ILM's Now For Something Completely Different... 70s Album Poll Results! Top 100 Countdown! (Part 2)

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Don't know if it's my copy but that album sounds like pure sludge whenever I play it - I thought Jimmy Page was supposed to be good at this production lark!

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

Was In The Jungle Groove nommed in this here thing?

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

too high.

stirmonster, Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

Oh also let me take this opportunity to say that the opening notes of On Some Faraway Beach have always reminded me of the opening notes of 70s classic rock staple Still the Same (which apparently peaked at #4 in 78).

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

12. THE GROUNDHOGS Split (4753 Points, 33 Votes, 1 #1)
RYM: #78 for 1971, #1852 overall

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The Groundhogs stretched their success with their next album -- Split. This album kept up with the same musical trajectory previous work has started, but this time focused on Schizophrenia as its main theme. The sound is a bit more grungy and murky, springing to life fantastic Fuzz guitar. The four tracks on side 1 are just numbered 1-4 and really invoke the concept which Split sets to create while the uptempto "Cherry Red" of side 2 became the band's biggest hit ever. This album went into the Top 10 as well. R. Chelled

In the post-Hendrix fallout of the aimless, wandering early '70s, only the Groundhogs harnessed the fury of lost '60s Dream idealism in order to capture on record their very own pre-punk onslaught. Many of the British groups such as Juicy Lucy and Sandoz turned to the post-blues of Zappa and Beefheart for inspiration, but nowadays the results sound as contrived as their mentors; overly intellectual and, ultimately, stridently un-British. London squats of 1971 resounded to the fakery of bogus Delta blues singers, as though only a desert twang could infuse rock'n'roll with a truthful alienation. But, like the obscure genius of London's short-lived Third World War, Tony McPhee's Groundhogs proved that this need not be the case at all, and Split is the album that provided the main body of evidence. This album of paranoid delusion and post-drug trauma was seen by its author as a straight account of a real event. As he said at the time: "I seemed to lose my entire personality … I never talked to anyone, because nothing seemed to be worth saying … I don't reach any conclusions - it's just … what happened, that's all." Both musically and lyrically, Split speaks for a lost time, a nomad time when ideals took to the hoof and musicians stayed on the road rather than confront the fact that the '60s 'war' had been lost. 

Unlike other contemporary bands, economy of notes was not part of the Groundhogs agenda. On Split, more than any other Groundhogs album, they played in a shamanic whirling that shattered and scattered the beat around in several directions at once. The frenzied drumming of Ken Pustelnik reduced the kit to the role of moronic streetgang defenseless against one lone Kung Fu hero. Stun-guitars wah-wah'd and ricochet'd at random against concrete walls, leaving passers by mortally wounded but deliriously happy. Even Pete Cruickshank's bass, that one remaining anchor, was no anchor at all, but a freebass undermining the entire structure. As McPhee explained in a Zigzag interview of the time:

"[Ken] just wallops everything in sight and sometimes I lose him completely. Like I often come back in during a solo and can't work out where he is - so I just have to play a note and let it feed back until I can find my way back in. And Pete doesn't help either, because he's all over the place and he follows me rather than Ken … so when we fall apart, we really fall apart."

The brutal honesty of this quote showcases Tony McPhee's determination to follow his muse to the end. His singing is confused and compassionate, dazed and un-macho at a time of hoot'n'holler chest beating. And despite the wonder-fuelled strengths of Split's first side, each song is reduced to the anonymity of mere numbers: "Split 1", "Split 2", "Split 3" and "Split 4". Yet each is complete and each is anything but anonymous. The furious "Split 1" careers through its description of McPhee's "suicidal derangement" as he termed it with murderous bass and wah guitar interplaying. "Split 2" de-tunes itself into awesome/awful life with a chasm guitar riff that snare shatters into a tearing riff account of McPhee leaping out of bed in black hole terror, before the floor of the room gives way and he ends: "I must get help before I go insane". Ghost Hammond organ chords punctuate the ends of this piece. Song 3 is a chiming clean bell-tone blues which breaks off into formidable noise rock and tears the roof of the sucker, before "Split 4" sees the singer get "down on his knees and pray to the sun". The heathen one-chord flailing of this song is occasionally interrupted by more squeezy wah, but the highway blues riffs and car crash guitars see the track open out into a wide blue horizon'd escape, before McPhee's distorto-feedback bursts into flames like Barry Newman's Dodge Challenger at the end of Vanishing Point.

Side Two opens with their most famous song of all: "Cherry Red". Another sonic clatterwail in the Groundhogs' more-is-more/hit-everything methodology, the propellant bass and plate-spinning cymbals undermine ernie-ernie guitars and a vocal, which shifts from alpha male to soul castrato. McPhee's guitars swallow the rhythm section whole, then he undermines us all by becoming his own female backing singer.

The dark ages ballad that is "A Year in the Life" grubs around in the soil like low church bell-ringers on vacation from Black Sabbath's first album sleeve. Invention and dignity and mystery. "Junkman" is insane. A ramshackle Fall-type Steptoe & Sonic boom of a song, which veers into staccato Guru Guru stop-start, before collapsing into freeform slide-toilet bowl FX guitar for several minutes. Then we hit the last song of all, a blues standard called "Groundhog Blues", approached with the same attitude that inhabited their Blues Obituary album. Drums are here reduced to cardboard box/frontporch patterstomp like Beefheart's "China Pig", while McPhee's blues is a sorrow-drowning greysky of seagull guitars. Split falls to the ground in a massively underplayed style - as though Evel Knievel had chosen to mount a unicycle for the three-minute encore of his hour-long 1000cc show. That's confidence. -- J. Cope

The fourth Groundhogs album is probably their heaviest -- not necessarily measured by the lowing of their low end, but in terms of the mood and subject matter. McPhee became a troubled figure between the previous album and this one -- insular to the point of silence. "My mind and body are two things, not one," from 'Split: Part Three' (the first side of the LP was a four-part title track) is perhaps the crucial lyric in what amounts to a damn notepad of couch confessions. The doomy intro to 'Split: Part Three' shares consecrated ground with 'Black Sabbath', the song, and musically you get the impression the lads might have seen some potential in their high drama; likewise, the disassembled blues of Captain Beefheart. The arrangements get ever more tricksy over these 40 minutes or so, the slide guitar outbursts more wailing -- 'Split: Part Four' exemplifies this even before the free-rock guitar detonation at the end. (It also has a verse where McPhee attempts to hedge his bets by adhering to Islam and Christianity at the same time.)

'Cherry Red', with which Split side two kicks off, is one of those songs that you probably know better than you think you do. It isn't empirically obvious why it's become their best known song, but there's definitely something to be said for getting a bit aled up and nodding, nodding dog-like, to a cyclical bassline which pays no attention to the guitar doing its wrecking ball act over the top. 'A Year In The Life' (was everything that sounded a bit like a Beatles songtitle assumed to be a Beatles reference at the time, I wonder to no-one in particular?) is more of that prototypical Sabbathian gloomery; 'Junkman' is a genuinely weird shift between pensive jangle and antisocial FX buggery which Julian Cope has accurately described as "like the flushing of an electric toilet". Their old mucker John Lee Hooker is hat-tipped at the end via a wheeze through his 'Groundhog Blues', the source of their name. It's faithful but fugly, sounding uncomfortably close and distorted; if written music was the written word, this would be full of missed apostrophes and unnecessary full stops. A fitting enough ending for an album that consistently prickles you one way or another. -- Noel Gardner, The Quietus

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Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

I like that album but that is ridiculously high

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

dj mencap write-up = intrigued, although i'm surprised he says that about beefheart

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

amg


review
[-] by Mike DeGagne

As the Groundhogs' best example of their gritty blues-rock fire and unique form of guitar-driven music, Split reveals more about Tony McPhee's character, perseverance, and pure love for performing this style of blues than any other album. Based around the misunderstanding and mystery of schizophrenia, Split takes a raw, bottom-heavy recipe of spirited, spunky guitar riffs (some of the best that McPhee has ever played) and attaches them to some well-maintained and intelligently written songs. The first four tracks are simply titled "Part One" to "Part Four" and instantly enter Split's eccentric, almost bizarre conceptual realm, but it's with "Cherry Red" that the album's full blues flavor begins to seep through, continuing into enigmatic but equally entertaining tracks like "A Year in the Life" and the mighty finale, entitled "Groundhog." Aside from McPhee's singing, there's a noticeable amount of candor in Peter Cruickshank's baggy, unbound percussion, which comes across as aimless and beautifully messy in order to complement the blues-grunge feel of the album. Murky, fuzzy, and wisely esoteric, Split harbors quite a bit of energy across its eight tracks, taking into consideration that so much atmosphere and spaciousness is conjured up by only three main instruments. This album, along with 1972's Who Will Save the World?, are regarded as two of the strongest efforts from the Groundhogs, but Split instills a little bit more of McPhee's vocal passion and dishes out slightly stronger portions of his guitar playing to emphasize the album's theme.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

ahhh, didn't see the J. Cope bit. lawlz

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

Groundhogs?!

OK, this is officially one wacky poll! (fuck Rolling Stone etc.)

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

"Junkman" is insane. A ramshackle Fall-type Steptoe & Sonic boom of a song, which veers into staccato Guru Guru stop-start, before collapsing into freeform slide-toilet bowl FX guitar for several minutes.

AKA a piece of crap to you and me

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

Split is a brilliant album

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

Are you sure you're counting these up right?

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Seandalai tabulates my polls not me

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

I have never even heard of the Groundhogs! Sign of a good poll imo.

Newgod.css (seandalai), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

famous fans include John Peel (natch), Josh Homme, Stephen Malkmus,Julian Cope, Karl Hyde (of underworld)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

Groundhogs are cool and all, but it never would've occurred to me they'd make the top 12, much less the top 100.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

Mark E. Smith too? (xp)

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

power of campaigning

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

If you like Groundhogs, you'll probably really like Captain Beyond's s/t record, which does similar-ish things a little better (mind you this is after 1 Groundhogs track, the damn thing's probably about to engulf me)

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

Split is way better than that

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

11. CAN Ege Bamyasi (4826 Points, 33 Votes, 1 #1)
RYM: #8 for 1972, #130 overall | Acclaimed: #759 | Pitchfork: #19

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Ege Bamyasi is a tighter, more sophisticated version of Tago Mago, though it lacks some of the earlier album's sense of excitement. The group integrates textures, rhythms and experiments into an almost jazz-like form on the two longer pieces, while also producing more concise songs of lyrical beauty like "Sing Swan Song" and "I'm So Green." One of Can's best. -- Trouser Press

Weird and radical innovation, that still sounds bizarre twenty odd years on! In contrast (in fact in contrast with each other) the other two albums to feature Damo were, on the whole, less extreme: EGE BAMYASI with a collection of mostly shorter accessible songs, though still odd and uniquely Can, unexpectedly breaking-out with the wild avant-garde 10 minute "Soup" on the second side. -- Cosmic Egg

Ege Bamyasi was the closest to a pop LP that Can ever got. That's not to say that it is pop, but there are at least clear cut songs with grooves of delightful melody and moment, plus a teen-appeal that still leaves me gasping with love for Damo Suzuki. Ege Bamyasi opens with the percussive rush of 'Pinch', nine minutes of groove in which the whole group seems to stand around the direction of Jaki Leibezeit's fury of drumming. Only Damo's vocal monologue edges out of the taut melee and one of the group hangs a hook on his vocals with a retarded but ultra-catchy mechanical bird-whistle. 'Sing Swan Song' follows in its devotional mid-tempo wake, like a fast funeral barge rowed by warriors, sculling to the music. Damo's vocals are breathily soaring and always his half English sounding, half-unconscious lyrical pronouncements end in the words '...Sing Swan Song' to give the strong impression of something divine being lost. 'One More Night' completes Side 1's drum-led groove down a narrow alley where one chord is enough for Damo to coo "One more Saturday night, one more suck o' your head" over and over. Behind him, the most sexual ethereality enfolds the listener, as Suicidey distantness sends him to sleep.

The bedroom mood continues on to Side 2 with the pleading chorus of "Hey you, you're losing, you're losing, you're losing, you're losing your Vitamin C." Again the drums clatter and bounce as Holger Czukay’s abrupt bass scatters hard low percussives into the arena. The album is then cut in half by the wild trance-funk of 'Soup', a 10-minute freakout back in Tago Mago land. I didn't love it as a 14-year old except for its ability to empty rooms. Harmonically, I wish now that it were at the end of the album, but what a fucking carve up. When Damo starts raving like Kevin Rowland from Dexy's it gets really funny. Then it's into 'I'm So Green', my favourite-ever Can song. This light breeze of a song is so flimsy that it threatens to blow away at any minute. Here's where the David Cassidy comparisons compare most favourably. And then 'Spoon' closes Ege Bamyasi with just about the most unusual "Making love in the afternoon" hit song of all time. This was the first Can LP I bought brand new (Torquay 1972) and it is still my favourite.  -- J. Cope

By far the most canonized (yar) of the Krautrock bands, and for good reason. Two students of Stockhausen (Holger Czukay and Irmin Schmidt) were shaken out of their avant-garde snobbery and introduced to leading-edge pop music (“I am the Walrus,” Hendrix, Mothers of Invention, Captain Beefheart, Velvet Underground) by Czukay’s 19 year-old student, Michael Karoli. Black American sculptor and teacher Malcolm Mooney applied his untrained vocals with utter abandon. Monster Movie (1969) was an excellent debut that built upon their influences, taking the first step towards defining their sound. Mooney freaked out and left the country, and Can found a new singer in Japanese street busker Damo Suzuki. Soundtracks (1970) features the often-covered “Mother Sky.” Tago Mago (1971) is considered by many as their peak. Chaotic and tribal, it can be difficult listening. Ege Bamyasi is to Tago Mago like Beefheart’s Lick My Decals Off, Baby was to Troutmaskreplica—more focused, concise, better. -- Fastnbulbous


review
[-] by Ned Raggett

The follow-up to Tago Mago is only lesser in terms of being shorter; otherwise the Can collective delivers its expected musical recombination act with the usual power and ability. Liebezeit, at once minimalist and utterly funky, provides another base of key beat action for everyone to go off on -- from the buried, lengthy solos by Karoli on "Pinch" to the rhythm box/keyboard action on "Spoon." The latter song, which closes the album, is particularly fine, its sound hinting at an influence on everything from early Ultravox songs like "Hiroshima Mon Amour" to the hollower rhythms on many of Gary Numan's first efforts. Liebezeit and Czukay's groove on "One More Night," calling to mind a particularly cool nightclub at the end of the evening, shows that Stereolab didn't just take the brain-melting crunch side of Can as inspiration. The longest track, "Soup," lets the band take off on another one of its trademark lengthy rhythm explorations, though not without some tweaks to the expected sound. About four minutes in, nearly everything drops away, with Schmidt and Liebezeit doing the most prominent work; after that, it shifts into some wonderfully grating and crumbling keyboards combined with Suzuki's strange pronouncements, before ending with a series of random interjections from all the members. Playfulness abounds as much as skill: Slide whistles trade off with Suzuki on "Pinch"; squiggly keyboards end "Vitamin C"; and rollicking guitar highlights "I'm So Green." The underrated and equally intriguing sense of drift that the band brings to its recordings continues as always. "Sing Swan Song" is particularly fine, a gentle float with Schmidt's keyboards and Czukay's bass taking the fore to support Suzuki's sing-song vocal.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

Locked in for the finale as long as my browser doesn't crash.

Eamon Dool Two (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

Pete Hook ('nother G'Hog fan)

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah, Split Part 2 is the shit. liking this plenty

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

I hope somewhere there's a Groundhogs tribute band called Minced Pig

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

WARM JETSSSSSS! My #1. Homer simpson was right: "rock" music did attain perfection in 1974. Eno's incarnation as reptilian sexpot demigod = one of the happier occurences on this wretched planet.

aagggghhh title track to Here Come the Warm Jets is one of my favorite songs of all time! it's the embodiment of everything all at once! truly the portal to another dimension if you listen to it at the right time and place.

― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:27 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

title-track was an excellent first choice of PA track after the recent Wire gig, which ended with ten minutes of 30 gutarists making white noise

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dreamy

― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:29 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTMFM. For about a decade now I've had a ~vibes~ DJ set existing in my head for which title track is the closer.

imago also otm re driving me backwards, but the whole album is pretty misanthropic! Like "cindy tells me" is actually a pretty shitty take on "middle-class feminism" (don't pay attention to eno telling you not to pay attention to the meanings of these songs) but that's part of its power, a scabrous bourgeois sneer wrapped in an almost-pretty package.

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

EGE BAMYASI! My #10, best can.

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

predictions for the top 10 everyone?

lets see who gets the closest!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

still no space ritual. would have though it was a top ten impossibility but if groundhogs can take 12....

stirmonster, Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Make them now as im eating my dinner. will post #10 in 10 mins

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

o space ritual will most probably be top 5

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Tago Mago, Funhouse.... errrrrrrrr..... The Modern Dance?

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

I still haven't seen Satori show up and I'm pretty excited to see where that will go.

Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

are you taking it right up to #1 tonight, AG?

stirmonster, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

don't rush your dinner AG!

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

"Marquee Moon" been in yet?

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

xxxp Modern Dance already placed I think?

Eamon Dool Two (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

fun house #1, I reckon

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

Surely some Kraftwerk to come?

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

Suspecting at this stage that Ash Ra Tempel self-titled has bitten the dust. Still half-expecting to see Satori and Yeti.

Eamon Dool Two (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

so...

fun house
vol 4
unknown pleasures
space ritual
tago mago
satori
marquee moon
yeti

...all still to come right?

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

"Satori"? Are you serious?

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

only kraftwerk nommed were 1st 2, right? and they've both placed

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

I know "Split" made it to #12 but...

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

probably some talking heads to fill the 'boring classics' quotient

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

satori will place yeah

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

Right K'werk not rawk enough I suppose

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

heads were vetoed!

beau 'daedaly (wins), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

oh good

delete (imago), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link


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