Is journalism dying?

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ten months pass...

http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/nyt_hasnt_been_hit_that_hard.php

j., Saturday, 8 February 2014 00:35 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

"You probably think of us as big innovators on the editorial side."

Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 March 2014 17:39 (ten years ago) link

Ha.

curmudgeon, Monday, 31 March 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link

former alt-weekly editor, now in the academic world, makes hipster plea to rich folks to buy alt-weeklies

Because if the John Henrys and the Jeff Bezoses can pick up papers for a song, it's a song popular when they had more hair and it was on the "radio." Alt-weeklies, however, can be yours for the cost of a download by a band you've never heard of, but one you will totes YouTube after reading that review by an alt's music writer who wears a knit cap, always, even in summer. Because she knows what she's talking about, and she's talking about it in a medium that continues to be relevant — and even sometimes makes money.

What I'm saying is that alt-weeklies are still a darn good value in today's media market. And here's why:

No. 1: They're cheap! So cheap, even broke-ish dailies are plunking down for them! Baltimore City Paper just got eaten by the Baltimore Sun Media Group. The price? Undisclosed, but it couldn’t be much. The underpaid City Paper staff had concocted a scheme before the sale to pool money and buy the thing outright. And let's visit Chicago, shall we? The Sun-Times bought the Chicago Reader in 2012 for about $3 million, according to sources "close to the deal." Consider that's half a million less than a group of eight people paid on eBay that year to have lunch at a steakhouse with Warren Buffet. So instead of a side of creamed spinach (and a few stilted selfies) you could own an institution that's been kicking tail since 1972

curmudgeon, Monday, 31 March 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...
eight months pass...

Just saw this. Was wondering if he was connected to the sovereign citizen movement. And if not, could he be pushed if someone were to send him a few youtubes?

how's life, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link

Sovereign Citizen types claim the right not to have their names spoken/published? Damn, those people are crazier than I thought.

the magnetic pope has sparked (WilliamC), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

Well, they have weird and tricky ownership procedures around them anyway.

how's life, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

good vice diss

the late great, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 03:04 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

i've noticed that i have a new anxiety, just before i am about to post something somewhere that links to a news story or anything dated/dateable, i think to double check to make sure it really is 'now' and not like, four days old

i saw that the guardian has started putting, in addition to the dateline, notices at the tops of stories: 'this article is 2 years old' etc

j., Tuesday, 12 January 2016 22:42 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

lol The New Day closes before we even bother to take the piss

some men just want to watch the world Bern (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 May 2016 06:22 (seven years ago) link

Upbeat, optimistic approach

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 May 2016 07:05 (seven years ago) link

Don't remember even noticing this on sale. Business model seems to have been, a free paper, but costing money?

a defense for Euro-Blackface (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 5 May 2016 07:38 (seven years ago) link

amazed that their innovative pitch of 'A brand new UK National Paper for women and men' somehow failed to grab the attention of readers

i do not sense the entity ted (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 May 2016 08:23 (seven years ago) link

it didn't have a political stance

or readers

some men just want to watch the world Bern (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 May 2016 09:55 (seven years ago) link

rip the new day heaven needed a... whatever you were

i do not sense the entity ted (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 May 2016 10:05 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

these guys did the pied piper table ad, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdkz9y8LRDI

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link

when she says "that's the fun part" a little part of her dies

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link

that tronc recruitment video would make me run away screaming, rather than be put through a funnel and optimized.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/google-funds-press-association-robot-reporter-project-which-will-provide-30000-local-media-stories-a-month/

"The Press Assocation has been awarded €706,000 by Google to develop a robot reporting project which will see computers write 30,000 stories a month for local media."

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 July 2017 09:27 (six years ago) link

"The only other recent movie I can think of that deals with journalism is Spiderman, which certainly doesn't portray it positively." -- original post

the pinefox, Friday, 7 July 2017 09:29 (six years ago) link

Journalism is dying but diaryism is on the rise.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, May 29, 2003 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

* spooky music *

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand)

the pinefox, Friday, 7 July 2017 09:29 (six years ago) link

i answer all phones ever with an exasperated "STUdio"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, May 29, 2003

the pinefox, Friday, 7 July 2017 09:30 (six years ago) link

Maybe the problem is that journalists don't have anyone cool like Spiderman to cover. We need more superheroes!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, May 29, 2003

the pinefox, Friday, 7 July 2017 09:30 (six years ago) link

Are you accusing me of killing journalism with my glib one-liners? I don't think I deserve that but they are symptomatic of the disease, tbh

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 July 2017 09:41 (six years ago) link

man google still can't tell me whether local businesses have changed holiday hours, how will they handle this

j., Friday, 7 July 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link

a robot reporting project which will see computers write 30,000 stories a month for local media

the news has been more and more about reposting tweets and crap it finds on the internet. seems like an area where bots will really excel.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 7 July 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link

Tracer, really I was celebrating the unexpected spirit and quality of ilx c.2003, exemplified by you. :D

the pinefox, Friday, 7 July 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link

clickbait necessary to survive in today's media failed environment

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Friday, 7 July 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

Ha! Thank you pf :)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 July 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link

It seems like Facebook is causing many people who didn't read news before to be forced now to read the shittest news sources ever - and they vote

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Friday, 7 July 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

https://fashionista.com/.amp/2017/08/magazine-interview-format-trend

On Thursday, Harper's Bazaar released the cover story for its September issue, featuring an interview with cover star The Weeknd that was conducted entirely via email. It was a move Rihanna also pulled in The Fader for their May/June issue, with the added stipulation that only five questions could be sent to her. And earlier this year, Paris Jackson was the cover star for not one, but two publications (Teen Vogue and Vogue Australia) where the accompanying interview happened over text. Like, on a phone.

So what exactly is going on here? Is this about magazines being too short-staffed and tight-budgeted to send a writer to the mansions or yachts on which their cover stars are dallying? Is it about celebrities attempting to keep more of their private lives private without missing out on press opportunities? Are publicists and managers wanting to keep a tighter control on what their star clients say to the media and how it's construed?

There's evidence supporting all of the above. It hardly takes sleuthing at this point to uncover the fact that print media is bleeding money. And The Weeknd's interview gave clues about the reasoning behind his email-only mandate: He cited annoying questions about his hair, his desire to maintain a sense of mystery and the claim that "the only thing the world demands of me is music."

maura, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:58 (six years ago) link

on the flip side, this would lead to an end of a) the writer describing what the celebrity ordered for lunch at the upscale hotel where they're conducting the interview (RIP truffle fry-gate) and b) male writers describing how hot their female interviewees are (RIP Neil Strauss-on-Jewel).

evol j, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link

Or just make the latter worse.

"I had regularly felt a stirring during my obsessive review of her selfies, and I admit when I was typing out the email questions, I only used one hand."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link

At our student newspaper we don't allow email interviews with administrators unless the editor in chief okays it, for obvious reasons, I think. I sympathize with The Weeknd's attitude if he means it. But he and the reporter can discuss the scope of the interview before it happens and come to an understanding (i.e. no questions about truffle fries, hair, etc).

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 14:08 (six years ago) link

you interview in person partly to catch their lies. but usually, who cares if celebrities lie?

j., Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

i think you answered your own question, maura - seems like this is the natural endpoint of publicists' powers to demand concessions increasing as print media's influence wanes

i'd imagine too that celebs are now so used to communicating with their audiences directly through social media that a significant proportion of them view interviews as anachronistic - in that case why not stick to communicating with journalists using text or email if that's what you're comfortable doing, and your publicist can swing it?

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link

oh that was cut and pasted from the link, sorry. but yeah, i think that's a big part of it

maura, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

"access" is a trap

maura, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

risk vs reward of an interview with harper's bazaar vs self managed instagram account not looking so hot these days

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

Would rather read an essay about The Weeknd (especially if it was called "Why The Weeknd Sucks") than an interview with his boring ass anyway. I mean, that's the other thing - the three people cited in the above blog entry (Ironclad Journalism Rule: Three Is A Trend) have always seemed like paralyzingly boring human beings whose opinions should mean basically nothing to anyone with two brain cells to rub together.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link

I thought we'd already decided all the interviews should be of Noel Gallagher.

evol j, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

imagine writing this story. how you'd feel about yourself.

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/839264/bbc-weather-bbc-breakfast-weather-report-Carol-Kirkwood-rain-shocks

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 August 2017 10:27 (six years ago) link

a recap of a weather report followed by some cut-and-pasted twitter comments

what the actual fuck

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 August 2017 10:33 (six years ago) link

xp I suspect that primary and secondary school teaching is going to mostly be a volunteer force in 20 years and work on an equivalent of the original Sunday School system in 30.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 11 February 2024 15:05 (two months ago) link

please consider teaching! media literacy is absolutely kicking our collective asses and we don't have enough people who understand it to teach kids about it

Teaching media literacy would have to be a stealth operation, because with the enshrinement of standard tests driving the entire curriculum these days there's not much space for anything else in a school day.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 11 February 2024 19:54 (two months ago) link

I disagree. It’s pretty easy to align lessons on media literacy with the common core. You are assessing their ability to make inferences and comprehend nonfiction texts.

treeship., Sunday, 11 February 2024 20:02 (two months ago) link

treesh, I know you're a smart and experienced enough teacher to control your own lessons in depth and make your teaching materials work for you rather than the other way around, but that is a high level and a difficult attainment. For a less experienced or committed teacher, the fact that most contemporary media are not consumed as nonfiction texts places a large constraint on their effectively teaching media literacy. Even more so, if the classroom materials are imposed rather than discretionary.

Anyway, I acknowledge your greater expertise on this, so if you think my perspective is insufficiently grounded, I'll accept your conclusions.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 11 February 2024 20:20 (two months ago) link


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