itt we talk about Enlightened on HBO, seasons 1-1000000

according to white s3 would've been her dealing with all the lawsuits

oh that would have been so great.

Just watched the finale. I'm glad Eileen seems to want to give Tyler another chance. May be a good place to end, as long as MW continues to produce shows.

I don't think a season of law suit action would be very involving, tbh.

i preferred the slower pace of the first season actually. loved the dreamy episodes most of all.

How would we diagnose Amy Jellicoe?

why would you want to

why would you want to

How would we diagnose Amy Jellicoe?

― Leon Septamost, Friday, September 6, 2013 12:59 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

with science?

The show is about a protagonist who is suffering from some undefined mental illness, and I thought it'd be interesting to speculate about what, precisely, the fuck is wrong with her. And more to the point she reminds me a lot of my ex-girlfriend. So what is it? Manic depression? Borderline personality disorder? Extreme narcissist? Or just a good old fashioned fuck up?

nothing?

i think she is suffering from a condition called ~lyfe~

i really i don't think there's anything to support the idea that the character was written to have a specific mental illness or disorder. she's written as exceptionally human with deep flaws, lots of sorrow and anger, and some troubling behavioral issues, but she's also capable of deep insight, compassion, faith, and courage.

I agree about her positive traits. That's what makes her so interesting. She is also on and off psych medications, has no impulse control, and is that person about whom everyone says "Oh shit, here she comes". I haven't seen season two, but watching her struggle, sometimes obliviously, through season one I wondered what particular blend of disorder causes her ongoing self defeat.

I agree that we don't really need to diagnose her with anything, but she is pretty histrionic, if you wanna play that.

I just power watched the first two seasons and on the last two eps; this is absolutely amazing tv. wanna finish and then throw in my own two cents once i read the thread.

It's obvious why this didn't get renewed but damn, what a crime.

We just started this a couple of nights ago and are already into the second season. I feel that I may have unfairly dismissed Mike White after not being super crazy about Chuck & Buck because the writing here is amazing. And Laura Dern is amazing. And Diane Ladd is amazing, and I think the episode where she quietly wanders around the house seeing flashes of her past was one of the more amazing episodes of television that I've ever seen (and a perfect distillation of showing without telling).

Realizing that I never reported back to mention that this was easily the best show I've seen in several years. Such a shame it hit the skids so soon.

Anyway, I rewatched the first episode the other night and it occurred to me how perfect it would be to play the Golden Girls theme over a montage of Amy and Krista's awkward interactions, naturally culminating in scenes from Krista's baby shower.

There's a theater up here where one can kludge together a Mike White doubleheader of BEATRIZ AT DINNER and THE EMOJI MOVIE (he's one of three people credited as a writer on the later; the other two are the movie's, uh, masterminds)

whatever show you think is good is not actually as good as this show

^^^

Well, yeah.

I mean this might be in the all-time top ten for me. Insanely underrated/underdiscussed.

rewatching my favorite show :D

thread title makes me sad :(

anyone else watching the White Lotus, first ep was intriguing, same feeling as Enlightened where I have no idea where this show is going

seriously phenomenal so far, where are my Mike White heads at

only watched 1st ep and i was v into it!

Watched ep 1 just now and liked it, based on your (Murg) rec, and I like Mike White.

1st ep was great.

Yeah, I'm digging this. Not much of consequence has happened and I have no idea where it's going yet (and no idea what the elevator pitch could've possibly been), but I appreciate its slow unfolding. I can't imagine it lasting more than a single season (at least unless it becomes a sort of anthology) but I'll take what I can get while I get it.

it's a six-ep limited series

Ah, that makes sense. Unfortunately brief but understandable.

Oh also this show premiering prompted me to finally buy the Enlightened DVDs, only to discover that it's not just out of print but so out of print that new copies are scarce even on the secondary market. Such a shame, that show is just gonna be unceremoniously swallowed up by time.

thank u past self for buying them on sale at HMV

I KNOW A LOT OF RICH WHITE FUCKED-UP PEOPLE

As a meditation on service industry it feels pretty sharp thus far

this is a pretty great turn of events

absolutely thrilled to report that this man has a star turn in the white lotus...living well is the best revenge!!!! https://t.co/YjNc64CnwF

— rachel syme (@rachsyme) July 19, 2021

What's bizarre about that is dude's apartment seems... fine? Like, I make a good living and that's pretty much what my Zoom background looks like, what is the great shame supposed to be here?

watched 2 episodes tonight. A+ amazing.

in addition to everything else that's great about the show, Cristobal Tapia de Veer is just doing exceptional work for the soundtrack

agreed. probably overdue for a devoted thread imo.

wait, for the show or for the composer?

bc neither would make much sense as its own thread tbh imo

The former

ehh I don't see any point in making a thread for a show that's done in three weeks but if you want to make one, knock yrself out

i am starting to think maybe i dont like this show as much as i thought i did but cant pinpoint why

it's a little mean and occasionally gross and it was a lot moreso this episode, though i am still trying to give it good faith interpretation until we get a bit further down the path. Coolidge is clearly a tragic character whose pain is being played for occasionally cheap laughs but her general presumption of power makes it unclear whether using her as an exemplar of rich white lady is punching up or not.

britton's character is pretty underwritten thus far and her daughter is a weird question mark. but i am compelled!

I experience the characters on this show as real people much much more than in most other shows I watch, not sure how much of this is down to good acting and how much to writing (and I except the characters played for laffs like coolidge's and to some extent the hotel manager)

Murray Bartlett is really fantastic, was not familiar with him

I feel like somebody told him "Basil Fawlty but sympathetic, go"

my feelings about that show obviously changed after that post, and I'm more comfortable now with the ambiguity with which White treats his characters.

i loved this show, tempted to rewatch to see how MY feelings have changed

S1 e4 is good, Luke Wilson does coke in a motel and tells a long loud story about a dog jumping into a lake, then Laura dern hugs a pillow and starts crying

haven't watched in forever but i do remember those luke wilson scenes playing a key role in making the whole show feel more light and floaty and surreal. so much more nuanced and hard to pin down than white lotus

TIL mike white is the guy across from Dern at her work lol

also really enjoyed robin wright as hippie friend