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xp - oops I meant: is this STILL a thing?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 13:04 (eleven years ago) link

this sounds good but pluralizing "bloodsport" is simply terrible

not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

pluralising sport is simply terrible

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

It should be pluralized "spurts."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

Bloodspurts.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

bloodsports is usually plural isn't it? (at least in UK)

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

Bloodmaths.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

Joining the chorus of this being surprising good.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

ditto. Not sure about the final couple of tracks though, give me more like 'it starts and ends with you'

kinder, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

The only negative is that Suede remain the band most likely to make you think your speakers are fucked. Someone should have turned the reverb down just a notch.

― Eyeball Kicks, Monday, March 18, 2013 9:09 PM (4 days ago)

I've also never heard such a bad mastering job. The clipping on tracks 8 and 10, especially, is nuts.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 22 March 2013 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

PLEASE SAY HELLO TO YOUR DRUMMER
HE WAS CONSISTENTLY LOVELY WITH ME

is the drummer the gay one?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

is the drummer the gay one?

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, March 22, 2013 3:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yup!

Still very much enjoying this album!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 22 March 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

consistently lovely with me

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

I've got two of the bonus tracks, but the Japanese-only one and the 7" single tracks are still out there...somewhere.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

The clipping on tracks 8 and 10, especially, is nuts.

Do you mean that the recording is distorted? I should revisit those tracks and check it out. Not sure what you mean though.

MikoMcha, Saturday, 23 March 2013 10:01 (eleven years ago) link

The recording is distorted, yes, because it has been mastered to be too loud. Clipping sounds like crackling, not so different from your speakers being fucked or the noise you get when the reception on a radio isn't so great.

On track 8, What Are You Not Telling Me?, the crackling is worst from 2:23 to 2:40, but it's all over the track and other tracks.

Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 23 March 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

this got me listening to Dog Man Star again - Christ that record is nearly perfect

not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 23 March 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

The recording is distorted, yes, because it has been mastered to be too loud. Clipping sounds like crackling, not so different from your speakers being fucked or the noise you get when the reception on a radio isn't so great.

On track 8, What Are You Not Telling Me?, the crackling is worst from 2:23 to 2:40, but it's all over the track and other tracks.

― Eyeball Kicks

Yeah I noticed it on this song too, thought it was just the download I had. I am away from my CD's at the moment so can't compare it against a real copy.

Sad to see this album is looking like missing the top ten in the album chart. Album sales are so low at the moment I thought this would chart a lot higher. If the The courteeners can shift almost 30,000 copies of their album I thought Suede would easily be able to do the same.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 24 March 2013 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

Still proud of calling Dog Man Stae my fave of 1994.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 March 2013 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

Same here and that really was a great year for albums.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 24 March 2013 03:05 (eleven years ago) link

Sheer magnificence at Nottingham Rock City last night. Nine new songs - including the three closing ballads, played live for the first time - and nine old ones. Nothing from Head Music (or from A New Morning, which goes without saying really). B-side treat: Killing Of A Flash Boy, during which Brett was mobbed and sank from view for most of the song. Set opened with the first three tracks from Bloodsports, which worked very well indeed; Barriers is ideal as a set-starter, and It Starts And Ends With You induced actual shivers (surprising, but spines don't lie). Main set closed with Trash & Beautiful Ones; shit was duly lost. Encore closed with New Generation. Fucking hell they were good.

mike t-diva, Friday, 29 March 2013 12:53 (eleven years ago) link

(I reviewed it for the paper, but it's vulgar to link to your own reviews, so I won't.)

mike t-diva, Friday, 29 March 2013 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

(But here's a photo from last night: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/150423_580979511915190_628883679_n.jpg )

mike t-diva, Friday, 29 March 2013 12:59 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, no! But I agree with the review - particularly the bits about Brett's enduring foxiness, ahum.

mike t-diva, Friday, 29 March 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

Wife and I agreed last night that she can leave me for Brett and I can leave her for Connie Britton should it all go horribly wrong at home. What Brett and Connie Britton would have to say about this remains to be seen, but I can't see they'd mind.

Trans-Europe Stopping Train (ithappens), Friday, 29 March 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Don't think that much of the new record, but "Fautlines" is lovely, up there with the good stuff.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 13 April 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think anyone else has pointed this out, but "Faultlines" pretty much recycles the melody from Brett's solo song "Clowns" - easily his best tune of the last decade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyteb16owdk

Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 14 April 2013 01:42 (eleven years ago) link

The new album is terrific! The final mix is awful though: it hurts my ears.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 April 2013 01:46 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah it crackles pretty awful.

Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 14 April 2013 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think anyone else has pointed this out, but "Faultlines" pretty much recycles the melody from Brett's solo song "Clowns" - easily his best tune of the last decade.

― Eyeball Kicks

I guess he just figured hardly anyone heard that song so he would get away with it. Not sure what I'd nominate as his best song of the last decade. Maybe the song he did with Pleasure? I really liked his third solo album Slow Attack, maybe something off that.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 14 April 2013 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

I only noticed those crackles on What Are You Not Telling Me. Have you either of you listened to it on CD? So far I've only heard a download and figured the quality wasn't perfect. I do have the CD but I'm not able to play it at the moment as I'm away from my collection.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 14 April 2013 01:52 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, the crackles are on the CD. Tracks 8 & 10 especially. It was driving me crazy cos I was having some trouble with my speakers anyway, but then it was a minor issue in Suede forums and audiophile forums so at least my speakers were fine.

Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 14 April 2013 02:00 (eleven years ago) link

Which works! Those are the worst tracks.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 April 2013 02:01 (eleven years ago) link

No they're not. The weird thing about this record is that every song is kinda 8/10, without exception. Nothing above, nothing below.

Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 14 April 2013 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

Barriers is the worst and me think the album would be a huge letdown

PaulTMA, Sunday, 14 April 2013 02:20 (eleven years ago) link

LOVED Suede. Even really enjoyed the Tears record, but this one just hasn't hit for me yet. Seems relentlessly polite, unsurprising and middle-aged... like a British Gin Blossoms or something.

Enjoyed "It Starts and Ends With You" in the way one would enjoy an above average third single, but other than that... eh. I always lose interest halfway through.

Please tell me which song on here I should try listening to over and over to fix this problem I have. Wanna love it.

mr.raffles, Sunday, 14 April 2013 04:30 (eleven years ago) link

No they're not. The weird thing about this record is that every song is kinda 8/10, without exception. Nothing above, nothing below.

― Eyeball Kicks

Yeah I kind of agree with this, no weak tracks. Hit Me might be the only one I'd rate higher than a 9.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 14 April 2013 06:34 (eleven years ago) link

Please tell me which song on here I should try listening to over and over to fix this problem I have. Wanna love it.

― mr.raffles

Hit Me is my favourite song, it's the big pop moment. Maybe try Sometimes I Feel I'll Float Away for the big dramatic ballad. For me the second half is the strongest part, those four ballads at the end just seem to sound better everytime I play it.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 14 April 2013 06:37 (eleven years ago) link

Much thanks for the pointer, KP. Glad to see you step up, as it seems we have a fair bit in musicalcommon, but...

hmm

def still not grabbing (hitting?) me. maybe a phase I'm going through, but I'd still stand by what I said before. what I've been able to get through still seems a bit restrained and character-less. gonna put on the back-burner for awhile. hope its charms reveal themselves to me when I revisit.

mr.raffles, Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:40 (eleven years ago) link

Went to see them doing an acoustic set at Abbey Road Studio 3 the other night, and the ballads from the new album were even better in that form.

If you tolerate Bis, then Kenickie will be next (ithappens), Saturday, 20 April 2013 09:28 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Re-listened to this earlier, 'Always' has grown on me a fuckload!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 30 May 2013 00:14 (ten years ago) link

The 'Dog Man Star'/Floyd breakdown is one of their best moments

PaulTMA, Thursday, 30 May 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

I've always kinda scorned the box-set business, but I got an email about this Suede vinyl set and I felt some weird old-man thrill at the thought of owning Head Music, New Morning and Sci-fi Lullabies on vinyl (plus the ones I've already got). Yeah, I'll give them £130.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 26 August 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link

If I could afford that right now, I would damn well be buying it, even if playing Head Music on vinyl isn't going to make 'Asbestos' sound any better.

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Monday, 26 August 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link

"Bloodsports" is sounding better than ever right now.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 August 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

listening to Dog Man Star again - Christ that record is nearly perfect

― not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, March 23, 2013 11:34 AM (10 months ago)

It really is

sarahell, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 08:08 (ten years ago) link

Suede are playing the whole of Dog Man Star on March 30 at the Royal Albert Hall for Teenage Cancer Trust, but I think tickets sold out pretty quickly.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 09:51 (ten years ago) link


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