ILM's Now For Something Completely Different... 70s Album Poll Results! Top 100 Countdown! (Part 2)

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god fucking damnit i held off on predicting a funhouse win and then you ppl started chiming in w/ it and yep of course it's only #10 which is beyond ridiculous

balls, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

maggot brain was in the tracks poll but still to place here i think?

stirmonster, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

xp to self Though I'm glad it beat Raw Power at least.
Sometimes I think that Fun House is the only rock album that I really need.

Eamon Dool Two (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

well shut my mouth

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

is that Lester Bangs review somewhat feted

gonna have to screen Fun House aren't I

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

Maggot Brain was #86 iirc

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

lj you have never heard fun house???

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

yaaaaaay for nasty rust belt rock

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

btw Junkman by Groundhogs is *awesome awesome awesome*

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

haven't heard it in adulthood, which is as good as not heard

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

the box set is on spotify

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

original idea for poll was strictly rocking stuff a la the 80s poll (though fables of the reconstruction snuck in somehow there) and then, after fending off accusations from some dude and others that his polls are just polls of records that he likes he decided this one he would actually make just a poll of records that he likes. no big whoop - it's just a thread on ilm and as rock lists go this is pretty awesome, i'm way more likely to consult it than the proper official ilm 70s one nevermind any rolling stone or pfork list.

Pretty much how I see it.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

btw that rallizes linked on spotify is very much not the same as live 77 but it's better. live 77 is in fact way more distortiony and blown out (and equally great).

― ryan, Thursday, March 28, 2013 1:49 PM (1 hour ago)

it's essentially the same album, same performances, different track order, heavier drops "the last one" from live 77, and yeah they're mastered differently but it's good enough for government work

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

Maggot Brain was #86 iirc

ok. must have missed that. must be eddie and the hot rods and camembert electrique that have still to place then. :)

stirmonster, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

I was one of the fun house #1's FYI

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

stirmonster obv wasnt around much in the tracks poll to get the meme

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

Fun House was my #34. When I was 19 or so, I think it my all-time favourite album.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

i wasn't, but i never get memes anyhow.

stirmonster, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

I have never heard Fun House, guess I should investigate.

Newgod.css (seandalai), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

Maggot Brainwon the tracks poll but a meme was born earlier.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

AG posted the rankings from a previous poll in the 70s trax rollout thread and everyone confused those with the actual rankings, resulting in a confused yet unshakeable belief that "maggot brain" came in at #86

xp

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

I guess I don't really know why that would be surprising. It's the Stooges' best imo.

xpost to self

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

The next one will inspire the most TOO LOW shouts of the entire poll..

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Pieces of Eight obv

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

"Styx II" is better

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Anything higher than Fun House is TOO HIGH fwiw

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

blowing my mind that some people in this day and age have not yet heard fun house but I'd never heard curtis in its entirety so I guess it's fair do's

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

thanks Sund4r

stirmonster, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

this Loose song is a Spacemen 3 rip-off! I want my time back

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

lol

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

we're on the other side of the mirror now folks

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

I think most of my TOO LOW shouts have already placed too low. I think. Unless it's Tago Mago, I guess, but I think #9 is a decent placing for most things.

emil.y, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

think I'll forgive it; it is very good after all

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

Huh, the Groundhogs actually sound like a good band.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

I would've enjoyed all the funk albums in this poll but they were all apparently made from paul's boutique samples

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

Every song on it is a S3 rip off Imago! TV Eye esp.

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

Never heard of them prior to this exercise. "Soldier" is good classic rock. (Only three songs from Split were on Grooveshark.)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

Very stoked - I think all but a couple of my top twenty have placed already (and I don't have high hopes for them!) - all in all probably my fave poll ever on ILX - Hearin' a lot of good stuff for the first time or with fresh ears ...

BlackIronPrison, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

can't wait for some imago hyperbole when he gets to "LA blues"

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

:)

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

I just realized with dread that not that many Fall albums have placed yet.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

um, only LATWT and Dragnet were pre-80 I think

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

9. ASH RA TEMPEL Ash Ra Tempel (4992 Points, 34 Votes, 1 #1)
RYM: #108 for 1971, #2769 overall

http://coverartgallery.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/ash-ra-tempel-ash-ra-tempel-1971.jpg

After a couple of aborted demo's Ash Ra Tempel decided to go to Hamburg and record an album proper, with the aid of Conny Plank. This resulted in their debut, which was housed in a mystical elaborate centre-opening gatefold cover. As with their live jams, Ash Ra Tempel on record was a unique twist on the space-rock music as pioneered by Pink Floyd and Hawkwind, with elements of both yet devoid of songs, free-rock in the truest sense. Just one track per side: firstly with the power-drive storming "Amboss" (close to Klaus' work in Tangerine Dream) and in contrast, the shimmering timeless "Traummaschine". A yin-and-yang type concept that made for an extraordinary album. But, not too long after this, with a yearning for greater things in life than just playing drums, Klaus Schulze left Ash Ra Tempel, saying to Manuel "You keep the name, I'm going to do other things" and went on to pursue a most fruitful solo career as one of the pioneers of synth music. -- Cosmic Egg

Heat-haze harmonics begin 'Amboss', the opening side long track of Ash Ra Tempel. Intense cymbals and frenzied rumbling bass catch a rhythm, ride it, then it descends once more. It is the power-trio playing as meditational force. When Klaus Schultze's drumming comes in after about three minutes, the thunder is highly charged and superfit, right on The Beat, bash bash bash. Then it's off on the wildest 20 minutes of freakout blitzkrieg. At one point, everything breaks down into a guitar blaze of feedback fed through FX for minutes on end, until the drums tear back in so crazily and in comes Larry Graham's bass playing of the Swoopingest kind. Oh fuck man, this is the greatest Detroit-est trip of all time. Not a heavy metal assault but a methodical breaking down of all your senses until you are crushed and insensible. And if Side 1 pulverised you, then the 25 minute 'Traummaschine (Dream Machine)' lets you lie there in the afterglow and never disturbs you beyond the slightest disruption of Vibrations. A percussionless dreamscape of sounds cascades around the room, and a wailing woman-voiced beauty fills the air. Then, rising out of the peace comes the guitar shimmer and finally the hollow congas of Klaus Schultze. And the fuzz beauty of Manuel Gottsching's guitar scythed all down the great rush through space. Then it's off into yet another inspiring dimension as Ash Ra Tempel fly around the universe... Ash Ra Tempel is at its greatest when it's impossible to work out what instrument makes which sound.

It's one of the greatest rock 'n' roll LPs ever made.  -- J. Cope

Just two long tracks, “Amboss” is a massively heavy guitar freakout, while “Traummaschine (Dream Machine)” is all floaty afterglow. Cope calls it “one of the greatest rock ‘n’ roll LPs ever made.” No doubt. Schwingungen (1972) is nearly as great, and was reissued in 2003 as a deluxe edition by Cleopatra. For fans only is 7Up (1973), their collaboration with acid guru Timothy Leary. -- Fastnbulbous


review
[-] by Ned Raggett

In light of the 1990s post-rock scene and the often clear links back to Krautrock of all stripes, Ash Ra Tempel's monster debut album stands as being both astonishingly prescient and just flat out good, a logical extension of the space-jam-freakout ethos into rarified realms. Featuring the original trio of Enke, Gottsching and Schulze, Ash Ra Tempel consists of only two side-long tracks, both of which are gripping examples of technical ability mixed with rock power. If more progressive music was like it, there wouldn't be as many continuing complaints about that genre as a whole. "Amboss" contains the more upfront explosions of sound, though it mixes in restraint as much as crunch. Starting with Gottsching's extended guitar notes and Schulze's cymbals, it begins with a slow, ominous build that is equally haunting, as mysterious as the cryptic artwork of temples and figures found on the inside. Quick, rumbling drums slowly fade up some minutes in, with more crashing guitar mixing in with the previous tones, creating a disorienting drone experience. The active jam then takes over the rest of the song at the point, the three going off just as they want to (Gottsching's soloing in particular is fantastic) before all coming back together for an explosive, shuddering series of climaxes. "Traummaschine," in marked contrast, is a quieter affair, with Gottsching's deep drones setting and continuing the tone throughout. Fading in bit by bit, the guitars are accompanied by equally mesmerizing keyboards from Schulze, creating something that calls to mind everything from Eno's ambient works to Lull's doom-laden soundscapes and, after more distinct guitar pluckings start to surface, Flying Saucer Attack's rural psychedelia. Halfway through, soft percussion blends with the music to create a gentle but persistent intensity, cue for a series of shifts between calmer and more active sections, but all kept more restrained than on "Amboss."

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

Ha! Great album.

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

um, only LATWT and Dragnet were pre-80 I think

OK, that's relieving.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

Cool. Not too low, though.

emil.y, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

not better than warm jets, ege bamyasi, there's a riot goin on &c... but vg

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

this poll is bombarding me with things I really want to hear! ash ra tempel reads alluringly

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

yesssssss one of my fave finds from the pre-rollout campaigning.

Eamon Dool Two (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link


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