― J, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
(BTW yes i like them tons...best alb. = "High Time"...everything i'd care to say has already been said here tho)
― , Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I accept that I might have implied that BUT as I've said before I like rock. I, in fact, love it. Goddamit, its the first i started listening to.
I've never said the MC5 was caveman rock. They tried to match free jazz WITH rock. Just like, say, the stooges and what I've said is that from listening to the records, they don't pull it off.
'Plus, your list of guitarists reads like a "The Insufferable Hipster's Top Ten Guitar Gods" thread on ILM.'
I'm not being a hipster: someone else started it because I said I liked Zappa's guitar playing (because mark asked me whether I liked zappa and if I was a hipster he wouldn't be on my list). So I cited other guitarists that I liked because that person said it was a load of wanking.
Again, I've listened to many more (Others I didn't mention: D. Boon, Bob mould, Stefan jaworzyn, rudolph grey, etc.). These are all really good guitarists that I like and if some people haven't heard them and they haven't listened to some of the records these people were in then they should give it a go.
― Julio Desouza, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― mark s, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I think people are being too harsh on Julio though. He's a poster with a limited range of tastes and his position on the MC5 is perfectly consistent. To someone who listens to the stuff he does the MC5 probably sound like Gorillaz do to lots of us, i.e. a misplaced, patronising and botched hybridisation.
― Tom, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Tom- my brother likes Goraillaz, so I got to know what they sound like. Unlucky for me.
The problem isn't really one of limited tastes, but of limited social skills.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
tom - nah don't reckon. *everyone* i have *ever known* likes all the same shit he likes,& they all wuv the '5.
― duane, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
And I think I'm prob. guilty of overegging the MC5 jazz-rock pud. Most often they sound like The Who...
― Andrew L, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― , Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I've no problem with people being harsh to me. Because this is a discussion group and I'm providing some disagreement and I'm more than happy to defend my position. This thread would have been over and done with hadn't I done so.
'The problem isn't really one of limited tastes, but of limited social skills. '
You are the one calling me an 'insufferable wank' so you are the one who needs to work on your social skills but thanks I am highly amused.
By the way: I hate a lot of groups that have been give the 'wire' seal of approval as well. Including the MC5.
No, you are! mimes sticking out tongue
(i wasn't calling you a doorag julio, i wuz calling duane doorag a doorag)
I don't care abt insults. Some people will resort to such rubbish but I don't care.
― owen hatherley, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
http://www.rcleather.com/images/Doo%20Rag%20-%20041.jpg
http://www.mmurphy11.homestead.com/files/doorag.jpg
Holla
― Ramosi, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― stevie, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
How come no-one ever mentions Blue Cheer round here?
― duane, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― di, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 21 April 2005 05:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amon (eman), Thursday, 21 April 2005 05:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 21 April 2005 06:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amon (eman), Thursday, 21 April 2005 06:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 21 April 2005 06:13 (eighteen years ago) link
Ah, but the mix of that on Babes in Arms is great.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 21 April 2005 06:26 (eighteen years ago) link
I never saw the 5 but I did follow Sonic's Rendezvous Band when I lived in Ann Arbor. Fred Smith was an amazing musician, pushing the envelope of every performance like a jazz saxophonist on a roll. Hearing him play was saturating, like swimming in the ocean: you'd wake up the next day still feeling partially immersed, with your ears ringing and a funny taste in your mouth. Kick Out The Jams!
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:16 (eighteen years ago) link
dave q told me I must listen to 'back in the USA' but you know I keep forgetting! maybe its one for the retirement home.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― cb, Thursday, 21 April 2005 11:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 21 April 2005 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― theophilus jones (theophilus), Thursday, 21 April 2005 12:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― steve-k, Friday, 22 April 2005 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link
I'd just like to say that this is shite.
― everything, Friday, 22 April 2005 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link
house of blues?
sigh
― the late great, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link
The MC5’s Wayne Kramer Demonstrates the Correct & Official Way to Play “Kick Out the Jams” on the Guitar
I love this dude.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link
Just saw the DC gig and loved most of it. Kramer looks and sounds great. Canty on drums is a good choice. Didn’t know the Zen Guerillas guy on vocals, but he was decent enough. Cool to hear Kick our Jams, Looking at You, Call Me Animal, Shakin Street and more live.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 03:55 (five years ago) link
https://www.thedailybeast.com/do-i-remember-the-68-dnc-riots-dude-i-played-them
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link
I managed to get a UK original "Kick out the Jams" Lp off Discogs for £15, described as "Poor" condition, it was perfectly fine if a bit scratchy.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 13:51 (five years ago) link
Listening to the albums again (on Spotify!) after being dazzled by Wayne Kramer and MC50 the other night. Forgetting which MC5 albums I have on vinyl.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link
Holy molyhttps://youtu.be/AmnM-EBWZBM
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link
KOTJ released 50 years ago today.
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 February 2019 20:28 (five years ago) link
http://townsquare.media/site/295/files/2014/04/hudsons.jpg
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 February 2019 20:31 (five years ago) link