New Order's worst song wins award

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If I wanted to listen to the Other Two, I'd listen to the Other Two, which never happens.

Viz (Viz), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link

even 60 Miles An Hour

what about rock the shack, though? eh? EH?

a song so bad i'd forgotten it even existed.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

"Rock the Shack" is better than half of "Brotherhood". There, I said it.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

if i say "no, you're wrong; so painfully wrong it hurts", we're inching ever closer to another interminable argument about the relative merits of "get ready". so i'll avoid saying "no, you're wrong; so painfully wrong it hurts". even though the truth is that you're wrong. so painfully wrong it hurts.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

i was just listening this today at the gym! There is something unquestionably brilliant about the absurd lyrical conceit (football + loooooove) which is clearly awesome. The rap is good/bad in the same way as the rap on "Radio Song."

mrjosh (mrjosh), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently quite a few people here already agree that "World In Motion" is not only not bad but quite brilliant, I'm just gonna say I'm one of them. Besides I tend to really like "bad raps" made by people who "can't rap". I think this may actually be what makes them actually pretty good.

daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess I never got around to saying that "World In Motion" is great. Sure, just about everything on "Substance" is better, but "Substance" is damn tough to top.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I was only 3/4 in 1990, and I only just vaguely remember "World in Motion" as a really annoying happy-clappy theme song, with Janet Street Porter somehow involved (?). It had a really scary video which really stuck out in my memory.

However I probably disliked any song in 1990 that wasn't by "The Turtles" so I guess I'd be proved wrong if I heard it today :)

JTS (JTS), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I particularly like World In Motion, and yes as much of Style Council fan as I am, their rap tracks really suck.

And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link

k

Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 05:20 (eighteen years ago) link

there was nothing good on "NO"."republic" is brilliant,"technique" is perfect."get ready "was hit and miss- "rock the shack "is the only song i can't listen to.their worst hit was "krafty",the worst single was "jetstream".

retrogurl, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 05:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Let's review: YOU'RE WRONG!

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 06:02 (eighteen years ago) link

anyone who thinks that "World in Motion" is New Order's worst song is clearly still living in the year 1995.

Not that they'd have been right then either, but they'd have been close-ish.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 06:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Lenny Hewnry isn't really rapping, is he? He's being a vaguely rhythmic slap bass synth stab stand-up comedian.

It's still shit though.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link

HENRY, I MEANT.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually he plays the club owner.

Still, from the same album: "Come To Milton Keynes" - compare and contrast with "Trains To Brazil" by Guillemots, eh?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Sumner's rap on Electronic's 'Feel Every Beat' is worse than Barnes.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, right. I will listen to it as punishment for getting it wrong.

Also, you are right, Sororah.

I was recently reacquainted with the rap on That Petrol Emotion's Big Decision. Excruciating.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Nicked from Brother D and the Collective effort? Yes, very poor.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link

"You gotta agitate, educate, organise"

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

"How We Gonna Make The Black Nation Rise?" which I've still got on one of those old NME cassette compilations from '82-ish somewhere, and was better ripped off (tune-wise) by Modern Romance on "Queen Of The Rapping Scene."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:58 (eighteen years ago) link

anyone who thinks that "World in Motion" is New Order's worst song is clearly still living in the year 1995.
Not that they'd have been right then either, but they'd have been close-ish.

-- The Good Dr. Bill (fadeout9...), March 8th, 2006.

Ok, maybe I'm being a bit dim but I don't understand this - does it mean that it was nearly their worst song in 1995? If so what was worse before 1995? And why 1995? For some reason I resent being thought of as living in 1995. I'm not ready to move off from 1983.

Ned T.RIfle II (Ned T.Rifle II), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:16 (eighteen years ago) link

NME's football-themed New Order pun circa World in Motion: LOVE WILL TERRACE APART. Marvellous.

For what it's worth, I love that song to bits. It's got all the ingredients of great New Order songs: silly lyrics, great keyboard sounds, huge crescendo (albeit this time with footballers singing the chorus with Bernard).

Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Football

Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link

People who hate "Jetstream" have malfunctioning ears.

Dan (J-E-T) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't believe the hate for "Krafty".

Euler (Euler), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Those people don't have brains.

Dan (Just Gimme One More Day) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

they're both weak/tired/lazy crapola lacking the sinister edge i looked for in my NO

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

they're not actually horrendous songs in their own rights - just seem and sound so flat and boring compared to past NO. what's the point of them?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link

They should have called it a day after "Here To Stay", which would have been a beautifully poignant end. Like Konal says, everything now has this air of "what's the point?".

Johnny Jarvis, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't heared "Hey what you doing" but that's the lamest song title ever.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Almost a lame a song title as "Hey Ya."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

for what it's worth, i loved krafty.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

i am listening to this right now. it is great. shut it.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

jetstream IS shit tho.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Ok, maybe I'm being a bit dim but I don't understand this - does it mean that it was nearly their worst song in 1995? If so what was worse before 1995? And why 1995? For some reason I resent being thought of as living in 1995. I'm not ready to move off from 1983.

yes, it was nearly their worst song in '95, but it wasn't as bad as, say "MTO" or "All Day Long" or half of Movement. '95 just seemed like a good neutral year of New Order downtime, after which nearly every song they released was worse than "World in Motion"

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

In 1995 I probably would've said 'Everyone Everywhere'.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

In 1995 I probably would've said 'Everyone Everywhere'.

You are daft! After "Regret," it's the best song on the album! Looove the guitar solo.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

"All Day Long" or half of Movement

mmmmMMMMMPH! must ... not ... get ... angry ...

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Funny how NO threads are the only times ILM gets me worked up.

The worst NO song is obviously State of the Nation and NO post-95 is better on average than pre-95, although Rock the Shack (in its album form at least, the 'in session' version being pretty great) definitely ranks amongst their 5 worst tunes.

Le Baaderonixx de Clignancourt (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

The most important point here is that the wrong song won the contest. It should have been "Three Lions".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link

???????????????????????

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

**NO post-95 is better on average than pre-95**

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

You gotta give him credit for an independent (indie?) opinion though!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

NO post-95 is better on average than pre-95

Well, I'd say that the two last albums are better than Republic and Lowlife, on a par with Brotherhood, PC&L and Movement, and below Technique. Hence, the average

Le Baaderonixx de Clignancourt (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"All Day Long" or half of Movement.

Wow, are half the posters on crack or what?

Edward Bax (EdBax), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Certainly.

Steve Mack from That Petrol Emotion has been seen a punk gigs lately in my town. That makes me happy for some reason.

Ya gotta agitate, educate, organize (Bimble...), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:13 (eighteen years ago) link

New Order singles collection CD, the 7" one, can be obtained in the HMV 2 for £12 offer. The problem is finding the other half of the 2.

Those new 12" with remixes on are on 3 for £10 offer. Not a huge saving, but worth it if you want the lot, I suppose.

This is my helpful shopping tip for the day.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 13 March 2006 09:02 (eighteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

"State of the Nation" and the "Sub-Culture" remix are not even close to being the worst New Order songs but this journo is clearly well-versed in popular journalistic opinion of the band that always rates them as such!

Take those two out and throw in any of the tracks from the 'Lost Sirens' collection.

yesca, Sunday, 20 August 2017 03:39 (six years ago) link

A large part of New Order's greatness is their insouciance. What better way to demarcate what they once were as Joy Division than to write songs with life/knife rhymes?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

obv your New Order isn't mine. But I say you're misreading the history of a band who wrote "You caught me at a bad time/So why don't you piss off?" and recorded disco, not a genre known for its portent.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

I don't think was by design. That's by the limitations of the artist. :)

There's been several interviews with Saville where he summarizes things quite nicely. He references the NYT article about NO titled 'How Cool is Coldness?', waxes on about the delta between how they were presented and who they actually are, and how 'World in Motion' finally changed that perspective for some.

Anyhow, off topic. Back to worst NO songs!

yesca, Sunday, 20 August 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

World in Motion originated from an instrumental Steve and Gillian wrote. The band were not working together at the time. They did it for the money and it required little effort. I just don't even consider this an actual single.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 20 August 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

World in Motion originated from an instrumental Steve and Gillian wrote. The band were not working together at the time. They did it for the money and it required little effort. I just don't even consider this an actual single.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 20 August 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

That was a remix.

Mark G, Sunday, 20 August 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

The Making Out mix? I know there were a few around 89-90 that were done for TV by S&G and I'm pretty sure WiM was based on one of those songs.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 20 August 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

This is where I say I was wrong that one time eleven years ago.

Ned Trifle X, Sunday, 20 August 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link

"State of the Nation" and especially "Sub-Culture (remix)" are two of their BEST songs. I love "World in Motion" as well, but I agree it could be an Other Two single - not a bad thing.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 21 August 2017 06:21 (six years ago) link


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