― Viz (Viz), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link
what about rock the shack, though? eh? EH?
a song so bad i'd forgotten it even existed.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― mrjosh (mrjosh), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
However I probably disliked any song in 1990 that wasn't by "The Turtles" so I guess I'd be proved wrong if I heard it today :)
― JTS (JTS), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 05:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― retrogurl, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 05:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 06:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Not that they'd have been right then either, but they'd have been close-ish.
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 06:15 (eighteen years ago) link
It's still shit though.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Still, from the same album: "Come To Milton Keynes" - compare and contrast with "Trains To Brazil" by Guillemots, eh?
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, you are right, Sororah.
I was recently reacquainted with the rap on That Petrol Emotion's Big Decision. Excruciating.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:58 (eighteen years ago) link
-- The Good Dr. Bill (fadeout9...), March 8th, 2006.
Ok, maybe I'm being a bit dim but I don't understand this - does it mean that it was nearly their worst song in 1995? If so what was worse before 1995? And why 1995? For some reason I resent being thought of as living in 1995. I'm not ready to move off from 1983.
― Ned T.RIfle II (Ned T.Rifle II), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:16 (eighteen years ago) link
For what it's worth, I love that song to bits. It's got all the ingredients of great New Order songs: silly lyrics, great keyboard sounds, huge crescendo (albeit this time with footballers singing the chorus with Bernard).
― Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (J-E-T) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Euler (Euler), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (Just Gimme One More Day) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Johnny Jarvis, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link
yes, it was nearly their worst song in '95, but it wasn't as bad as, say "MTO" or "All Day Long" or half of Movement. '95 just seemed like a good neutral year of New Order downtime, after which nearly every song they released was worse than "World in Motion"
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link
You are daft! After "Regret," it's the best song on the album! Looove the guitar solo.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link
mmmmMMMMMPH! must ... not ... get ... angry ...
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link
The worst NO song is obviously State of the Nation and NO post-95 is better on average than pre-95, although Rock the Shack (in its album form at least, the 'in session' version being pretty great) definitely ranks amongst their 5 worst tunes.
― Le Baaderonixx de Clignancourt (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, I'd say that the two last albums are better than Republic and Lowlife, on a par with Brotherhood, PC&L and Movement, and below Technique. Hence, the average
― Le Baaderonixx de Clignancourt (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Wow, are half the posters on crack or what?
― Edward Bax (EdBax), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Steve Mack from That Petrol Emotion has been seen a punk gigs lately in my town. That makes me happy for some reason.
― Ya gotta agitate, educate, organize (Bimble...), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:13 (eighteen years ago) link
Those new 12" with remixes on are on 3 for £10 offer. Not a huge saving, but worth it if you want the lot, I suppose.
This is my helpful shopping tip for the day.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 13 March 2006 09:02 (eighteen years ago) link
These crazy words of mine!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2017 03:29 (six years ago) link
"State of the Nation" and the "Sub-Culture" remix are not even close to being the worst New Order songs but this journo is clearly well-versed in popular journalistic opinion of the band that always rates them as such!
Take those two out and throw in any of the tracks from the 'Lost Sirens' collection.
― yesca, Sunday, 20 August 2017 03:39 (six years ago) link
A large part of New Order's greatness is their insouciance. What better way to demarcate what they once were as Joy Division than to write songs with life/knife rhymes?
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
obv your New Order isn't mine. But I say you're misreading the history of a band who wrote "You caught me at a bad time/So why don't you piss off?" and recorded disco, not a genre known for its portent.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
I don't think was by design. That's by the limitations of the artist. :)
There's been several interviews with Saville where he summarizes things quite nicely. He references the NYT article about NO titled 'How Cool is Coldness?', waxes on about the delta between how they were presented and who they actually are, and how 'World in Motion' finally changed that perspective for some.
Anyhow, off topic. Back to worst NO songs!
― yesca, Sunday, 20 August 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link
World in Motion originated from an instrumental Steve and Gillian wrote. The band were not working together at the time. They did it for the money and it required little effort. I just don't even consider this an actual single.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 20 August 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
That was a remix.
― Mark G, Sunday, 20 August 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link
The Making Out mix? I know there were a few around 89-90 that were done for TV by S&G and I'm pretty sure WiM was based on one of those songs.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 20 August 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link
This is where I say I was wrong that one time eleven years ago.
― Ned Trifle X, Sunday, 20 August 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
"State of the Nation" and especially "Sub-Culture (remix)" are two of their BEST songs. I love "World in Motion" as well, but I agree it could be an Other Two single - not a bad thing.
― Spencer Chow, Monday, 21 August 2017 06:21 (six years ago) link