ILM's Now For Something Completely Different... 70s Album Poll Results! Top 100 Countdown! (Part 2)

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No f-in' way is the Cherry Thing cover of 'Dream Baby Dream' better than the original.

emil.y, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

Surprised Space Ritual is so high, but it is super-ace-awesome-wicked.

emil.y, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

she sucks all the empathy out of the song. xp

anyway, BOOM! space ritual my number one. yay!

stirmonster, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

was looking forward to a baffled xgau review of space ritual but ok

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

Back for a sec, back to meeting in 15 min. Looks like everyone was surprised by Groundhogs, but no surprise that anyone checking it out seems impressed.

Fun House was my #1 too. Definitely the most #1s so far, by far. I'm always surprised when it doesn't top every poll!

Ash Ra Tempel! Copey's presence really looms large in this poll -- I bet a lot of these albums wouldn't have placed at all if it weren't for his tireless advocacy these past 15+ years. I think I like him better as a writer at this point than a musician!

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

Born To Go destroyed me when I first heard it a few months ago. The rest was good, but sheesh that opening blast

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

Xgau's only review of Hawkwind is of Quark, Strangeness and Charm:

In the old days, this likable British band played more benefits than Joan Baez and helped give psychedelic rock its bad name--when you repeat three chords in 4/4 for forty-five minutes, it's politic to change riffs once in a while. Yet they're still around, and good for them. Here they manage to spread six songs over eight cuts--a trick accomplished by granting two rather ponderous jams names and numbers of their own--as well as introducing more substantial innovations: for every song there's a good new riff, and by now the old sci-fi/counterculture themes mean something, probably because lyricist Robert Calvert has gained wit and wisdom since the time of zonk. Irresistible: the title cut, which suggests that Einstein had trouble with girls because he didn't dig subatomic physics. B+

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

she sucks all the empathy out of the song. xp

oh wow, we're gonna have to agree to disagree here I think!

space ritual is great! not better than &c...

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

Space Ritual another massive find through the noms/campaigning, such an addictive listen.
SPACE IS THE ABSENCE OF TIME AND OF MATTER.

Eamon Dool Two (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

Space Ritual blows away even people who never cared for Hawkwind. Its such a monster of an album.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

LA Blues is ripping off the white-noise thing Spiritualized do at every gig. Pathetic.

(yes it's really, really great :D)

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

o jesus the bit where the drums pull back and the feedback spirals up and then the drums tumble back in

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

7. AMON DÜÜL II Yeti (5220 Points, 39 Votes, 1 #1)
RYM: #23 for 1970, #491 overall | Acclaimed: #1838

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Their sophomore effort, the double album Yeti, is regarded by most as their definitive album and as the one that brought Amon Duul II to realize their full potential as improvisers. The lengthy "Soap Shop Rock" upon its 3 parts, resembles the earlier work of King Crimson in its transition from lyrical emphasized parts into more musically aggressive ones. Impressive no less are "Yeti" and "Yeti Talks to Yogi" -- both long and fantastic Space Rock improvisations of the kind that makes you forget which planet you are on. Even in the shorter tracks the band managers to realize an impressive psychedelic vision and the menacing "Archangel Thunderbird" and the delicate, almost Folk-like "Cerberus" are of particular quality to back this claim up. 1970 was a great year for Amon Duul II: Despite several of its members left in order to join different projects (Shrat formed Sameti while the British Anderson returned to England to join Hawkwind), the band had a fantastic album under its belt and was also chosen as the best underground group by the readers of Musical Express magazine. -- R. Chelled

There's lots of other classic material on these doubles (naturally!) and not least the second side of YETI which has some of the most mind-bending psychedelic music on record. And, let's not forget the weirdly twisted songs that were as surreal as the music they were contained in! There's so much weird invention in these records that eludes some, especially in the use of electronics and collage, all woven into forays of guitars, violin, drums and magnificent keyboards. These records sizzle and astound as much today as they ever did. -- Cosmic Egg

This epic double-album was to change everything for them. And in Britain, they were soon to become heroes of the underground. The John Peel Show, already champion of so much German music, embraced Yeti with real love and blasted Amon Duul II's long epics across the British night into every young Head's pad (or bedroom if you were 13 as I was then). Even the sleeve of Yeti showed that it was a confident ground-breaking record. This was the first of the Falk-Ulrich Rogner's slide projection covers, and the star was Shrat the bongo-player, with his weird low forehead and a strange peasant dress, wielding a huge scythe across a field of bright yellow ground fog; the Grimreaper as a Krautrocker. IT was a mesmerizing image, and one which should stay with them throughout their career, though Shrat would quit soon after. Indeed Amon Duul themselves understood the power of the Shrat image because it became their future logo. Though their sound was pared down to just one drummer and one bongo player, still the ancient Egyptian mystery was achieved in the magical swirl of the music. Yeti was a fabulous double-album - 68 minutes of some of the greatest Krautrock ever. The first record was filled with terrifying mini-epics; "Soap Shop Rock," the wiry medley, with the ridiculously named "Flesh-Coloured Anti-Aircraft Alarm"; six minutes of mythical fear-inducing magic tales. What the hell is going on in that song? Something scary is implied but the precise meaning always eludes me. But the greatest of all their punk songs is "Archangel's Thunderbird," the car that Renate implores everyone to drive over a "Louie Louie" Boeing 747 riff that has them come in late on the breakdown, kind of like Jim Morrison's famous live TV fluff on "Touch Me." I love that they kept it in. IT shows such of-the moment confidence. The drumming is not rock 'n' roll at all, though who knows what it is. IT crashes in and out of the beat, sometimes sounding like a musician playing a different song, only for the beat to inexorably return. And Yeti is Amon Duul II's greatest improvisation LP of all. The three very long tracks are organic and sensational, the side long title-track is an epic piece of turbulent out-there Kosmische Musik. But my favourite piece is easily "Sandoz in the Rain," on which both Amon Duul II and members of Amon Duul I were re-united. This beautiful song is very reminiscent of the sound of Amon Duul I's then current Paradieswarts Duul LP. IT may be because of the eerie-beautiful rock 'n' roll fake English that Rainer Bauer sings. -- J. Cope

After the sprawling chaos of 1969 debut 'Phallus Dei' comes the double album 'Yeti' which to me is the best thing they ever did and in no way could ever match. Led by two singer/guitarists Chris Karrer and John Weinzierl Amon Duul II combined dissonance and melody add drugs in the mix and out comes 'YETI'.

The album begins with the 13 minute suite of 'Soapshop Rock' which is divided into 4 segments, the first segment A)'Burning sister' rumbles with great riffs,insane lyrics and bouncing octavetastic bass from future Hawkwind member Dave Anderson.B)'Halluzination guillotine' slows the pace with eastern tinged guitar licks and powerful sparse drums.Things turn silly for the pointless C)Gulp A Sonata and the band round things up with with final attack of last part/reprise of D)Flesh Coloured Anti-Aircraft Alarm.

'Archangel Thunderbird' is a great rock n roll song sung by the German version of Grace Slick Miss Renate Knaup whose vocals and lyrics struggle to keep up with the riff but its a belter of a song nonetheless.

Things mellow out for acoustic flavoured 'She Came through the Chimney' the vibe begins to slowly darken with more eastern influences the driving 'Cerberus' the menacing 'The Return Of Rubezahl' and the truly weird slow stoner riffs and creepy robotic vocals of 'Eye Shaking King' and Kraut experiment of 'Pale Gallery'.

The last 3 songs of Yeti are the much maligned improvisations which are the 18 minute title track,'Yeti Talks to Yogi' and last song 'Sandoz in the rain'.I admit these improvs took a few listens but after getting used to them they reveal wonders in their madness.I couldn't stop listening to this album and its one of my all time favourites cos of it's scope and don't give a fuck attitude.Great guitars,fucked up vocals and experimental acid rock,a double album thats fascinating from start to finish.Highly recommended -- Kaktus, Head Heritage

Among the influences and its fans including Julian Cope (thanks for getting me into this band!), a band that was completely ahead of their time and never got the experiemental scene of the early '70s going in their hometown in Germany. Alongside Krautrock legends including; Tangerine Dream, CAN, Faust, Ash Ra Tempel, and NEU!, the band that deserves the attention the most is defintely Amon Duul II. From the ashes of the Amon Duul, Amon Duul II had a taste of bizarre science-fiction rock music, psychedelic jam sessions, and folky fiddlers pounding away like fucking psychopaths at the end of the flower generation of the '60s and into the '70s. 

The group followed up their freak-out album which was an answer to the Grateful Dead with the release of Phallus Dei (God's Penis) in 1969 and into their second album Yeti, a dynamic strange album which features a cover of the grim reaper looking more anti-hippie than ever, they pushed the envelope very, VERY, VERY FAR! With guitarist and violinist Chris Karrer, guitar and pianist John Weinzeri, bassist Lothar Meid, drummer Peter Leopold, keyboardist Falk U Rogner, and germany's answer to Grace Slick of the '70s, Renate Knaup-Krroetenschwanz to the mix, was a pefrect combination of heavy volume acid folk music gone horribly wrong.

Amon Duul II at the time were a cult band in the '70s drawing word-of-mouth from supporters including David Bowie and Rolling Stone critic Lester Bangs in which he says 'There has never been a group quite like Amon Düül II before, and there may never be another to transmute so many sounds ever again.' Turns out that he was 100% right. I mean you'll never see them performing at gigantic stadiums and selling out to the fucking mainstream bullshit you see on MTV and VH1. Anyway, back to Yeti. This album, turn this motherfucker up to 100 and make sure you take a shitload of acid and LSD while putting you're headphones on to this stoner krautrock masterpiece over 13 tracks to make you go apeshit over.

With fuzztone guitars and vocals, sinister violin sounds coming from an alternate soundtrack of the Wicker Man, Yeti was germany's answer to the Prog Rock genre and of course the beginning of the Krautrock-era. Strangely, Musically, it pushed the buttons that derserved to be pushed arrangement and composition's that you'll never hear in any Frank Zappa album. The 3-minute garage rocker Burning Sister which had become a kind of a live favorite for them in their Live in London album, is certainly a proto-hard rock killer with psychedelic guitar solos and dynamic drum work to fill the void as it segues to Halluzination Guillotine to close up the sequel with its trippy vocals, bass lines which almost sounded like Pink Floyd's Careful with that Axe Eugene as Chris does a dark montone singing vocals as he sings about the 15th centuries gorefest killings while Renate does some witchy vocals that seemed like it was too scary for halloween, but perfect for a horrorshow. 

Gulp a Sonata is basically guitar and Renate and Chris own take to do their own homage of Operattic vocals and the fiddle sounding like a movie soundtrack as it goes into the 6-minute Flesh-Coloured Anti-Aircraft Alarm, a pasaging trouble funeral music gone haywire, not bombastic than Steve Howe's guitar and Darryl Way's fiddling can't stop it, the track goes into an darker folk music with its Anti-Vietnam message as it goes into a space trip mode at the very end into a freak-out mode and then repeating the notes from the opening introduction of Burning Sister as it ends with the fiddle; it seemed that Karrer decided to leave that at the last minute to give you a suprise moment for a brief second. She Came Through the Chimney starts off as an Indian pasage and its Quicksilver Messenger Service guitar solos while Karrer does some disturbing noises on the violin that would make your ears screech and bleed really hard for this insturmental passage. 

And then we go right into a proto punk rock style with Archangel Thunderbird as Renate takes over the vocals which almost sound very gothic and very Night on Bald Mountain for her to sing her heart out which has more of darker view of the apocalypse of war while Cerebus becomes more of a fast-sped Robert Fripp acoustic folk music at first and then becomes a fuzztone dimension. The Return of Rubezahl becomes an egyptian rock sound and almost coming out of a japanese rock album for the industrial-era as it moves into Eye Shaking King, a dark vicious piece which has a fuzzy vocals that you almost couldn't understand what Karrer is saying but the instruments follow him into a pool of blood parade that would have made Robert Calvert and Hawkwind proud while Pale Gallery features Rogner's 2-minute homage to Tangerine Dream's Electronic Meditation on the keyboards. 

Then we go right into the mysterious groundbreaking quality of epic proportions with the self-titled track for 18-minutes of an alternate crossover of a heavy psych sounds of Frank Zappa meets Varese in German style. It has the same combinations of Phallus Dei, but more black and very oddly normal than your typical Krautrock album. It begins with the drums and guitar doing their homages to Africa and India as the keyboards sound almost like something out of Interstellar Overdrive and then guitarists Kerrer and Weinzeri take over a do a battle of the guitars and it isn't just a guitar battle, but more of who's got the guts to battle over who does a heavy job to be the best cult guitar player ever egyptian style! Then the drums come in to calm them down and the bass comes in as Karrer and Renate sings about the god while Weinzeri does some heavy virtuoso guitar solos than ever before alongside Michael Karoli, Hendrix, and Manuel Gottsching. 

And then the last 3-minutes, it calms down into a laser show with the wah-wah setting the scenery of psychedelic colors on the instrumentations to set a dynamic and shattering movements that seemed very odd for the 13th century that seemed ancient for the slaves to play with their heads and looking over the horizon to see this band playing their hearts out for them to be free and enjoying the music which almost reminds me a little bit of Pink Floyd's Fat Old Sun. And then it becomes even more aggressive with Yeti Talks to Yogi. This is an improvisation that you MUST hear from beginning to end. In the midsection Leopold takes over on the drums like a mad scientist while the guitars rhythmically does a chugging on the wah-wah a few seconds as Falk's keyboards do some groovy ambient noises to fill up the entire album very Rick Wrightish that was almost left off the Ummagumma composition, Sysyphus. And then the guitars come in as the Bass does some solos to do something that seemed weird but fucked up in a good way. 

And then it becomes aggressive again with the instruments fighting one by one as the vocalists do a heavy background style that almost deals with death and the end of the world. The last track Sandoz in the Rain is again very acid folk meets Comus' First Utterance. Guitars seemed like their doing their own compositions strumming and fingerpicking at the same time while the flute does an indian solo while Karrer sings like a madman and very calm that could have defintely been a part of Black Sabbath's Solitude from the Masters of Reality album. Strange, Vicious, and Dark at the same time. This is Amon Duul II's essential lost treasure of Krautrock and Prog's adventures in the mysterious dark cave. -- Zmanathanson, Head Heritage

Grown like fungus from a harry, hippie commune, the first incarnation managed one decent album in Paradieswärts Düül. However, it’s the offshoot that produced the most awe-inspiring music, starting with Phallus Dei (1969), translating to “God’s Cock.” Yeti is even better, both heavier (lurching psychedelic guitar freakouts) and prettier (“Sandoz in the Rain”).Dance Of The Lemmings (1971) is more fragmented and contentious. Some think it’s their best, Cope thinks it’s a “pile of pedestrian shit.” I’d say it’s their fifth best and leave it at that. Carnival In Babylon and Wolf City (1972) are much different, with acoustic guitars and slightly more structured songwriting. Some swear by these as their best. Repertoire reissued the first three, remastered with bonus tracks, and Revisited did later albums in similarly lush digipacks.  -- Fastnbulbous


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[-] by Stewart Mason

The second album by Amon Düül II (not to be confused with the more anarchic radicals Amon Düül), 1970's Yeti, is their first masterpiece, one of the defining early albums of Krautrock. A double album on vinyl, Yeti consists of a set of structured songs and a second disc of improvisations. It's testament to the group's fluidity and improvisational grace that the two albums don't actually sound that different from each other, and that the improvisational disc may actually be even better than the composed disc. The first disc opens with "Soap Shop Rock," a 12-minute suite that recalls King Crimson's early work in the way it switches easily between lyrical, contemplative passages and a more violent, charging sound, and continues through a series of six more songs in the two- to six-minute range, from the ominous, threatening "Archangels Thunderbird" (featuring a great doomy vocal by mono-named female singer Renate) to the delicate, almost folky acoustic tune "Cerberus." The improvisational disc contains only three tracks, closing with a nine-minute stunner called "Sandoz in the Rain" that's considered by many to be the birth of the entire space rock subgenre. A delicate, almost ambient wash of sound featuring delicately strummed phased acoustic guitars and a meandering flute, it's possibly the high point of Amon Düül II's entire career. [Most CD issues have squeezed the two discs onto one CD by cutting three minutes out of "Pale Gallery," but the Captain Trips CD restores it to its full five-minute length.]

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Copey's presence really looms large in this poll -- I bet a lot of these albums wouldn't have placed at all if it weren't for his tireless advocacy these past 15+ years. I think I like him better as a writer at this point than a musician!

― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:47 PM (11 minutes ago)

I've read two books by this guy but haven't heard a lick of his music. Where to start, if at all?

(oh look, another of his recommendations!!)

today's tom soy yum, mean mean thai (Spectrist), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

listen to Fried and Jehovahkill before dismissing him, at least - they're sublime

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

and the 1st teardrop explodes!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

I think Cope overrates his contribution to musical knowledge. He often behaves as if he really was the first person to discover a lot of these bands. Also, while I think Krautrocksampler is a great little book, I disagree with a lot of his assessments.

emil.y, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

start with Fried and make sure you get or hear the version with Land Of Fear as a bonus track

Jehovahkill is longer, denser and more Krautastic, needs a few more listens perhaps, but is probably even better

2nd Teardrop Explodes has an unbelievable final pair of tracks

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

I walked past mr cope at atp once, it was about 8am & we were both walking back to our chalets after the usual abuse. He said good morning, I offered him a swig of my bottle of wine, he declined. #coolstorybro

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

cope's only real dickhead move was alienating thighpaulsandra, an artist of perhaps even greater genius than himself

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

I'm no springsteen fan but I am a HUGE suicide fan and I will admit his cover of "dream baby dream" is fantastic and I like it as much if not more than the original

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

I like Cope in general, btw. Just thinks he gets overhyped, and overhypes himself.

emil.y, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

Bless his cotton socks.

emil.y, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

TS: the artless drywank of ELP vs the spiritual airbrushing of Yes vs the formica-mantras of DSOTM-era floyd

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

here's all I can think of when I hear the name julian cope

http://youtu.be/2UJbz-pp6GQ

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

Edward III have you heard neneh & co's version?

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

Cool, one track into Fried and I can def get with this, thanks yall

today's tom soy yum, mean mean thai (Spectrist), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, I thought Yeti had already placed, hence me moaning about the other AD albums beating it upthread.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

a record I played on years ago was an unsung pick by cope but it didn't make it into the copendium so I'm bitter

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

Best Julian Cope song (particularly for the guitar bliss-out in the second half):
Upwards At 45 Degrees

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

He often behaves as if he really was the first person to discover a lot of these bands.

when i was 18 i used to live with a guy who had probably the biggest and best kraut collection i've ever encountered. i could probably have had the best possible education about all these crazy records but i was too busy going mad for acid house and dismissed them all as hippy shit. i have been making up for that stupidity for the past 20 years.

stirmonster, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

Haha, oh you fool!

emil.y, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

I actually went on a "dream baby dream" covers tear earlier this year, neneh's version didn't do much for me tho

xps

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

6. TELEVISION Marquee Moon (5223 Points, 35 Votes)
RYM: #1 for 1977, #26 overall | Acclaimed: #25 | RS: #128 | Pitchfork: #3

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I know why people complain about Tom Verlaine's angst-ridden voice, but fuck that, I haven't had such intense pleasure from a new release since I got into Layla three months after it came out, and this took about fifteen seconds. The lyrics, which are in a demotic-philosophical mode ("I was listening/listening to the rain/I was hearing/hearing something else"), would carry this record alone; so would the guitar playing, as lyrical and piercing as Clapton or Garcia but totally unlike either. Yes, you bet it rocks. And no, I didn't believe they'd be able to do it on record because I thought this band's excitement was all in the live raveups. Turns out that's about a third of it. A+ -- R. Christgau

TV signed to Elektra and released Marquee Moon, produced by Andy Johns, in 1977. A tendency to "jam" onstage caused detractors (and, paradoxically, British fans) to refer to them as the Grateful Dead of punk, but it was the distinctive two-guitar interplay (along with Verlaine's nails-on-chalkboard vocals) that set them apart. Verlaine's staccato singing in songs like "Prove It" and "Friction" is impressive, and the long workout on the title track showed a willingness to break away from the solidifying traditions of their more selfconscious contemporaries. -- Trouser Press

Along with Blondie and the Ramones, Television achieved their initial notoriety while playing in the same place (an esophagus of a bar called CBGB, in lower Manhattan), and have been lumped together with other habitués of this joint as purveyors of "punk rock." In their self-consciousness and liberal open-mindedness, these bands are as punky as Fonzie; that is, not at all.

Marquee Moon, Television's debut album, is more interesting, audacious and unsettling than either Blondie's eponymous debut album or the Ramones' Leave Home. Leader Tom Verlaine wrote all the songs, coproduced with Andy Johns, plays lead guitar in a harrowingly mesmerizing stream-of-nightmare style and sings all his verses like an intelligent chicken being strangled: clearly, he dominates this quartet. Television is his vehicle for the portrayal of an arid, despairing sensibility, musically rendered by loud, stark repetitive guitar riffs that build in every one of Marquee Moon's eight songs to nearly out-of-control climaxes. The songs often concern concepts or inanimate objects -- "Friction," "Elevation," "Venus (de Milo, that is) -- and when pressed Verlaine even opts for the mechanical over the natural: in the title song, he doesn't think that a movie marquee glows like the moon; he feels that the moon resonates with the same evocative force as a movie marquee.

When one can make out the lyrics, they often prove to be only non sequiturs, or phrases that fit metrically but express little, or puffy aphorisms or chants. (The chorus of "Prove It" repeats, to a delightful sprung-reggae beat: "Prove it/ Just the facts/ The confidential" a few times.)

All this could serve to distance or repel us, and taken with Verlaine's guitar solos, which flirt with an improvisational formlessness, cold easily bore. But he structures his compositions around these spooky, spare riffs, and they stick to the back of your skull. On Marquee Moon, Verlaine becomes all that much better for a new commercial impulse that gives his music its catchy, if slashing, hook.

Television treks across the same cluttered, hostile terrain as bands like the Velvet Underground and the New York Dolls, but the times may be on the side of Verlaine: we have been prepared for Television's harsh subway sound by a grudging, after-the-fact-of-their-careers acceptance of those older bands. -- Ken Tucker, RS

Somewhat mysteriously, Television was the most widely touted band to emerge from the New York New Wave. But Marquee Moon showed the group as the exclusive project of guitarist Tom Verlaine, an interesting Jerry Garcia-influenced guitarist who lacked melodic ideas or any emotional sensibility. -- Dave Marsh, 1983 RS Record Guide

It should be mysterious to no one why Television was so widely touted. What does mystify me is how Marsh could think Verlaine "lacked melodic ideas" or that Television was his "exclusive project" (Richard Lloyd!!). 

The second edition of the Rolling Stone Record Guide was published in 1983. Like the first edition, it was edited by Dave Marsh and John Swenson. Though Marsh, in the first lines of his introduction, purports that this second edition is "virtually a new book," in fact, there was actually quite a bit of overlap between the two guides. At least half of the entries in the second edition are more or less identical to the ones in the first, though in some cases the ratings have changed. Marsh's entry for the band Television, for example, was unchanged, but he downgraded the band's classic debut, Marquee Moon (along with Adventure), from three to two stars. 

Despite the substantial overlap between the two books, the second edition of the record guide is arguably even worse than the first one, primarily because Dave Marsh seems to have exercised even more control this time around. Marsh notes in the introduction that the new edition provides an opportunity to "revise and correct reviews that were inadequate or inaccurate in the earlier addition" by "rewriting ourselves or reassigning the material in question to another reviewer." A few of the more egregious entries in the first edition are amended - for example, Richard Hell is now proclaimed to be a "true poet" and Blank Generation a five star album, while Pere Ubu's Dave Thomas is "the funniest man in rock" and Dub Housing is upgraded from one to four stars. In most cases, though, the writer "reassigned" to an artist is Marsh himself, and almost invariably he is more negative than the previous reviewer. 

One more aside about Tom Verlaine: There was actually a separate entry for Verlaine in the 1983 guide, written by Brian Cullman. Cullman rated both of Tom Verlaine's solo albums four stars, and was about as enthusiastic about Tom Verlaine as Marsh was dismissive of Television. In other words, the takeaway from the 1983 guide is that Marquee Moon is far inferior to Verlaine's solo work, though I'm sure that no one that contributed to the guide actually held that opinion. 

Marquee Moon was #130 on RS's 500 greatest albums list. -- schmidtt, Rolling Stone's 500 Worst Reviews of All Time

Cut the crap, junior, he sez and put the hyperbole on ice.

I concur thus. Sometimes it takes but one record -- one cocksure magical statement -- to cold-cock all the crapola and all-purpose wheatchaff mix ‘n’ match, to set the whole schmear straight and get the current state of play down down down to stand or fall in one, dignified granite-hard focus.

Such statements, are precious indeed.

Marquee Moon, the first legitimate album release from Manhattan combo Television however, is one: a 24-carat inspired and totally individualist creation which calls the shots on all the glib media pigeon-holing that’s taken place predating its appearance; a work that at once makes a laughing stock of those ignorant clowns, who have filed the band’s work under the cretinous banner of “Punk-rock” or “Velvet Underground off-shoot freneticism” or even (closer to home, maybe, but still way off the bulls-eye) “teeth-grinding psychotic rock” (‘Sister Ray’ and assorted sonic in-laws). First things first.

This, Television’s first album is a record most adamantly, not fashioned merely for the N.Y. avant-garde rock cognoscenti. It is a record for everyone who boasts a taste for a new exciting music expertly executed, finely in tune, sublimely arranged with a whole new slant on dynamics, chord structures centred around a totally invigorating passionate application to the vision of centre-pin mastermind Tom Verlaine.

Two years have now elapsed since the first rave notices drifted over the hotline from down in the Bowery. Photos, principally those snapped when the mighty Richard Hell was in the band, backed up the gobbledegook but the music -- well, somehow no-one really got to grips with defining that side of things so that each report carried with it a thumbnail sketch of what the listener could divine from the maelstrom. Influences were flung at the reader, most omni-touted being guitarist mastermind Verlaine’s supposed immense debt to one Louis Reed circa White Heat/White Light which meant teeth-gnashing ostrich gee-tar glissando and whining hyena vocals. You get the picture.

Above all, one presumed Television to be the aural epitome of junk-sick boys straight off the E.S.T. funny farm -- psychotic reactions/narcotic contractions. Hell split the scene mid-75 taking his black widow spider physique and blue-print anthem for the Blank Generation, leaving ex-buddy-boy Tom Verlaine to call all dem shots, abetted by fellow guitarist and all purpose West Coast pin-up boy Richard Lloyd, a most unconventional new wave jazz-orientated drummer, name of Billy Ficca -- plus Hell’s replacement, the less visually imposing but more musically adept Fred Smith.

It’s been a good two years now since Television got those first drooling raves -- two long years which led one at times to believe that Verlaine’s musical visions would never truly find solace encased within the glinting sheen of black vinyl. The situation wasn’t helped in the slightest by Island Records sending over Brian Eno and Richard Williams to invigilate over a premature session back in ‘75, the combination of the band’s possible immaturity and Eno and Williams’ understanding of what was needed to flesh out the songs recorded, resulting in the taping of four or five horrendously flat skeletal performances which gave absolutely no indication regarding the band’s potential.

Following that snafu, Verlaine became, how you say, more than a little high-handed and downright eccentric in his dealings with other record companies and potential middle-man adversaries to the point where even those who quite desperately wished to sign him threw up their arms in despair of ever achieving such an end.

Reports filtering through the grapevine made Verlaine’s behaviour seem like that of a madman. Even when the ink had dried on the contract Joe Smith signed with the band for Elektra Records late last year; Verlaine was apparently still so overwhelmed with paranoia that he activated a policy of never properly enunciating the lyrics to unrecorded songs in performance for fear that plagiarists might steal his lyrics before they’d been set to wax.

The only number he dared to sing close to the microphone at this point was ‘Little Johnny Jewel’, the one-off cult single of ‘76, a bizarre morsel of highly sinister nonsense verse shaped around a quite remarkably lop-sided riff/dynamic which set off visions (at least to this listener’s ears) of an aural equivalent to the visuals used in the German impressionist cinema meisterwerk Dr Caligari’s Cabinet, spliced in half (the track took up both sides of a 45 -- labelled Parts 1 and 2) by a guitar solo which bore a distinct resemblance to, well, yes to Country Joe and The Fish. Their first album you know. The guitar pitch was exactly the same as that utilized by Barry Melton; fluid, mercury-like.

That’s the thing about Television you’ve first got to come to terms with. Forget all that “New York sound” stuff. For starters, this music is the total antithesis of the Ramones, say, and all those minimalist aggregates. To call it Punk Rock is rather like describing Dostoevsky as a short-story writer. This music itself is remarkably sophisticated, unworthy of even being paralleled to that of the original Velvet Underground whose combined instrumental finesse was practically a joke compared to what Verlaine and co. are cooking up here. Each song is tirelessly conceived and arranged for maximum impact -- the point where decent parallels really need to be made with the best West Coast groups. Early Love spring to mind, The Byrds’ cataclysmic ‘Eight Miles High’ period, a soupcon even of the Doors’ mondo predilections plus the very cream of a whole plethora of those psychedelic-punk bands that only Lenny Kaye knows about. Above all though the sound belongs most indubitably to Television, and the appearance of Marquee Moon at a time when rock is so hopelessly lost within the labyrinth of its own basic inconsequentiality that actual musical content has come to take a firm back-seat to “attitude” and all that word is supposed to signify is to these ears little short of revolutionary.

My opening gambit about the album providing a real focus for the current state of rock bears a relevance simply because here at last is a band whose vision is centred quite rigidly within their music -- not, say, in some half-baked notion of political manifesto-mongery with that trusty, thoroughly reactionary three chord back-drop to keep the whole scam buoyant. Verlaine’s appearance is simply as exciting as any other major innovator’s to the sphere of rock -- like Hendrix, Barrett, Dylan -- and, yeah, Christ knows I’m tossing up some true-blue heavies here but Goddammit I refuse to repent right now because this record just damn excites me so much.

To the facts then -- recorded in A & R Studios, New York, produced by Verlaine himself, with engineer Andy Johns keeping a watchful eye on the board and gaining co-production credits, the album lasts roughly three quarters of an hour and contains eight songs, most of which have been recorded in demo form at least twice (the Eno debacle to begin with, followed a year later by a reported superbly produced demo tape courtesy of the Blue Oyster Cult’s Alan Lanier, which, at a guess, clinched the band’s Elektra deal) and have been performed live innumerable times. The wait was been worthwhile because the refining process instigated by those hesitant years has sculpted the songs into the masterpieces that are here present for all to peruse.

Side one makes no bones about making its presence felt, kicking off with the full-bodied thrust of ‘See No Evil’. Guitars, bass and drums are strung together fitting tight as a glove clenched into a fist punching metal rivets of sound with the same manic abandon that typified the elegant ferocity of Love’s early drive. There is a real passion here -- no half-baked metal cut and thrust -- each beat reverberates to the base of the skull, with Verlaine’s voice a unique ostrich-like pitch that might just start to grate on the senses (a la his ex-sweetheart one P. Smith) were it not so perfectly mixed into the grain of the rhythm. The chorus / climax is irresistible anyway -- Verlaine crooning “I understand destructive urges / They seem so imperfect … I see … I see no e-v-i-i-l-l.”

The next song is truly something else. ‘(The arms of) Venus De Milo’ is already a classic among those who’ve heard it even though it has only now been recorded. It’s simply one of the most beautiful songs I’ve ever heard; the only other known work I can think of to parallel it with is Dylan’s ‘Mr Tambourine Man’ -- yup, it’s that exceptional. Only with Television’s twin guitar filigree weaving round the melody it sounds like some dream synthesis of Dylan himself backed by the Byrds circa ‘65. It’s really damn hard to convey just how gorgeous this song is -- the performance, -- all these incredible touches like the call-and-response Lou Reed parody. The song itself is like Dylan’s ‘Tambourine’, a vignette of a sort dealing wiih a dream-like quasi-hallucigenic state of ephiphany. “You know it’s all like some new kind of drug / My senses are hot and my hands are like gloves! … Broadway looks so medieval like a flap from so many pages … As I fell sideways laughing with a friend from many stages.”

‘Friction’ is probably the most readily accessible track from this album simply because, with its fairly anarchic, quasi-Velvets feel plus (all important) Verlaine’s most pungent methedrine guitar fret-board slaughter, here it’ll represent the kind of thing all those weaned on the hype and legend without hearing one note from Television will be expecting. It’s good, no more, no less -- bearing distinct cross-breeding with the manic slant sited on ‘Johnny Jewel’ without the latter’s insidiousness. ‘Friction’ is just that -- throwaway lyrics -- “diction/Friction” etc. -- those kind of throwaway rhymes, vicious instrumentation and a perfect climax which has Verlaine Vengefully spelling out the title “F-R-I-C-T-I-O-N” slashing his guitar for punctuation.

It’s down to the album’s title track to provide the side’s twin feat with ‘Venus De Milo’. Conceived at a time when rock tracks lasting over ten minutes are somewhere sunk deep below the subterranean depths of contempt, ‘Marquee Moon’ is as riveting a piece of music as I’ve heard since the halcyon days of… oh, God knows too many years have elapsed.

Everything about this piece is startling, from what can only be described as a kind of futuristic on-beat (i.e. reggae though you’d have to listen damn hard to catch it) built on Verlaine’s steely rhythm chopping against Lloyd’s intoxicating counterpoint. Slowly a story unfurls -- a typically surreal Verlaine ghost story -- involving Cadillacs pulling up in graveyards and disembodied arms beckoning the singer to get in while “lightning struck itself” and various twilight loony rejects from King Lear (that last bit’s my own fight of fancy, by the way) babbling crazy retorts to equally crazy questions. The lyrics mean little, I would guess by themselves, but as a scenario for the music here they become utterly compelling.

The song’s structure is practically unlike anything I’ve ever heard before. It transforms from a strident two chord construction to a breathtakingly beautiful chord progression which acts as a motif/climax for the narrative until the music takes over altogether. The band build on some weird Eastern modal scales not unlike those used in the extended improvised break of Fairport Convention’s ‘A Sailor’s Life’ on Unhalfbricking. The guitar solo -- either Lloyd or Verlaine -- even bears exactly the same tone as Richard Thompson’s. The instrumentation reaches a dazzling frenzied peak before dispersing into tiny droplets of electricity and Verlaine concludes his ghostly narrative as the song ends with that majestic minor chord motif.

‘Marquee Moon’ is the perfect place to draw attention to the band’s musical assets. Individually each player is superb -- not in the stereotyped sense of one who has spent hour upon hour over the record player dutifully apeing solo, riffs, embellishments but in that of only a precious few units -- Can is the only band that spring to mind here at the moment. Each player has striven to create his own style. Verlaine’s guitar solos take the feed-back sonic “accidents” that Lou Reed fell upon in his most fruitful period and has fashioned a whole style utilizing also, if I’m not mistaken, the staggeringly innovative Jim McGuinn staccato free-form runs spotlit on the hideously underrated Fifth Dimension album (which no one, McGuinn included, has ever bothered to develop).

He takes these potentially cataclysmic ideas and rigorously shapes them into a potential total redefinition of the electric guitar. As far as I’m concerned, as of this moment, Verlaine is probably the most exciting electric lead guitar player barring only Neil Young. As it is, Verlaine’s solo constructions are always unconventional, forever delving into new areas, never satisfied with referring back to formulas. Patti Smith once told me, by the way, that Verlaine religiously spends 12 hours a day practising his guitar playing in his room to Pablo Casals records.

Richard Lloyd is the perfect foil for Verlaine. Another fine musician, his more fluid conventional pitching and manic rhythm work is the perfect complimentary force and his contribution demands to be recognised for the power it possesses. Bassist Smith is always in there holding down the undertow of the music. He emerges only when his presence is required -- yet again, a superb player but next to Verlaine, it’s drummer Billy Ficca, visually the least impressive of all members standing -- aside the likes of cherub-faced Lloyd and super-aesthetic Verlaine, who truly astonishes. Basically a jazz drummer, Ficca’s adoption of Television’s majestic musical mutations as flesh-to-be-pulsed-out makes his pyrotechnics quite unique. Delicate but firm, he seems to be using every portion of his kit most of the time without ever being over-bearing. As one who knows little or nothing, about drumming, I can only express a quiet awe at the inventiveness behind his technique

Individual accolades apart, the band’s main clout lays in their ability to function as one and perhaps the best demonstration of this can be found in ‘Elevation’, side two’s opening gambit and, with ‘Venus’, probably this record’s most immediately suitable choice for a single. Layer upon layer of gentle boulevard guitar makes itself manifest until Lloyd holds the finger-picked melody together and Verlaine sings in that by now well accustomed hyena croon. The song again is beautiful, proudly contagious with a chorus that lodges itself in your subconscious like a bullet in the skull -- “Elevation don’t go to my head” repeated thrice until on the third line a latent ghost-like voice transmutes “Elevation” into “Television”. Guitars cascade in and out of the mix so perfectly.

‘Guiding Light’ is reflective, stridently poetic -- a hymn for aesthetes -- which, complete with piano, reminds me slightly of Procol Harum in excelsis. ‘Prove It’, the following track, is another potential single. Verlaine as an asthmatic ostrich-voice Sam Spade “This case … this case I’ve been working on so long” and of course that chorus which I still can’t hesitate quoting -- “Prove it/Just the facts/Confidential”. From Chandler, Television move to Hitchcock -- at least for the title of the last song on this album: ‘Torn Curtain’ is one of Verlaine’s most recent creations -- a most melancholy composition again reminiscent in part of a Procol Harum song although the timbre of Verlaine’s voice is the very antithesis of Gary Booker’s world weary tones. A song of grievous circumstances (as with so many of Verlaine’s lyrics); the facts -- cause and effect -- remain enigmatically sheltered from the listener. The structure is indeed strange, like some Bavarian funeral march with Verlaine’s vocals at their most yearning. The song is compelling though I couldn’t think of a single number written in the rock idiom I could possibly compare it to.

So that’s it. Marquee Moon, released mid-February in America and probably the beginning of March here. I think it’s a work of genius and had Charlie Murray not done that whole number about “first albums this good being pretty damn hard to come across” with Patti Smith’s Horses last year then I would have pulled the same stunt for this one. Suffice to say -- oh listen, it’s released on Elektra, right, and it reminded me, just how great that label used to be. I mean, this is Elektra’s best record since… Strange Days. And (apres moi, le deluge, kiddo) I reckon Tom Verlaine’s probably the single most important rock singer/songwriter/guitarist of his kind since Syd Barrett, which is my credibility probably blown for the rest of the year. But still…

If this review needs to state anything in big bold, black type it’s simply this. Marquee Moon is an album for everyone whatever their musical creeds and/or quirks. Don’t let any other critic put you off with jive turkey terms like ‘avant-garde’ or ‘New York psycho-rock’. This music is passionate, full-blooded, dazzlingly well crafted, brilliantly conceived and totally accessible to anyone who (like myself) has been yearning for a band with the vision to break on through into new dimensions of sonic overdrive and the sheer ability to back it up. Listening to this album reminds me of the ecstatic passion I received when I first heard ‘Eight Miles High’ and ‘Happenings Ten Years Ago’ -- before terms like progressive/art rock became synonymous with baulking pretensions and clumsy, crude syntheses of opposite forms.

In a year’s time, when all the current three-chord golden boys have fallen from grace right into the pit to become a parody ofPrivate Eye’s apeing of moron rock bands -- Spiggy Topes and The Turds Live at the Roxy -- Tom Verlaine and Television will be out there hanging fire, cruising meteorite-like with their fretboards pointed directly at the music of the spheres. Prove it? They’ve already done it right here with this their first album. All you’ve got to do is listen and levitate along with it. -- Nick Kent, NME

Television were the least commercially successful major band to come out of the punk scene they helped to create at CBGB's. However, their finest hour, Marquee Moon, was as good, if not better, than contemporary seminal works such as Patti Smith's Horses (both of the albums sported a Robert Mapplethorpe front cover) and Talking Heads' debut.

After being shopped around to various labels, Television signed with Elektra in 1976 for their debut. The band was operating without original bassist Richard Hell, who left the group to start the Heartbreakers with Johnny Thunder. Bassist Fred Smith was a most fitting replacement, but his greatest contribution was in introducing Tom Verlaine to Andy Johns (Glyn Johns' brother), who knew enough not to tinker with the blurry jazz-punk sound honed at CBGB's.

The result was a guitar album like no other. Turning away from the bluesy sound that had dominated rock guitar since the 1960s, Television created a work that in its own way is every bit as sweeping as Led Zeppelin's finest offerings. Starting with the churning "See No Evil," Verlaine and Richard Lloyd tangle their stinging leads into spiraling celebrations of urban grime and street culture. The 11-minute title track led some to draw comparisons with hippie bands, but there was no flower power -- just power -- to be found in "Prove It" and "Guiding Light."

Marquee Moon received a lukewarm response from the public but was hailed by critics, including New Musical Express's Nick Kent, who enthused that "the songs are some of the greatest ever." -- Jim Harrington, 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die


review
[-] by Stephen Thomas Erlewine

Marquee Moon is a revolutionary album, but it's a subtle, understated revolution. Without question, it is a guitar rock album -- it's astonishing to hear the interplay between Tom Verlaine and Richard Lloyd -- but it is a guitar rock album unlike any other. Where their predecessors in the New York punk scene, most notably the Velvet Underground, had fused blues structures with avant-garde flourishes, Television completely strip away any sense of swing or groove, even when they are playing standard three-chord changes. Marquee Moon is comprised entirely of tense garage rockers that spiral into heady intellectual territory, which is achieved through the group's long, interweaving instrumental sections, not through Verlaine's words. That alone made Marquee Moon a trailblazing album -- it's impossible to imagine post-punk soundscapes without it. Of course, it wouldn't have had such an impact if Verlaine hadn't written an excellent set of songs that conveyed a fractured urban mythology unlike any of his contemporaries. From the nervy opener, "See No Evil," to the majestic title track, there is simply not a bad song on the entire record. And what has kept Marquee Moon fresh over the years is how Television flesh out Verlaine's poetry into sweeping sonic epics.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

I love that record but thank god it's not #1

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

Agreed.

emil.y, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

which other covers did you find Edward?

stirmonster, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

A top 10 where I like everything would be an ILX first but it's en route

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

Torn Curtain is the best song IMO and FWIW

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

(and am enjoying Amboss right now! woo)

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

I think only black tambourine, neneh cherry, and springsteen's

but I listen to about 15 different live versions of bruce's, plus the four tet remix of cherry's

also threw in roy orbison's "dream baby" for good measure

xps

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

listened

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Have you heard Angel Corpus Christi's version? xpost

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

(...of "Dream Baby Dream")

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

now that I hear it yeah I did listen to the angel corpus christi, there was one other I found too but c/r who did it

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

I like yeti a lot but I threw my vote at live in london to no avail

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

hadn't heard the black tambourine. will check it out. love the springsteen and angel corpus christi ones. vega's own cover on "cubist blues" with alex chilton and ben vaughn is good too. xp

stirmonster, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

c'mon ppl it's their space ritual

xp

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

haven't heard it! will check it out.

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

funnily enough..

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link


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