is Karma by Pharoah Sanders the best record ever?

Or not. Scroll down the list on the right until you see Sanders from 2008.

Today "The Gathering" off Elevation is sounding like the best thing ever.

i am drooling over the bardo pond cover of master plan
hope i find one tomorrow!

hey thanks for reminding me!

and maggot brain!! but mostly want to hear alternate version of master plan. i've heard other maggot brains.

this was gonegonegone at every store i went to today
BUT
apparently it's on emusic so at least i can still hear it

i think any fan of the original should hear this. it's on spotify too. totally worth your 15 min.
i haven't stopped thinking about it for 2 days! i mean, on and off, but still. it's really good!!

Never heard of Bardo Pond, who is he/she/they?

you can buy the mp3s on amazon! not cheap tho... http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B1OANS8/ref=dm_sp_alb?ie=UTF8&qid=1366639187&sr=8-1

they are a band from philadelphia usa

Jazz band?

Nope, they're a rock band (drone/psych/spacerock)

BTW I'm probably v. late with this, but I only got round to picking up the reissue of Don Cherry's Organic Music Society fairly recently and I would totally recommend it to all. Really good version of Creator Has A Master Plan on there too! Worth buying the physical product cos the packaging is lovely but here's a spotify link anyhow:

http://open.spotify.com/album/2ODX5qfcDBR0FaMJGhAZIs

Bardo Pond and Organic Music Society both very good - thanks thread!

haven't heard the organic music society version, but there's also a nice performance of it on the live in ankara album recorded in 1969. this song always makes me happy, so i'm kind of curious to see what bardo pond have done with it (given i've not kept up with their output for a long, long time).

i heard a cover of Colors I was really into but i dont know who its by

I listened to this at lunch today for the first time. it's fun, kind of sloppy/sketchy in places but in a fun way.

Karma is great, but I prefer Tauhid, mostly for sentimental reasons though.

i've always felt that pharoah's best work is on journey to satchidananda, better than his solo albums or even his playing with coltrane (john)

Anyway, I'd still love to hear if anyone who has the Izipho Zam CD can confirm whether it has the glitch on "Prince of Peace" or not?

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 10:00
This 'glitch' appears to be present on the latest reissue which you can hear on Bandcamp. It could very be from the same needle-drop as earlier reissues, possibly cleaned up (de-noised and faded earlier) slightly.

* very well

thanking u again for not deleting karma et al from the Sansa Clip you sent me, noel

Not to appear unappreciative of the expressed gratitude but I genuinely have no idea to what you refer.

I've got that izipho cd, I'll check for the glitch later

xpost whoops! I have transposed you with ilxor Niels sorry!

https://www.nts.live/shows/black-classical-history-of-spiritual-jazz/episodes/tales-from-the-mothership-creator-has-a-master-plan-12th-october-2018

A lovely set of different versions of The Creator Has a Master Plan, none of which I'd heard before. This Jef Gilson and Malagasy one is pretty immense.

oh nice, thanks

cheers

sweet

LP version (Creator split across two sides with a break in between where you have to flip the record over and wonder what cosmic madness the musicians are up to before the music starts again) vs. CD or streaming version, ie, one glorious unbroken track?

CD version for sure

yes
thank you for that link

A lovely set of different versions of The Creator Has a Master Plan, none of which I'd heard before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwafWDmW4oU

Yes, there are definitely ones it left out. I like the Bardo Pond version, for one. Will give the Jeri Brown one a listen, thanks for sharing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXB1l2M0fSk

the bardo pond version is the only cover i've heard! that is why i am looking forward to the others. then again, BP and the original are so good idk if i want to ruin it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M0EX5KBU2Y

https://tuluumshimmering.bandcamp.com/track/the-creator-has-a-master-plan

is this the longest one?

I was familiar with some of them, but didn't know Jamaaladeen Tacuma recorded a version too, have to check it out. However, despite what the description says, it's missing at least one version of the song, the one Jeri Brown did with Leon Thomas. It's quite good!

― Tuomas

nucleus also did a version with leon thomas. and king crimson did a version too!

THere's a snippet on the Gun Club's Las Vegas Story too. I think there may have been a few live versions, I know they used to do a song they called A Love Supreme too, there's a European cd called Death Party (not to be confused with the extended E.P. cd) with a 9 minute version of that from late 83. I think they had swapped over to Creator for some of 84.

holy shit @ the Krokodil one! thanks.

sun ships adamant love for this record at the thread's start is really great

The Jef Gilson & Malagasy version, my favorite from the one hour collection above, for those who didn't play it through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9vbDmFa4Mw

gonna bump this one too, just in case any PS fans weren't aware of the new collab with Floating Points which is wonderful

Elevation is great too, sounds like the band are levitating the venue.
Would love more stuff like that.

I thought the mid 70s 20 minute track from I think Montreux was still pretty good but I think it was taken down from Youtube.

or had last time I looked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYZTgkjdBko

i was unjustly sceptical about the floating points/LSO thing, this kind of project often turns out awkward at best (and i thought pharoah peaked 50 years ago). but it does sound great so far. FP even sounds sort of like alice (on harp or organ) on occasion

so that we don't bounce between artist specific threads:
Floating Points and Pharoah Sanders and London Symphony Orchestra - Promises (2021)

RIP

Seconded