ishimaru to work up some ideas based on Buddhism, Hinduism and psychedelia for Flower's forthcoming second LP.

When Yuya and Orita took the band into the rehearsal studio to routine the new material, however, both were staggered at its outrageous confidence and uniqueness. The endless shows and summer festivals had given Hideki Ishima boundless opportunity to work up each riff idea into an ever unfolding Far Eastern monster, which the band unleashed upon their mentors with note-perfect precision. Even more astonishing was the freedom that Joe had given the rest of the band, often singing no more than four or so lines of verse before opting out and letting the band rip it to shreds. Through Ishima's continued fascination for Eastern enlightenment, three of the tracks had acquired the simple working titles of 'Satori I', 'Satori II' and 'Satori III'. Fantastic, said Yuya. Let's keep the entire album just as mysterious and give nothing away. And so it was that Flower Travellin' Band's second LP became known as SATORI, with each of the five long tracks becoming known only as 'Satori I-V'.

With Yuya Utchida and Ikuzo Orita sharing production, SATORI was for ever to remain Flower's most singular and demented work, coming over like some super-fit combination of Led Zeppelin's 'The Immigrant Song' and the Yardbirds' 'Happenings Ten Years Time Ago' as played by a non-blues guitarist such as Michael Schenker, or perhaps Uli John Roth's power trio Electric Sun. However, even these descriptions cannot come close to doing justice to Hideki Ishima's extraordinarily inflammatory playing on SATORI, and although the past decade and a half (1990-2006) has brought so-called heavy metal to entirely new heights, the succinctness of SATORI's arrangements and its economy of playing are still somewhat depressingly unique. Clad in its sumptuous gatefold package, the front page announcing 'Flower Trip Band' [8] sitting atop a psychedelicised Eastern world contained within Shinobu Ishimaru's enormous Buddha, SATORI wowed the Japanese audience and even climbed into the Canadian Top Ten album chart. -- J. Cope

As with Krautrocksampler Julian Cope once again was the first to introduce me to some long-neglected albums with Japrocksampler: How the Post-War Japanese Blew Their Minds on Rock ‘n’ Roll (2007). Satori was tied with Eve (1971) by Speed, Glue & Shinki as the greatest Japanese rock album of all time. I’m definitely on board with Flower Travellin’ Band, whose iconic cover from their debut Anywhere (1970) is featured on the cover of Cope’s book. Cope described Satori as their “most singular and demented work, coming over like some super-fit combination of Led Zeppelin’s ‘The Immigrant Song’ and the Yardbirds’ ‘Happenings Ten Years Time Ago’ as played by a non-blues guitarist such as Michael Schenker, or perhaps Uli John Roth’s power trio Electric Sun.” While I would categorize Satori as proto-metal, the song structures are so far out and guitarist Hideki Ishima’s playing is so original that the album resembles nothing else. It seems only recently that contemporary bands from Japan, Sweden and the U.S. have begun tapping into Flower Travellin’ Band as an influence. -- Fastnbulbous


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[-] by Thom Jurek

Flower Travelling Band was Japan's answer to Led Zeppelin meeting Blue Cheer and Black Sabbath at the Ash Ra Temple. Simply put, they played grand, spacey, tripped-out hard rock with a riffy base that was only two steps removed from the blues, but their manner of interpreting those steps came from an acid trip. Flower Travelling Band was an entity unto itself. There are five tracks on this set, originally released in 1971 as the band's second album proper. It has been reissued on CD by WEA International in Japan, with the cover depicting a silhouette drawing of the Buddha in meditative equipoise filled in with sketches of an inner universe mandala of the sacred Mount Meru, stupas, and the hash smoking caterpillar from Alice in Wonderland, Japanese sci-fi robot cartoons, and more. And the music is reflected in this inner universal realm on five different sections of Satori. From power chords to Eastern-tinged, North African, six-string freakouts, to crashing tom toms, to basses blasting into the red zone, Satori is a journey to the center of someplace that seems familiar but has never before been visited. It is a new sonic universe constructed from cast-off elements of the popular culture of the LSD generation. Forget everything you know about hard rock from the 1970s until you've put this one through your headphones. It's monolithic, expansive, flipped to wig city, and full of a beach blanket bong-out muscularity. In other words, this is a "real" classic and worth any price you happen to pay for it.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

Wow.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

campaigning does work!

wk, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

EAT IT FUNHOUSE!

wk, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

had my hopes up about sabbath but that's awesome nonetheless and feels truer to this poll maybe

balls, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

tom d is gonna moan like hes never moaned before :)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

uh

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:43 (eleven years ago) link


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