John Lennon / Plastic Ono Band or Yoko Ono / Plastic Ono Band?

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Oh, I have discussed with this Geir guy before, back in ama in the 90s. I have no interest in discussing more with him, or with any of the other losers behind ILM.

Camenend Bob Dole, Monday, 9 April 2007 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm.. Is this Gondola Bob or what?

Geir Hongro, Monday, 9 April 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I finally heard George's Electronic Sounds recently. It's basically 45 minutes of George (and, depending on who's telling the story, Bernie Krause) randomly hitting keys. I don't usually use the phrase "anyone could have done this" as an insult, but it applies here.

supposedly harrison had absolutely nothing to do with this record, and in fact was as knee-jerk anti-avant-garde as mccartney is always accused of being. he was the one who kept "carnival of light" off anthology 2.

um...all this despite his participation in "revolution 9."

Lawrence the Looter, Monday, 9 April 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

(FWIW, my post was a comic book reference to Camenend Bob Dole, not to Geir or "Geir")

J, Monday, 9 April 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

they did nothing that hasn't been done before by classical composers. Everything they did was abanondonded by Arnold Schönberg 60 years before.


he's right, you know. check out early schoenberg -- the drummer speeds up slightly going into the fills, then pulls back, adding this incredible level of excitement and tension (best heard on schoenberg's version of the shirelles' "boys"). sometimes, when stuck for a hook, schoenberg would have a harmonica doubling the guitar line. schoenberg's tape collage work is all the more remarkable for it predating the invention of magnetic recording tape. which is why he soon abandoned it.

Lawrence the Looter, Monday, 9 April 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Twee music is good music.

i'm imagining elmer fudd grooving to music made by trees...

Lawrence the Looter, Monday, 9 April 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Does no one else think that Michelle is a twee joke record?

IT IS BASICALLY MY LEAST FAVORITE SONG EVER??? I ACTUALLY BIT THE INSIDE OF MY MOUTH IN ANGER AT IT BEING REFERENCED MULTIPLE X ON THIS THREAD. WOW!

also please do not tell me that is gondola bob then i will really stop reading ilm.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 9 April 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

but seriously "honey pie" is actually the single most offensive paul mccartney song tho.

ghost rider, Monday, 9 April 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, a lot of people here really suck.

billstevejim, Monday, 9 April 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

css

ghost rider, Monday, 9 April 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I love "Honey Pie"!

J, Monday, 9 April 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

It's fucking great. Beautiful. I'm going to go listen to it.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 9 April 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

also please do not tell me that is gondola bob then i will really stop reading ilm.

On second thought, I doubt Gondola Bob would parody himself. He is way too pompous and narcissistic to be able to do that.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 9 April 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

uh

ghost rider, Monday, 9 April 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I pick Yoko's.

Krautrock!

-- Shakey Mo

otm

-- Lawrence the Looter



Yep!

Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 9 April 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

...not that I'm any kinda authority on the stuff, (superfluous) umlaut or not.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 9 April 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

TS: Yoko Ono vs. Damo Suzuki

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 9 April 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Damo

Tim Ellison, Monday, 9 April 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm undecided myself ... I may have to give it to Yoko since Damo never composed any moving piano ballads (that I know of)

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 9 April 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

COOKIE!!

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 17 May 2009 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link

People who whine about this being all serious and self-indulgent conveniently forget that in the middle of a purty nice song like "Hold On" John growls "COOKIE!!!!" out of nowhere, for absolutely no reason.

^ Z S on the internet here (Z S), Sunday, 17 May 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

In all the things I've read about "POB" I've never read a mention of 'cookie' and it doesn't exist in the liner notes. I was half entertaining the idea that I had been imagining it this whole time!

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 17 May 2009 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link

High point of John's career--definitely in terms of guitar work; one of Ono's two best. And definitely the funkiest Ringo or Klaus Voorman ever got. Ono was nearing a Faust-like state.

Soundslike, Sunday, 17 May 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I really, really, really hope there are some bootlegs of the Klaus/Ringo/John rhythm section blasting from Valhalla somewhere.

This is why I like Ringo so much. He can act like a doofus, be the 'lucky guy that got picked randomly' to go down in history, and take all that criticism in stride. And then you hear this Yoko Ono POB stuff and think 'holy shit!!'

Ringo's so unpretentious. The day after they recorded 'Why' he was making a silly peace sign. I bet it never registered how badass it was, he just thinks "Oh well, that was a fun little jam with me friends!"

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 17 May 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

"Harmonic masterpieces" -- this thread is just chock full of classic Geir.

My view is Yoko/POB for reasons already cited.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 17 May 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Geir shocked by Beatles liking music by black people.

leavethecapital, Sunday, 17 May 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

The Beatles are my favorite band, but Yoko is my favorite Beatle.

Nate Carson, Sunday, 17 May 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

i've never heard the rest of the album, but I know and love "why." is it worth my time to track down the rest?

Billy Pilgrim, Sunday, 17 May 2009 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes! Get the whole album if you love "Why". Also get "Fly"

Adam Bruneau, Monday, 18 May 2009 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link

The Beatles' Hamburg roots brought them no fame. For a reason. It wasn't until they started composing their own tunes that The Beatles became the greatest and most important thing ever to happen to music. And Paul McCartney was the most important musical brain in the group, proving a touch of true musical sophistication to the otherwise way too raw and simple R&B roots.
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, April 8, 2007 7:15 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Definition of "Curate's egg" here. Parts are very true, and parts are total bol. Without Hamburg, there'd be no 1st album, which brought them fame. "I saw her standing there" was made perfect by Hamburg (where they played it 10 times a week, at least)

The raw and simple R&B brought them fame. Yes, if they had stuck to that, they'd have fizzled out. But they developed musically. Oh no! They developed! Oh, it's OK, musical development was only banned in 1974...

Mark G, Monday, 18 May 2009 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link

oh, and these albums need re-releasing as a double or twin-pack.

Mark G, Monday, 18 May 2009 06:58 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

The new Plastic Ono Band record, Between My Head And The Sky, is fantastic

to cloves fork comfurt (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

plenty of Fly-esque tracks of "OHWHAHAHAHHAHAA" over heavy psych beats

to cloves fork comfurt (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link

another thread ruined by Geir

the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

This is crazy sounding:

http://www.sfmoma.org/exhibitions/395

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

new Plastic Ono Band IS pretty good! new Sean Lennon is uhhhh.
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/4079a19b95ca98b945924ba60584f7f8/2480031.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

actually terrible album covers of 2009

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

also, wtf Sean
http://animalnewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/sean-lennon-purple-terry-richardson.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

like, seriously

tylerw, Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Together, we are stronger than Geir.

xpost or are we?

Mark G, Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link

NSFW everybody

the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

As I just discovered

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

shit, sorry about that, doggs. didn't realize it was totally nsfw.

tylerw, Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

http://img.ymlp108.com/GuerrillaGroup_1_image_3.jpg

dmr, Monday, 11 January 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

is that hope sandoval lying on sean lennon?

piscesx, Monday, 11 January 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

She's hotter than Yoko and he's way more burnt than John.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Had to research because "DAMN".

For the Fall issue of Purple magazine, Sean Lennon appears in a recreation of his parents’ famous 1981 Rolling Stone cover, their last photo together by financially troubled photographer Annie Leibovitz. The new snap by Terry Richardson features Sean in his mother’s place while nude model Kemp Muhl fills in for his dead father."

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Launched in 1969 with the single "Give Peace A Chance", PLASTIC ONO BAND is known for its avant-garde music, film, art, and activism. Revived in 2009, YOKO ONO PLASTIC ONO BAND includes Yoko Ono, Cornelius, Yuka Honda, Haruomi Hosono and Sean Lennon. On February 16, the group performs a very special concert, featuring songs from their new album Between My Head And The Sky , welcoming many special guests, including some original band members.

There are some eye-opening special guests.

http://imaginepeace.com/news/archives/9356

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

It occurred to me hearing "Give Peace a Chance" full through on the radio tonight that this tune has to be one of the most raggedy pop hits of all time. It's pretty much just one long chorus with a big group of singers and John Lennon scatting every so many measures. What the heck is making that drum beat sound? It might be more than just a microphone in a room. Maybe it was staged to sound that raw, I don't know, but it seems hard to believe that the song was that big a hit. The tune made it to #14 in the US charts and #2 in the UK.

earlnash, Saturday, 30 November 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

It's a tough choice because they're both excellent, yet very different records. Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band is hugely underrated, IMO. Post-punk before there was post-punk. It actually makes John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band look relatively conservative, and hits the spot in the same way for me as Public Image Ltd. or Can or The Fall do.

The footage I've seen from that concert was pretty amazing. Little Richard especially (which was also used in The Little Richard Story a great film by William Klein. I think it was the first time I ever saw Jerry Lee Lewis play guitar - his set was good. I've only seen brief bits of the rest, but I'll have to check out Bo's.

birdistheword, Monday, 9 January 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link

Which concert -- Toronto Pop or the other Toronto show?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 January 2023 14:05 (one year ago) link

Never mind. There's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEtOMrXJFTw

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 January 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link

Yeah, that's the one! I remember the outfit. FWIW, the one time I saw Little Richard in-person, he had the brightest, shiniest and most sparkling shoes I had EVER seen. Never mind shoes, of any piece of attire worn by anyone.

birdistheword, Monday, 9 January 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link

I will watch them and look for him, he was only about 15 in ‘69 though so doubtful he was at anything earlier. Sadly I lost him a few years ago so can’t ask :(

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 9 January 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link

Oh I misread and thought the other was a couple years not months earlier

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 9 January 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link

Ritchie Yorke turns up in Marcus's column today, and also in Revival69--at one point, he was instrumental in saving the whole show. Made me laugh, because Yorke became a running punchline for a friend and I who both remembered his book Axes, Chops & Hot Licks, a look at Canadian pop in the early '70s. It was one of the few rock-related books that might be in your school library in the mid-'70s, at least if you were Canadian. (Yorke was Australian, but he moved to Canada and wrote for the Globe and the Telegram.) I don't know if either of us had even read him--I have a copy of Axes I bought later--but based on his 10-favourite list in the first Paul Gambaccini Top 200 book, we decided he was a good stand-in for a certain kind of '70s rock critic, best described, maybe, by the joke in Annie Hall about achieving "total heavy-osity." Very unfair, no doubt. He died five years ago.

clemenza, Monday, 16 January 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

He was included in the list of "10 Worst Rock Critics" that Marcus wrote for the Book of Rock Lists in 1980, I can't imagine that the passage of time has made him more beloved.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 16 January 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link

I'm sure that was part of us seizing on him in particular.

clemenza, Monday, 16 January 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link


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