the totally insane true story behind the 1970s film and book Sybil

Chessie? Like Nessie, but it plays chess?

the Nessie of Chesapeake Bay iirc

there is also one in Lake Champlain, Champie

Is there a thread on local monsters (Mothman, Jersey Devil, Chessie)? I think I want to start one if their isn't. I love that crap.

Couple of threads that are relevant...

Charles Fort (and the Strange Things That Fell From The Sky)
Does the Loch Ness Monster really exist?
Unexplained Mysteries and Phenomena - S/D
Do You Believe in the Orang Pendek?

I would like to think Paul Bunyan counts as a local monster

Thanks, Elvis Telecom! Those are good, but not quite right. I will start a Local Monsters/Your Favorite Cryptid thread after dinner.

And yes, Chessie is the Chesapeake Bay's own giant water monster.

Did you start a local monsters thread? Link?

WHOOPS NO I FORGOT

*bangs desk* DAMMIT CARL

in cult-related news, i would like to recommend the movie "the sound of my voice" to anyone who enjoys cult movies. the plot is pretty slight, and not without holes/problems, but brit marling's portrayal of a future cult leader is super memorable and she kinda reminded me of daryl hannah if splash was about a mermaid cult instead of a romance or whatever the f it was.

was splash a comedy? rom com? i have no idea.

I did not consider this Darryl Hannah angle but I approve

did you see it? she was really good! i liked her other movie aaaaalright but she was way better as an actress in this one

also somehow with absolutely no intervention from me hattie dorsett has made it onto a list of great villains

I did! I thought it was pretty enjoyable, and I'm glad I actually caught it in the theater.

Have you seen Beyond the Black Rainbow, LL? It's very plot-lite in that it's mostly visual and works through a lot of 70s/80s sci-fi and horror tropes but it features an imprisoned girl and esoteric cultish types so I feel it's vaguely thread-relevant.

gonna read everything on Dan's list! In fact, he has even made me want to reread Hyperion which is no small feat considering how much I remember hating it. (tbf to Simmons, I read it while I was recovering from massive abdominal surgery at age 21 so he didn't rly get a fair hearing...)

i haven't seen BTBR yet -- i know i should. sometimes plot-lite works for me and other times it doesn't. i don't like movies that are basically tumblr photo shoots that go on for 2 hours, but this one sounds a little different?

i have also never read hyperion or even tried! +1 to you for even trying.

i was a book devourer then, like 20x faster than I am today

movies that are basically tumblr photo shoots that go on for 2 hours

thread needed!

I read Hyperion in a college science fiction class! I think that there's a second book that finishes a lot of the plot arcs, and then several other books I've been told are completely inessential.

That is a good list. I've never read Hyperion but I like Dan Simmons's other stuff.

Confession: I never finished Drood.

Me, neither. I got it out of the library and two weeks wasn't enough time to get through that monster. I'm going to get it on Kindle one of these days.

I never finished it on the Kindle! I just wasn't really into it at the time. Like many things, I think I appreciated the description of it more than the book (album/movie/experience/whatever) itself.

I never finished it either. Later I found it at a library sale for 50 cents.

hello ilx scandal enthusiasts -- is there a current discussion of the amanda barry/cleveland/hostage situation going down anywhere on ilx? i am hungry for news and i only have like 1 hr of computer time per day (not because i'm being held hostage in a boarded up rust belt house, thank goodness) i heard about it on the radio on my way into work and now i want updates.

LL, follow these folks on Twitter for the best updates I've seen:

https://twitter.com/ScottTaylor19
https://twitter.com/WEWS

Two years ago we had Antony Sowell, now we have a women-held-prisoner story, Cleveland really stepping it up on the crazy people front.

Jesus the updates on Scott Taylor's twitter from 2h ago to present...

thx! i heard about it on the radio on my way to work and thought that Onil was O'Neil (lol NEOH) and that Berry was Barry and the whole thing seemed really confusing

i feel kinda gross for being so interested but it's not exactly out of character, plus cleveland!

ok now that i've read scott taylor's updates whoa omg it's way more awful than i thought
so glad they got out
bad news for castros and bus drivers

the son of one the kidnappers wrote an article about Gina for the Plain Dealer, back in 2004 when she went missing

"Hey bro," Ramsey tells the 911 operator. "Check this out. I just came from McDonald's right? So I'm on my porch eating my little food, right? This broad is trying to break out the f-----g house next door to me, so there's a bunch of people on the street right now and s--t. So we're like, 'What's wrong, what's the problem?' She's like, 'This m--------r done kidnapped me and my daughter... She said her name is Linda Berry or some s--t. I don't know who the f--k that is, I just moved over here bro. You know what I mean?"

He then answers the 911 operator's questions about the woman, what she looks like, and what she's wearing.

Ramsey tells the operator an address which he says corresponds to Berry's location, not Ramsey's home address. "I'm smarter than that bro. I'm telling you were the crime was, not my house," he says.

"Are the people that she said did this, are they still in the house?" the 911 operator asks.

"I don't have a f-----g clue, bro. Like I said, I just came from McDonald's."

The operator then asks him to check whether Berry needs an ambulance.

"She needs everything. She's in a panic, bro. She's been kidnapped, so, you know, put yourself in her shoes."

"We'll send the police out," the operator responds.

xp - like an editorial?

no, he interviewed the DeJesus family. it was an article for a journalism class he was taking at Bowling Green.

wtf

it was about how the neighborhood had changed since her disappearance

that is really bizarre

do you have some kind of link brownie? the plain dealer archives don't seem to go back that far

when did they find all of those dead prostitutes in cleveland? that was awful.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22437074

don't have the actual article. lol at the BBC tho, "Plain Press"

What's secondarily breaking my heart is a little article about how other family's of kidnapped girls are now hopeful that their children will be found. :( I mean, the odds are so strongly against it, you know?

xp - hey at least there's a lol to be had here right?

xpost the actual article is linked in the BBC one. I thought it was the plain dealer but there really is a Plain Press

BBC 1
Brownie 0

I also hope Michelle Knight gets some serious $$$ in a civil lawsuit against the Cleveland PD. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/05/michelle_knight_plagued_by_tro.html

I'm finding that entire article incredibly upsetting, so fair warning to anybody feeling touchy today.

Cleveland -3
AGAIN

Amanda Berry's mother, who died while she was in captivity, went on the Montel Williams show in 2004 to talk to walking shitpile Sylvia Browne, who told her her daughter was dead:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/07/sylvia-browne-amanda-berry-cleveland

ty brownie

it's interesting that after 10 years amanda seemed very clear about her identity and the complete fucked up horribleness of her situation, unlike jaycee dugard and some other people who've been kept like this.

interesting and hopeful and positive i guess (i hope)

motherfucker! this is crazy

like

holy shit

hey bro, check this out