Alejandro Jodorowsky

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http://tarotica.blogspot.com/2009/06/dead-rabbitsor-much-perfection-is.html

Jodorowsky writes, again in his book El Topo:

"When I wanted to do the rape scene, I explained to [Mara Lorenzio] that I was going to hit her and rape her. There was no emotional relationship between us, because I had put a clause in all the women's contracts stating that they would not make love with the director. We had never talked to each other. I knew nothing about her. We went to the desert with two other people: the photographer and a technician. No one else. I said, 'I'm not going to rehearse. There will be only one take because it will be impossible to repeat. Roll the cameras only when I signal you to.' Then I told her, 'Pain does not hurt. Hit me.' And she hit me. I said, 'Harder.' And she started to hit me very hard, hard enough to break a rib...I ached for a week. After she had hit me long enough and hard enough to tire her, I said, 'Now it's my turn. Roll the cameras.' And I really...I really...I really raped her. And she screamed."

乒乓, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 02:35 (four years ago) Permalink

he says a bunch of shit like that in the dvd commentary too

the late great, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 03:37 (four years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Za7PlknnTw

scott seward, Monday, 20 May 2013 01:01 (four years ago) Permalink

nobody anticipating? or is there a thread for this I missed?

scott seward, Monday, 20 May 2013 14:47 (four years ago) Permalink

anticipating! still haven't seen his last one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rainbow_Thief

Ward Fowler, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:11 (four years ago) Permalink

Jodorowsky's Dune documentary coming soon

Moodles, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:32 (four years ago) Permalink

excited

also for Dune doc!!

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 May 2013 16:09 (four years ago) Permalink

I've still never seen The Rainbow Thief, either, but I bought that boxed set that came out a few years ago (El Topo, The Holy Mountain, Fando y Lis and some short films, plus the soundtracks to El Topo and The Holy Mountain), and I got the recent DVD of Santa Sangre too. Would love to interview Jodorowsky.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 20 May 2013 16:11 (four years ago) Permalink

he's disowned the Rainbow Thief fwiw, dunno if its worth watching

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 May 2013 16:17 (four years ago) Permalink

I feel pretty safe skipping TRT, and also that children's movie about elephants that he did. But yes, I'm super pumped for this as well!

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Monday, 20 May 2013 19:31 (four years ago) Permalink

is there an english language version of the trailer anywher

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 May 2013 19:36 (four years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rtrd1FewUFA

this just came up on my Facebook feed lol

chimped the keeper (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 October 2013 20:08 (three years ago) Permalink

ok, PROBABLY NSFW since it won't embed

chimped the keeper (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 October 2013 20:09 (three years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxjkKDZLlo

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Friday, 14 February 2014 17:15 (three years ago) Permalink

want to see this so bad.

want someone to finish making jodo's dune.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 14 February 2014 17:23 (three years ago) Permalink

I feel like this can't be anything but a disappointment, since it's just gonna dredge up feelings of wishing it had been made

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 February 2014 17:43 (three years ago) Permalink

some dune projects have begun, then been abandoned, over the past few years. i realize it's a very hard story to convert into a film, but so was the lord of the rings trilogy, and that was done very well.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 14 February 2014 17:44 (three years ago) Permalink

I like the Lynch version fine, altho obviously its totally different than what Jodo would've done with it

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 February 2014 18:36 (three years ago) Permalink

you mean the theatrically-released version or the "director's cut"? i hear they're very different.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 14 February 2014 18:45 (three years ago) Permalink

I was just reading about the propsed soundtrack for this thing, supposedly going to be split into thirds with Henry Cow, Pink Floyd and Magma.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 February 2014 18:56 (three years ago) Permalink

you mean the theatrically-released version or the "director's cut"? i hear they're very different.

both

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 February 2014 19:13 (three years ago) Permalink

I don't recall any major differences tbh

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 February 2014 19:13 (three years ago) Permalink

I feel like this can't be anything but a disappointment, since it's just gonna dredge up feelings of wishing it had been made

― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, February 14, 2014 11:43 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this

gbx, Saturday, 15 February 2014 14:17 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

never seen this poster art before

http://i.imgur.com/Z7cBVFp.jpg

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 16:30 (three years ago) Permalink

I've been reading a lot of The Incal comic reprints lately. They have all been excellent so far.

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 17:06 (three years ago) Permalink

Love the Dark Star mention in the Dune doc.

calstars, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:46 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

just saw the doc, it's great. inspirational, even.

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 01:27 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2014/04/30/kurt-stenzel-the-score-to-jodorowskys-dune/

Interview with the dude who did the analog synth score

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Sunday, 22 June 2014 06:54 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

score was great! film in general was p fun, not a ton of new stuff I didn't know but nice to see all the players reminiscing and some of the animatics were pretty cool.

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 July 2014 21:03 (two years ago) Permalink

Rad movie. Best parts were Jodo's stories about trying to recruit Dali and his reaction to seeing the David Lynch "Dune" but the whole thing was delightful.

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 4 August 2014 14:49 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Jodo answering people's requests for help on twitter is one of my favorite things ever

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:40 (two years ago) Permalink

I guess I'll need to buy those expensive imports of Dance Of Reality and Dune documentary and hope they don't look crap on my DVD player.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:50 (two years ago) Permalink

Can that Orson Welles story possibly be true? It's hilarious, but... really?

jmm, Sunday, 2 November 2014 22:12 (two years ago) Permalink

such a lively character (84 year-old Jodorowsky), his conviction (enthusiasm, bitterness etc.) is so apparent, it's really inspiring.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 2 November 2014 22:29 (two years ago) Permalink

"Such a lively character" He is like a perfect composite of all the worst aspects of every pretentious bore you could meet in a lifetime and his movies are childish fucking idiotic garbage.

xelab, Monday, 3 November 2014 00:17 (two years ago) Permalink

I've no doubt his Dune would have been a royal mess. I get the impression Jodorowsky has a lot of interest in the visual, stylistic, and iconographic potentialities in Dune, but he hardly talks about the story at all.

jmm, Monday, 3 November 2014 01:06 (two years ago) Permalink

lynch's dune is a mess

╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 01:13 (two years ago) Permalink

A great mess

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 02:15 (two years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

So uh... a customer brought in an old, illustrated/storyboarded script for Jodorowsky's Dune. I'm going to try to get photos of the illustrations because they're kind of awesome. Don't know who did them - doesn't look like Moebius or anything. This doesn't look exactly like the book in the documentary, btw.

rabatment of the rectangle (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 28 February 2015 02:27 (two years ago) Permalink

"Such a lively character" He is like a perfect composite of all the worst aspects of every pretentious bore you could meet in a lifetime and his movies are childish fucking idiotic garbage.

― xelab, Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:17 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's harsh. i have to admit he comes across as really charming in the documentary about his abortive attempt at "dune", but i still couldn't help thinking "if this movie ever got made, it would be terrible." i kind of like some of jodorowsky's films, but they're essentially kitsch.

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 28 February 2015 09:14 (two years ago) Permalink

he has really clean veneers these days

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 28 February 2015 09:14 (two years ago) Permalink

although interestingly i think the david lynch dune has the same essential problem as i imagine a jodorowsky dune would have. lynch doesn't seem very engaged in the complex story and it comes across as incoherent, so it's really just one stunning visual after another with not much to anchor them.

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 28 February 2015 09:16 (two years ago) Permalink

i still enjoy watching it, though, almost as an art installation rather than a narrative.

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 28 February 2015 09:16 (two years ago) Permalink

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah201/ohnoitsjodo/0320Emperor_zpselrmvpjd.jpg

Like, I have no idea who drew these. They may actually be early sketches by someone connected to Jodorowsky himself. They don't have the finished look of the things I've seen in the movie.

boretanic snoremaster (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 1 March 2015 02:01 (two years ago) Permalink

The Jodorowsky's Dune documentary, that is. Also sorry I'm a shitty photographer.

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah201/ohnoitsjodo/0420Baron20Harkonnen_zpsany9csfa.jpg

boretanic snoremaster (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 1 March 2015 02:03 (two years ago) Permalink

Wow v cool

Οὖτις, Sunday, 1 March 2015 02:30 (two years ago) Permalink

hot

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 1 March 2015 05:15 (two years ago) Permalink

Looks like Endless Poetry has been funded.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 16:02 (one year ago) Permalink

#82 sounds helpful, Herzog’s list of advice for filmmakers preferable though.

the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:51 (one year ago) Permalink

Cant remember thread or idiot poster that was claiming jodo is an atheist but:

JodoEnglish (@AlejodoEnglish) tweeted at 11:52 AM on Wed, Sep 16, 2015:
They are only wrong when they say "God does not exist". In everything else the atheists are right.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:03 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

endless poetry is very personal and romantic (almost a manifesto), also funny (cake scene wth), and invigorating

ogmor, Sunday, 8 January 2017 23:14 (five months ago) Permalink

17. Do not allow yourself to be impressed by strong personalities. - Jodorowsky OTM

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Sunday, 8 January 2017 23:21 (five months ago) Permalink

Probably going to have to miss this on cinema because I'm getting a cold.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 8 January 2017 23:45 (five months ago) Permalink

This dude's old enough that seeing this thread revived filled me with dread.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 9 January 2017 01:37 (five months ago) Permalink

He's pretty confident that he'll get past 100 and he does seem in really good condition.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 9 January 2017 02:00 (five months ago) Permalink

Although the route of the artist who does annoying shit to annoy his parents is a bit hippie-ish and I don't know if I need to hear another tribute to the counterculture, and its annoying from a Western POV there was counter-balance in 1) Parra's 'boring' teacher/poet, 2) his parents were fascists, and Chile was a fascist state.

I really liked Parra's 'Anti-poems' (should be re-issued imo) and this short story about Lihn by Roberto Bolano is fantastic: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/12/22/meeting-with-enrique-lihn

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 January 2017 11:39 (five months ago) Permalink

Love that. I'm always going to have an appetite for tributes to the counterculture. I think it just caught me at the right time, I really enjoyed it

ogmor, Monday, 9 January 2017 12:01 (five months ago) Permalink

Might be able to see it Thursday if this cold goes away fast but probably not. The disc is out in March.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 9 January 2017 13:47 (five months ago) Permalink

dance of reality was unexpectedly one of the greatest films i have ever seen about sons and fathers.

endless poetry def has its moments, but i found a rather long portion of the middle a bit indulgent, or without using that tired word, a bit whimsical. esp as he is so pretentious, and his actual art did not seem that impressive (i felt something similar watching paterson... admittedly this might be my feelings about much poetry). i think its also his son's performance. theres something a bit too plain about him. which might have been the point. but the younger actor who played AJ as a child was a more expressive actor than his own son playing him as a young adult.

StillAdvance, Monday, 9 January 2017 15:57 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

went to a double bill of the two latest ones today; dance of reality I enjoyed much more this time around, endless poetry started to wear me out after a while for the reasons others have given and also because I'd kind of had enough AJ by then - per xelab above, he undeniably has a childish streak (and is 1000% a hippy lol) & this can make two two-hour films feel like a real marathon. Pamela Flores (in a double role as mother/lover in EP) is easily the best thing about both films.

wins, Sunday, 29 January 2017 20:36 (four months ago) Permalink

Oh also as a fan of disgusted walkouts from Cambridge's merlot-and-popcorn types I had to lol at sitting through 3 hours of jodorowsky (inc an 18 rating for "strong torture" in dance of reality) only to decide that a woman menstruating is just too much

wins, Sunday, 29 January 2017 20:43 (four months ago) Permalink

Got the Dune documentary. A little annoyed that there was no mention of Henry Cow involvement.
Interesting about his hatred of film stars shaping the film industry. Makes you wonder why he thought putting up with Dali was a good idea other than respect for his work.

Richard Stanley's accent fascinates me. There should be a documentary about south African accents.

Don't think I really praised Dance Of Reality enough. I found that scene of the father working with the horse very moving when he looked so happy.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 12 February 2017 02:17 (four months ago) Permalink

dance of reality is seriously incredible.
i hope he finishes all the other films he has planned in this current series.

StillAdvance, Sunday, 12 February 2017 23:13 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

He comes across as so much more likeable and practical than Gilliam that one could almost imagine that he wasn't as completely impossible and then you remember he was gonna cast Dali and Welles and ah well t was a nice dream a beautiful dream

brat_stuntin (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 March 2017 23:20 (three months ago) Permalink

Young Jodo was such a completely different person to current Jodo. Read any interviews c. "El Topo" and be prepared to be immersed in glorious batshit insanity.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 16 March 2017 23:42 (three months ago) Permalink

I do wonder if they could have done Dune without Dali because his conditions were just insane.

I enjoyed Endless Poetry but much less than Dance Of Reality. I thought it was a shame that his father's redemption was taken away. I've got mixed feelings about how miraculous and wonderful everything is treated as, on one hand it makes everything seem underwhelming because it's not living up to his hype, on the other hand Jodorowsky seems to really believe in it all and there's something really nice about how much value he places in art, even if it's in a cliched and arrogant way. I thought some of the poems were really nice.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 19 March 2017 23:14 (three months ago) Permalink

I wonder if you actually wonder if they could have done it without dali

The night before all about day (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 March 2017 23:34 (three months ago) Permalink

Why would the film studio care about Dali? Especially when he was asking for so much.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 19 March 2017 23:40 (three months ago) Permalink

I can wonder if you actually wonder that without having a conversation about it

But can we just clarify if you are sitting there pondering whether or not one of the five billion other people on the planet couldn't have played the three minute role in question

Because that seems an extraordinary thing to do. Extraordinary.

The night before all about day (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 March 2017 23:47 (three months ago) Permalink

Don't know what you're getting at but if there's other threads I have to read I'll leave it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 19 March 2017 23:55 (three months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://www.tor.com/2017/05/02/jodorowskys-dune-didnt-get-made-for-a-reason-and-we-should-all-be-grateful/

Partially about his claim that he raped the actress in El Topo.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 18:46 (one month ago) Permalink

Also, see his tweet in the comments.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 18:55 (one month ago) Permalink


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