The Interior Life of Noel Gallagher: A Speculative History

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robbie williams as a fat karaoke singer from stoke

Lol
I know ppl that live in the uk have a lot of oasis baggage, but trust me if you live in the u.s. where they are no better remembered than like semisonic or gin blossoms these dudes are super hilarious and I wish they did interviews every day

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 23 March 2013 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

So do they.

bizarro gazzara, Sunday, 24 March 2013 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

This stuff writes itself!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21916688

Former Britpop rivals Noel Gallagher and Damon Albarn have buried the hatchet and performed together at a charity concert.

Oasis guitarist Gallagher joined Blur singer Albarn and his bandmate Graham Coxon at a Teenage Cancer Trust gig at the Royal Albert Hall in London.

Paul Weller completed the supergroup, who performed Blur's 1999 track Tender.

Oasis and Blur were famously engaged in a feud in the mid-1990s as the biggest bands of the Britpop era.

Noel Gallagher caused controversy when he said in 1995 that he hoped Albarn and Blur bassist Alex James would "catch Aids and die".

But Gallagher and Albarn have recently made peace. They shared a table at this year's Brit Awards, with Gallagher later saying they bonded over a dislike of boy band One Direction.

Neil S, Sunday, 24 March 2013 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

Ha ha ha these fuckin guys

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 March 2013 00:52 (eleven years ago) link

And I said ‘I’m sorry mate, I actually don’t.’

can vividly picture noel saying this. every expression - one eyebrow raised as he says 'sorry mate', flicker of a smirk round the edges of his mouth as he says 'don't'. eyes darting about, waiting expectantly for peals of laughter at yet another classic no-nonsense wit-drenched bon mot from the big noelly g

NI, Monday, 25 March 2013 00:57 (eleven years ago) link

not on topic but it is depressing as sin how noel has taken on the role of 'voice of the working class' when he's the ultimate NIMBY small c conservative. same goes for the enemy et al

NI, Monday, 25 March 2013 00:59 (eleven years ago) link

I know ppl that live in the uk have a lot of oasis baggage, but trust me if you live in the u.s. where they are no better remembered than like semisonic or gin blossoms these dudes are super hilarious and I wish they did interviews every day

― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, March 23, 2013 7:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

otm

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 25 March 2013 01:14 (eleven years ago) link

lol at the thought of nimby small c conservative not being the voice of the working class

mister borges (darraghmac), Monday, 25 March 2013 10:02 (eleven years ago) link

um ok. (is this more of that fabled darragh banter?)

NI, Monday, 25 March 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

if you mean warmed-up barely digested daily mail bollox then probably

The @glennbeck have raisin b-lls and rice crispy d-ck (stevie), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

Ha rein em in folks (or not, as the case may be i spose) but no, bantlessly i put forth the contention that blokey noel may be very much the voice of the working class. I can't figure out if it's his bantz or mine that are the warmed up daily mail bollox etc but i'm not sure it stands as solid refute in either case.

mister borges (darraghmac), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

More interior life, pls.

;)

schwantz, Monday, 25 March 2013 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

And I'd contend that's a pretty fucking narrow and clueless take on the "voice" of the working class tbh, but there you go eh? xp

The @glennbeck have raisin b-lls and rice crispy d-ck (stevie), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

Ha fine then, there is no 'voice of the working class' dry yr shorts. If there were it would certainly be a highly educated liberal but not in any paternalistic way.

Frustrated much btw? Just a message board thread about noel gallagher, working class boy done good.

mister borges (darraghmac), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

Xp fair enough schwantz

noel wondered why he couldnt be working class and rich and a bit tory all at the same time. Or why, being so, this made some people angry. It were all a bit strange, that.

mister borges (darraghmac), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

Noel lit a cigarette. "A real, proper fucking cigarette," he thought. "Not one of those poncey electronic jobs."

schwantz, Monday, 25 March 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

How long can you go without writing?
Oh, fuckin' 10 months. I don't chase it any more, doesn't bother me in the slightest. It only really dawns on me when I'm out with Weller. He'll say, "Have you written any songs recently?", and I'll say, "Actually no, I haven't." He'll say, "When was the last time you wrote?" and I'll say, "Oh fuck, nine months ago." We'll have an argument about that or something or other and he'll say, "Get your fuckin' finger out, you lazy …" – all that. From when I joined Oasis to when we became a real big, fuck-off band – when you fall into that cycle of album, tour, a year off, so it's once every three years – I was on a mission. All that Definitely Maybe, Morning Glory and Be Here Now stuff was all written while I was on the dole. After that other shit gets in the way, like going on tour for a year and a half. It slows you down a bit. It comes with age, kids: you don't get the time to devote to it any more.

When the band needed a first single you just went into a room and wrote "Supersonic".
That just appeared. We were doing "Bring It on Down" because Creation wanted it as the first single and it was just fuckin' rubbish. Instead of scrapping the session somebody said, "Just go and write a song." I had the chords and that, it was just magic, and I've never done it since. It was amazing, that night. I wrote the whole song in less than half an hour, recorded it and mixed it that night, played it to Creation and that was it – fuckin' hell, great.

Do you think in traditional structures when you're writing?
I only listen to music derived or from the 60s. I'm not interested in jazz or hip-hop or whatever's going round at the minute; indie shit. I don't loathe it but I don't listen to it. My education as a songwriter was from listening to the Kinks and the Who and the Beatles. I don't listen to avant-garde landscapes and think, "I could do that." I'm not a fan of Brian Eno. It's Ray Davies, John Lennon and Pete Townshend for me.

Where would that education take you? Was it listening and absorbing or thinking, "What's Ray Davies doing here?"
No, I'm not that clever. I would play along at home to "Dead End Street" and "Waterloo Sunset" but that's it. I taught myself to play the guitar; it's just a tool for me to write songs. I'm not a great guitarist. I don't study it. It frustrates me sometimes. I'll never be the super session guy: I can do sessions for Oasis. It would take all the magic out of it to break down "I Am the Walrus" to its basic components. I listen to it and go, "It's fucking amazing; why is it amazing? I don't know, it just is." That's why I find journalists such joyless fucking idiots. They have to break music down and pull it apart until there's nothing left, until they know it all; they analyse it down until it's bland nonsense. They don't listen to music like the rest of us.

Is it a default when you're stuck for ideas: rain, shine?
I'm not one of the world's greatest thinkers. Damon Albarn said this once in an interview: he can "see four black dudes playing cards in a pub in Notting Hill and write a symphony about it". I would see the same four black dudes and to me it's just four black dudes playing cards. It's just how you perceive things in life. I'm not a great reader of books; I'm not a great art lover. What I know is street life and street talk and football and drugs. I am probably the only songwriter in the entire world that hasn't written a song about 9/11.

OutdoorFish, Saturday, 7 September 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link

god, i find this bloke so entirely depressing

Ottworks SKG (stevie), Sunday, 8 September 2013 10:22 (ten years ago) link

He wasn't always like that but it sure explains why Oasis turned to utter shit once they discovered the Beatles and mythology.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 8 September 2013 10:45 (ten years ago) link

it's all awful then he gives you that damon quote which almost is worse.

Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Sunday, 8 September 2013 11:01 (ten years ago) link

i can't find any source for the damon quote other than noel, so i'm not massively convinced that's what he said or, you know, at least how he said it?

Ottworks SKG (stevie), Sunday, 8 September 2013 11:09 (ten years ago) link

I am probably the only songwriter in the entire world that hasn't written a song about 9/11.

don't think i've ever heard anyone mention a song about 9/11, ever.

Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Sunday, 8 September 2013 11:25 (ten years ago) link

Neither has Noel probably

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 8 September 2013 11:52 (ten years ago) link

McCartney has done it. Springsteen has done it. Neil Young has done it. These are Noel's peers tbf

Number None, Sunday, 8 September 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link

in his dreams

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 8 September 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link

Oasis turned to utter shit once they discovered the Beatles

So... before they started Oasis, then? Sounds about right.

emil.y, Sunday, 8 September 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link

my thoughts exactly

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 8 September 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

Depressing, I wasn't sure about him after escaping the bubble of Oasis but it seems his perspective if anything has narrowed rather than the other way

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 8 September 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link

Gallagher's a churl who isn't worth a moment's attention but i want to say as a side note that i don't think a gleeful eclecticism of influence is necessarily better for an artist than a handful of fixed references. a creative imagination doesn't need a vast range of inputs - they just need to be creative and imaginative.

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link

agreed - though purposefully blinkering oneself from anything that's not white and holding a guitar and from the 60s probably is a strong indicator that said artist is unlikely to be creative or imaginative.

Ottworks SKG (stevie), Sunday, 8 September 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

It doesn't seem to occur to Noel that even his boring old moth-eaten heroes were not as incurious and ignorant about music as he is, albeit as shit and boring as they are.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Sunday, 8 September 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

I'm not interested in jazz or hip-hop or whatever's going round at the minute; indie shit.

not sure what's going on w/ the punctuation here but I like to think that he's bracketing jazz and hip-hop as "indie shit"

many a slip 'twixt Yow and Yip (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 8 September 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link

Hey guys have you taken a second to contemplate how horrific Noel's jazz or hip hop influenced music would be?

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 8 September 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link

There was some experimentation: "D'You Know What I Mean?" contains a slowed down loop from N.W.A.'s "Straight Outta Compton",[17] while "Magic Pie" features psychedelically arranged vocal harmonies and a mellotron. According to Noel, "All I did was run my elbows across the keys and this mad jazz came out and everyone laughed."[18]

many a slip 'twixt Yow and Yip (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 8 September 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link

"All I did was run my elbows across the keys and this mad jazz came out and everyone laughed"

That's probably a result of Goldie giving him some advice.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Sunday, 8 September 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link

imagining him going out for a piss straight after that and everyone else in the studio sort of looking at each other and all wanting to broach the subject of when are we going to stop being so craven and just tell him that his ideas are terrible and this wasn't "mad jazz" but the sound that anyone would make if they ran their elbows across a keyboard but all of them also knowing that this is a great life and why do anything that would even moderately dent it

many a slip 'twixt Yow and Yip (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 8 September 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link

That is probably the closest to the bone post on here in terms of Noel's True Interior Life.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Sunday, 8 September 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link

"I am probably the only songwriter in the entire world that hasn't written a song about 9/11."

have to admit he's making his best case for himself here

goole, Monday, 9 September 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

anything that's not white and holding a guitar and from the 60s

hey now he did rip off Stevie Wonder that one time. Gary Glitter/T.Rex aren't really from the 60s either

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 September 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link

we're never going to hear the AA vs noel album are we.
he seems to have withdrawn back into his comfort cave.
shame, as i was really looking forward to that.

mark e, Monday, 9 September 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

yeah, still we will always have that 12" of 'Falling 4own" anyway

Mark G, Monday, 9 September 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link

i find him pretty sympathetic in that interview? seems like a guy who's aware of his limitations and interests.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 9 September 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link

he likes beefheart!

fit and working again, Monday, 9 September 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

it's the natural next step after a life eating blood sausage

Number None, Monday, 9 September 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link

seems like a guy who's aware of his limitations and interests.

yeah but 15 years ago he was all "hip-hop is the bestest" and four years ago as m e notes he was all "fuck an Oasis, I'm doing this album with FSOL," and

ᕦ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕤ (sic), Monday, 9 September 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

I remember him raving about drum n bass and taking e

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 9 September 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

I know he's said stupid things and has made a lot of bad bad music but I can't help finding him pretty funny in interviews...
he seems pretty laidback and cool for a "rockstar".
can't hate the guy !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link

In a way, I prefer his down to earth/basic approach to music etc to bands/artists trying hard to pretend they're forward looking, artsy, conceptual or whatever.
it doesn't mean it makes me want to listen to what he produces, though !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link

how do you pretend to be forward-looking, artsy, conceptual? copy your music off Wikipedia the day before it's due to be handed in?

Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link

"at least i am real not like the class swot who nicked a Kursaal Flyers riff then stuck some quote by David Tudor on it"

Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link


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