Rolling 'this is sexist' thread

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but on AIM i'm privileged1

mister borges (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 March 2013 08:41 (eleven years ago) link

No, definitely awesome - there are overreactions all over the place (see as noted the comments to this and everything), it's awesome to see one pointing in the right direction.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 21 March 2013 10:19 (eleven years ago) link

Thats not how shitty overreaction aggregation works imo but i can see the point

mister borges (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 March 2013 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

I and two other dad associates got called "wimpy" today by a female partner for wanting to be able to see our kids every day. Like I said, I'm glad that the older generation is going to die.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

have you ever seen the tv show Damages, Hurting?

☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

Should tweet her obv

mister borges (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

;)

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

I and two other dad associates got called "wimpy" today by a female partner for wanting to be able to see our kids every day. Like I said, I'm glad that the older generation is going to die.

― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:00 AM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ugh.

how's life, Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah sickens me to see that type of ageism on ilx

mister borges (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 March 2013 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

Okay, so apparently Adria's workplace has been subject to vengeful DDoS attacks and now they've fired HER. What the...?

emil.y, Thursday, 21 March 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

jesus christ

Darth Icky (DJP), Thursday, 21 March 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

yeah just saw that, but I'm wondering if it might be fake? Just really hard for me to believe a company would be stupid enough to fire her over this.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Thursday, 21 March 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/breaking-adria-richards-fired-by-sendgrid-for-outting-developers-on-twitter/

Does mention the possibility that the SendGrid twitter could've been hacked.

emil.y, Thursday, 21 March 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

what the fuck is going on

Heyman (crüt), Thursday, 21 March 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

(haha no i love this thread and everyone's RATIONALITY in it; yesterday i had an Incident Of Being Called Sexist and i was smarting a little bit)

maura, Thursday, 21 March 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

Was it mentioned in this thread that she was making dick jokes on Twitter a couple of days before this?:

https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/312265091791847425

‏@skwashd
I made it to US and A. I've received my traditional TSA welcoming - having my nuts fondled.

@adriarichards
@skwashd you should put something in your pants next time...like a bunch of socks inside one...large...sock. TSA agent faint

Walter Galt, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

It has been mentioned *repeatedly* by tiring assholes who don't seem to understand the difference between a twitter feed and a conference. And I say this as someone who supports dongle jokes.

emil.y, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

What does that have to do with anything other than prove the point that there is a context where off-color remarks are acceptable and one where they aren't?

xp: what emil.y said OTM

Darth Icky (DJP), Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

Fair enough. My issue with this thing, anyway, is that I don't think it's okay to take a direct picture of someone without their permission unless they're maybe in the act of committing a crime. I see that as a much greater violation of safety & privacy.

Walter Galt, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

i just think it's hilarious that her lame blog has cloudfare and is doing a decent job of fending off the DDOS while sendgrid is nuked.

sanskrit, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

sanskrit also OTM

Darth Icky (DJP), Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

DDoS attacks are so lame and petty.

Heyman (crüt), Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

welcome to the patriarchy, I guess.

Heyman (crüt), Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think it's okay to take a direct picture of someone without their permission unless they're maybe in the act of committing a crime. I see that as a much greater violation of safety & privacy.

― Walter Galt, Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

lol do u ever go outside then

乒乓, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

Pig people are out in force on this comments thread: https://www.facebook.com/SendGrid/posts/10151502570463967

DavidM, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

new face of corporate america. just keep your head down. if anyone mentions you for any reason ever -- chop.

s.clover, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

'T____ H___ Check ur privieledge.

Mordy, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

the difference between a twitter feed and a conference.

Thinking on this for a second - neither of these things is cut and dry at all. Very public conversation viewable to tens of thousands vs. overheard private conversation, etc.

Walter Galt, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

i hope everyone involved sues everyone else involved until all the companies go bankrupt and their vcs go bankrupt and the banks that funded anyone go bankrupt and then a cleansing fire comes and burns babylon, burns it clean.

s.clover, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

lol do u ever go outside then
― 乒乓, Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:18 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't get what you mean. I'm talking about taking direct photos of strangers. I see so many pics on Twitter and elsewhere where the poster has taken a pic of someone who looks funny on the tube or whatever - I think it's a serious asshole move.

Walter Galt, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

i didn't know 'developer evangelist' was a kind of job now but apparently it is, perhaps that can go in the cleansing fire too

j., Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

Can we please stop mischaracterizing this as if she happened to overhear dude's gross jokes? According to her account, which was not disputed by the dude making the jokes, she was talking to one dude about how they both wished they were getting more out of that particular session, at which point the dude who got fired chimed in with his "I'd fork his repo!" joke, which set off this whole thing.

Darth Icky (DJP), Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

Walter, twitter is a place generally accepted as a tool for frivolous chatter, that conference was a professional environment with written rules about acceptable behaviour.

Also, it's been made clear that it wasn't an overheard private conversation.

GODDAMMIT I LIKE DONGLE JOKES STOP FORCING ME TO SHOW WHY THEY'RE NOT OKAY.

emil.y, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think it's okay to take a direct picture of someone without their permission unless they're maybe in the act of committing a crime. I see that as a much greater violation of safety & privacy.

― Walter Galt, Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

wonder if any of these people rising up in favor of the right for dudes to be all cartman-on-maury look at reddit's creepshots threads

maura, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

dongle dude got off light imo. should've been executed as a cultural enemy.

Mordy, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

wonder if any of these people rising up in favor of the right for dudes to be all cartman-on-maury look at reddit's creepshots threads

I don't know what either of the things in the second half of that sentence means.
I think the characterisation of Twitter as "a place generally accepted as a tool for frivolous chatter" is some bullshit.
I think the guy's an asshole for making a joke like that to someone he didn't know. I think she's an asshole for taking a picture of someone she didn't know. I guess that's it.

Walter Galt, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/20/playhaven-developer-fired-for-making-sexual-jokes-after-sendgrids-developer-evangelist-outs-him-on-twitter/#Twsrfa4DheaGtsBE.99

"While I did make a big dongle joke about a fictional piece hardware that identified as male, no sexual jokes were made about forking. My friends and I had decided forking someone’s repo is a new form of flattery, the highest form being implementation, and we were excited about one of the presenters projects; a friend said “I would fork that guys repo.” The sexual context was applied by Adria, and not us."

that IS a pretty good joke about flattery

j., Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

I think the characterisation of Twitter as "a place generally accepted as a tool for frivolous chatter" is some bullshit.

Why?

emil.y, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

playhaven builds a "mobile game ltv maximization platform" to "control your monetization."

sendgrid manages semi-spam email 'newsletter' services for marketing.

ok, sexism bad. but on a broader level, these companies need to be herded into that part of California that will fall into the ocean when the big earthquake hits.

s.clover, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

Why?

People losing their jobs over dumb shit on twitter ain't unprecedented.

tsrobodo, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

dongle dude got off light imo. should've been executed as a cultural enemy.

― Mordy, Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:30 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol elmo if u don't want hostilities stop writing passive aggressive stupid strawman nonsense shit like "itt i learned that developing nations don't produce artists, thx mordy"

― Mordy, Thursday, March 21, 2013 11:34 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

dongle dude got off light imo. should've been executed as a cultural enemy, thx phil.

Mordy, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

People losing their jobs over dumb shit on twitter ain't unprecedented.

That doesn't actually address my question, but thanks anyway.

emil.y, Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

I find precedents to be a very important metric in careful evaluation regarding arbitrary human resources decisions of fuckwit employers.

s.clover, Thursday, 21 March 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

That doesn't actually address my question, but thanks anyway.

Hey, I'm just guessing. Twitter is pretty much frivolous by definition but if you were arguing otherwise the blurred lines between professional/personal would be a likely angle.

tsrobodo, Thursday, 21 March 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

Lot of people coming to the sexist threads based on a misreading of the title, just looking for some fellow feeling. Why do we have to be so cruel to them?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 21 March 2013 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

I'd feel a fellow. Haven't done that since college, but hey what the heck

how's life, Thursday, 21 March 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

@sendgrid supports me

free username up for grabs

sanskrit, Thursday, 21 March 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

OK I might've been outed as a tool of the patriarchy y/day when I thought it was a slight mountain-out-of-molehill situation but now it's a fucking mountain chain. only solution I can see is to execute everyone who has ever worked in IT. lying on the block right now, peace out guys

susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 21 March 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

:(

Jeff, Thursday, 21 March 2013 19:28 (eleven years ago) link


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