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Really not sure what I would want a great new Cure album to sound like tbh.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 24 March 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

Something good yet different would be nice

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 24 March 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

I will say that "Freakshhow" works much better than it should, especially live

Darth Icky (DJP), Sunday, 24 March 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not trying to sound controversial here, but, honestly, I don't really care for a new Cure album.

Then again, I believe that most bands are only good for a few albums, if that. There are very, very, very few bands with extensive discographies that release great record after great record. Put another way, there are few bands who've produced 'timeless' records. Especially since 'greatness' is just so susceptible to shift from period to period/generation to generation.

The Cure is a good example. But maybe it's because I'm no longer a big fan of them as I was before.

Even if they did something like 17 Seconds, which is my favourite album by them, it would seem they'd be doing it to please a crowd instead of authentically producing music, which is something I favour.

After Wish, I became disconnected with the band's music. I only like a few songs post-1992.

kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Sunday, 24 March 2013 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

I agree with you. I was being hypothetical.

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 24 March 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

I would never put it in my top 10 but I always say I would like them to release an album full of songs like Trap, ie non fussy guitar power pop

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 24 March 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

a post-Wish 'Best Tracks' poll is i'd something i'd like to see. i became very quickly disenchanted with them after their just-before Wild Mood Swings
set at Glastonbury 1995 which was the most turgid thing ever. have never bothered with them much since. once Porl was done with them, so was i.
am i missing much i wonder?

piscesx, Sunday, 24 March 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

once Porl was done with them, so was i.

you didn't come back when Porl came back?

Devendra Bumhat (sic), Monday, 25 March 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

I was at the '95 show. Not good.

OutdoorFish, Monday, 25 March 2013 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

a post-Wish 'Best Tracks' poll is i'd something i'd like to see.

this!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 25 March 2013 05:11 (eleven years ago) link

My favorite post-Wish songs:

Lost
Labyrinth
Want
Trap
Numb
The 13th
Going Nowhere
Spilt Milk
This Morning
The Scream
It's Over
Underneath the Stars
Out of this World
The Loudest Sound
The Last Day of Summer
The Promise
Adonis
Ocean
It Used To Be Me
All Kinds Of Stuff
The Real Snow White
The Hungry Ghost
Sleep When I'm Dead
Fake
Treasure
Bare
39
Watching Me Fall

Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 25 March 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

not really narrowing it down

here's a POV, in descending order of greatness

1) Watching Me Fall
2) 39
3) The Promise
4) Want
5) Labyrinth

delete (imago), Monday, 25 March 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

I always wanted them to release an album of songs like 'It's Not You' and 'Doubt'.

OutdoorFish, Monday, 25 March 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

Post-1992 songs that are okay:

Treasure
Bare
A Pink Dream
Maybe Someday
Bloodflowers (this one really doesn't do it for me, though)

Bloodflowers the album was one I almost got into, but did not stand the test of time. The WMS Robert Smith still seemed somewhat genuine (as genuine as Robert Smith could be in a theatrical kind of way), but by Bloodflowers, he was just a parody of his stereotypical self. I remember seeing his photos. Kind of felt sad for the man.

kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

Shit I forgot Home

Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

Here's the top 20 post-Wish tracks as voted in the ballot last year:

1. Burn
2. The 13th
3. Want
4. Watching Me Fall
5. (I Don't Know What's Going) On
6. The End Of The World
7. Mint Car
8. Lost
9. Before Three
10. Out of This World
11. Underneath The Stars
12. Jupiter Crash
13. Wrong Number
14. Cut Here
15. Gone!
16. 39
17. Labyrinth
18. Maybe Someday
19. Us or Them
20. The Promise

nate woolls, Monday, 25 March 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

After Wish, I became disconnected with the band's music. I only like a few songs post-1992.

Have they done anything truly worthwhile at all since Wish? Wild Mood Swings BROKE. MY. HEART. and I didn't listen to anything of theirs since then.

I was such a massive, massive fan and I was thrilled that they were releasing something new and I'd get to see them live after not getting to see them touring for Wish (I would have been at one of the shows where Show was filmed) and then I heard WMS.... I tried to learn to love it, and if I got high enough, Mint Car was all right, but overall it was just embarrassing and demoralizing.

I still went to see them live twice for that tour b/c I wasn't going to give up on them without a fight. The show in Nashville was amazing (at an amphitheater - opened with Plainsong, closed with Killing an Arab - beautiful thunderstorm during the show - they were full of energy, and even WMS tunes were pretty engaging), but the show at George Mason University in DC was beyond boring. Robert Smith laid down on his back and sang for a while, and it felt like he was going, meh, fuck it, rather than being transgressive or cheeky.

It would be interesting now to check out post WMS stuff, maybe. Though when I tried to listen to 4:13 Dream once, I had to stop after a couple tracks b/c it just seemed so hollow and false.

Je55e, Friday, 29 March 2013 03:54 (eleven years ago) link

I think I voted for The Top. Or Pornography, but pretty sure it was The Top. My first of their albums, and still one of my favorite records by any artist.

Je55e, Friday, 29 March 2013 03:55 (eleven years ago) link

There were some good shows on the WMS tour -- there's a good Paris bootleg floating around -- but yeah that wasn't a high point for the band. The three albums since plus all the scattered rarities and one-offs have been better! Though if you're not liking 4:13 then...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 March 2013 04:01 (eleven years ago) link

thanks everyone for your (heh) post-wish lists... I will make a playlist and see what's the what! I never even gave Wish a serious listen, really.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 29 March 2013 04:16 (eleven years ago) link

Ned, I just listened to The Perfect Boy and really liked it!

Well, the remix, but still.

But now I'm listening to The Same Deep Water As You. Baby steps.

Je55e, Friday, 29 March 2013 04:43 (eleven years ago) link

There are some good songs scattered here and there but I agree that stuff post WMS has always sounded pretty forced and inauthentic. I have the feeling that RS is ow incapable of coming up a song quickly and spontaneously anymore

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 29 March 2013 07:02 (eleven years ago) link

oh.. porl came back? hm. i guess no then as i had no idea.

piscesx, Friday, 29 March 2013 07:33 (eleven years ago) link

Wish has got this shoegazey feel/moments of loud wall-of-sound guitars, e.g., "Open", "Cut". They translated well live, e.g., the live album Show. But I always dug Play for Today's live versions that had the crowd chant 'ohhhh oh ohhhh oh ohhhh oh ohhh'

c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 29 March 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link


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