Rolling 'this is sexist' thread

the idiom 'take a joke' is pretty vulgar + offensive

Kevin, read your own fucking post!

Sounds like the worst thing ever xxp

Take a joke = bantz, no?

ah you're right. he said he'd fork a guy's repo. that's a pretty sexist i guess

special guest pycon performance by mc nerdlinger nintendo

Otm

could someone rekindle the argument? i just finished my work but i have to stay for another 40 mins or so. ideally with everyone assuming traditional ilx roles to keep things simple.

lol

i don't care enough to really get involved this go around tbh - others are more than capable of filling my role i think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doz5w2W-jAY

hope this helps

yeah i'm not particularly enjoying playing mordy in this adaptation but the story is sufficiently ridiculous.

tbh, this woman should be awarded the nobel peace prize for not swinging on an IRL xkcd cartoon screeching dick jokes

the language python is named after monty python. the conference is just named after the language.

xxp that's how i ALWAYS feel

The language is reallllly named after Monty python, like the homage is pretty deep, so I'm wondering if juvenile humor was more in the air than say at javaone

um i can't tell if i'm being trolled here? python devs tend to be younger and less big corporate and more startupy but that has like nothing to do with the genetic origins of the name of the language, and everything to do with where that language tends to be used. i've heard python conferences have reputations of being pretty chill affairs actually, especially when compared to what was reputedly the rampant dickishness in the ruby community. but as a whole, culturally, this is more about startup-land and not than anything else, i suspect.

lol java was named after coffee i wonder if at javaone everyone is jittery!

Pretty much

take this joke and shove it

how bout that dude who sparked up a bowl in the middle of pycon, eh?

I lolled at that, too

developers are really idiots

Anti developer language itt really sickening now tbh

I'm just saying if you told me at pycon that there were silly walk contests and Spanish Inquisition cosplay, it wouldn't be totally unexpected.

Yeah I have no problem believing that literally every person at this thing including the offended woman has a fucking terrible sense of humour

(python is really huge in scientific computing now btw. a fair number of the people doing that stuff are really impressive.)

if richards had interrupted dongle guy by yelling
STOP
GIMME A BEAT
and launched into Nasty Boys, a lot fewer people would've been fired
we have learned nothing from the 1980s

I don't think the world is ready for a Python conference attempting to recreate the "Nasty" video

at least give the local emergency rooms a heads-up before doing this

this shit will be on funny or die by next week, don't front

"Among other findings, an Ohio State University study found that graduate students rated research abstracts as having greater “scientific quality” when they thought the abstracts were written by men."

http://www.scilogs.com/communication_breakdown/gender-bias-study-2013/

http://www.complex.com/tech/2013/03/the-40-hottest-women-in-tech/

lol straight trollin

douse complex.com in gasoline and set it on fire imho

^^^

I clicked through to the first entry because I was thinking "well maybe they are trolling by setting this up as a cheesecake list and then they're going to riff off of the nonsexual definition of "hottest" and then the first picture loaded and I was basically like "lol gtfo *clicks back, hopes no one was looking at my cube*"

complex.com is basically justdudethings right?

I have trouble expressing just how angry the pervasive, unexamined misogyny in my field makes me.

I have trouble expressing just how angry the pervasive, unexamined misogyny in my field makes me.

― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Friday, March 22, 2013 12:12 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was assigned to write the 50 Hottest Women in Tech by Complex and it really bummed me out, because the idea of perpetrating the same old gender divisions in an area like tech - which has predominantly been a boy's club throughout history - seemed like kind of a messed up thing to do. It represents the most banal form of internet content that exists. But it's hard to say no to a paycheck.

So what I tried to do was see if it was possible to make something called "The 50 Hottest Women in Tech" earnest and empowering and an actual good thing. I pretty much only included normal looking women, who were involved in something really crucial or exciting in the tech space. I made no allusions to their looks in the blurbs, and ended up with simply a long list of very exciting women.

Of course when the piece actually ran, I discovered that over half of the women I had included were replaced with people like Morgan Webb, complete with the usual lascivious dialogue. Sigh. It's hard to win when you're writing for Complex, but please know that I tried.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjce0c
https://twitter.com/luke_winkie

how bout that dude who sparked up a bowl in the middle of pycon, eh?

You mean the dude who also shouted "you're the hottest" at a woman presenting a talk, while being so drunk he claims not to remember shouting or bowl-sparking, and whose official explanation-of-banning only mentions the bowl-sparking?

Bcz I happen to find "you're the hottest" approx six billion times more offensive than dongle innuendos. This may be because I have never been hot but I was 13 for a while.

(declines to click on complex.com link because I think I've been angry enough this week already)

dude's name is winkie, i just want to point that out (no dongle)

lol

just really lol to me since it's p obvious that the higher ups at complex were like, how can we get hits this week... *sees adria richards controversy* *assigns 50 hottest women in tech piece to underling*

I remember going on some weekend school trip where my dad was chaperoning when I was in junior high; I started a "what girls do you think are hot?" conversation that he quickly shut down because it was a bunch of thirteen-year-olds being gross and pervy. I responded with "ok then, what cars do you think are hot?" and got yelled at in front of a bunch of my classmates and told to go to sleep.

Looking back, the takeaways were:

- We were incapable of making a distinction between talking about an entire gender and talking about inanimate masse objects and whenever my thoughts get too icky, I remember that confrontation and wonder how I would feel as the object of a Mandingo conversation.
- My dad really wanted to get some sleep that night.

Also can someone point out to Mr. Winkie that specifically excluding attractive women is just as problematic as explicitly perving over them?

^

i don't know this dude but it reads like he just wanted to focus on people who weren't uncanny valley.

oh winkiepaws

you've been on fire since you got married, dude

<333333 CHRIS

I'm gonna put it out there: if you like it, you can take it; if you don't, send it right back: Who is the sexiest woman on this board?

i have no clue how this sort of blog industry works or what, but the "don't blame me, i tried, blame editorial" excuse feels kinda weak on its face. could he have "tried" harder? is it possible to say to his editor "no, i don't want to / would prefer not to write that because it's gross" or were his hands tied and how firmly?