― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― valdemar (nubbin), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― valdemar (nubbin), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link
Fahey produced an impressive variety of stuff and my feelings about it vary. If I'm not in the mood for Hitomi maybe I want to hear his dixieland stuff, or A Raga Called Pat, or The Oregon Capital Inn blah blah - he did a lot of different stuff! Seriously! And yet, maybe this is all my imaginings and projections, but I can sense the same determination behind it, the clear-headed, straight up emotionality and that killer sense of humour. Even (especially) with his writing. More than any one of his styles, or his status as an innovator or whatever, I'm mostly in love with the wonderful personality I feel behind it all. And when I listen to Sun Gonna Shine In My Backdoor Someday Blues I'm not listening to, as he describes it, a bitonal piece played in a John Hurt, ragtime finger-picking pattern style, I'm listening to... I don't know, something much trickier to word. More than any other music I feel this with Fahey. When I first heard him just after I turned 18 I was blown away by how ridiculously intuitive it seemed - it was so obvious, I couldn't believe I ever bothered with other music.
A lot of what's written about Fahey to convince you of his IMPORTANCE talks about how he was the first to do X or an exciting blend of country blues, 20th century classical, indian classical... blah blah. To me at least, it doesn't sound like that and it wouldn't be nearly as interesting if it did. All that seems incidental. The way I hear it (and I appreciate the subjectivity of all this), Fahey is trying to get to SOMETHING and all the technical details are just his way of getting to it. I guess that's it anyway, it's why I feel the same sorts of things listening to such a diverse range of music. It's not the language he's developed, but what he's saying with it.
― Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Excelsior Syndrum (noodle vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm so fucking proud of throwing that rock into the pond.
Those little waves just marched around in their own order, but in no way that anyone could have predicted.
Even though the pond got back to equilibrium in about 10 seconds, I have to say that, for a small while, I was fucking make waves in that pond. I threw the rock, the waves happened, they ended, and it was because of me.
Fuck you, pond. I would never hesitate to throw another rock in you.
― Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link
And Leo Kotke rules so watch it, pals.
― !~~~~11@@, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Excelsior Syndrum (noodle vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Dom iNut (do...), January 10th, 2006.
By the way, that's really beautiful.
― ~~~~~, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Excelsior Syndrum (noodle vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Excelsior Syndrum (noodle vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― imbidimts, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― imbidimts, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm no one to define soul, and I'm not defending John Fahey, but isn't repetitious music (chanting, drone, prayers, etc.) used all around the world in order for an individual to get in touch with their soul, subconcious, self, inner state, etc.?
― QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link
Only if you like it it's good
― Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Does this help?
http://www.furious.com/perfect/fahey/fahey-byron.htmlhttp://www.furious.com/perfect/fahey/fahey-byron2.html
― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― imbidimts, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link
This says 11/94:http://www.folklib.net/index/discog/f/fahey2_john.shtml
― TRG (TRG), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm not as keen on Reprise era Fahey as there's a lot of not particularly inspired trad jazz tunes and what not, although Of Rivers And Religion has plenty of admirers and one or two great tracks (the version of Funeral Song For Mississippi John Hurt is so jerky in parts I worry about whiplash). It makes sense that Christgau would disagree though and if you are aligned with his more populist approach (?) you might too. The Yellow Princess and Of Rivers And Religion are well worth getting though, and The Yellow Princess is being reissued soon with 3 bonus never-before-heard demo tapes including some sort of early version of Fare Forward Voyagers, I believe.
― Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link
no.
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link
there is massive internal struggle in the john fahey catalog, with sometimes gorgeous and sometimes disastrous results.
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link
As for the other two things I learned about music, here they are:
1. Never trust a musician with any sort of beard
2. Stay away from anything Pitchfork says is good.
Props out to Mr. Roundtrouser: your winsome earnestness has warmed my heart and given me pause. Irony is the badge of the defeated!
― valdemar (nubbin), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link
#define NUM_VALDEMAR_HUGGLEZ 2112
tValdemarHugglez* pValdemarHugglez = new tValdemarHugglez[NUM_VALDEMAR_HUGGLEZ];
for (int i = 0; i < NUM_VALDEMAR_HUGGLEZ; ++i){
pValdemarHugglez[i].fBeard = g_BeardDatabase[BEARD_DATABASE_INDEX + i];
pValdemarHugglez[i].fPitchforkReview = g_PitchforkReviewDatabase[POSITIVE_REVIEWS][PFORK_POZ_REVIEW_DATABASE_INDEX + i];
printf("Valdemar loves the %s beard and thinks the %s review is groovy %lt;3\n", pValdemarHugglez[i].fBeard.GetStr(), pValdemarHugglez[i].fPositiveReview.GetStr()); }
printf("I <3 valdemar!!!! lol omg !!!!!1\n");}
printf("Goodbye, world\n");g_fucked = 1;free(NULL);
― Dom iNut (donut), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 00:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 00:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link
...
i wonder if there are ILM trolls who just try to bait me sometimes, but i realize that would be impossible.
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 04:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 04:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 07:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Then again Tom Lehrer wipes Malmsteen.
Game over, man.
― Dom iNut (donut), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 07:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 07:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Burr (Burr), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link
I recorded him playing that in my 2-inch analog tape studio in Hawaii... we did lots of coke. It was rock.
(done spray-bottling Fahey fans' picnic yet? You've gotten the towels all moist now. For shame. I'm hardly even a huge Fahey fan here, so I found this all kinda funny.)
― Dom iNut (donut), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dom iNut (donut), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link
More on xpost Proofs and Refutations---from Drag City, so adjust your shades and brains accordingly---at least they start with a track (hearable via several links, but I'll go w this)https://thejohnfahey.bandcamp.com/track/evening-not-night-pt-2
https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3766545716_10.jpg
Recorded in 1995 and 1996, mostly in John Fahey’s room at a Salem, Oregon boardinghouse, the performances on Proofs and Refutations prefigure the ornery turn of the page that marked Fahey’s final years, drawing another enigmatic rabbit from his seemingly bottomless musical hat.Right out of the gate, Fahey re-materializes before us, somewhere between Oracle of Delphi and Clown Prince at Olympus. Portions of this material appeared on obscure late ‘90s vinyl in the 7” or double-78 rpm format, but as a “session” it has lain dormant more than a quarter century now. Taken together, we can now see these tracks as secret blueprints to latter-day Fahey provocations, several years prior to records like 1997’s City of Refuge and Womblife. Proofs and Refutations is cloaked in the language of dogma -– what is he proving? refuting? –- this is Fahey dancing a jig in the Duchampian gap, jester cap bells a-jingling. True believers? He’s got something for you: an uncompromising vision that you can sneer at or embrace as evidence of his genius. Skeptics? He’s there with you, too: sending up the fallacy of certitudes altogether. Institutions, systems, accepted wisdom. Heroes. Alternative facts, indeed.Atop lost and found plucks and pickings from the final decade of Fahey’s legendary career sits "Evening, Not Night (Pt. 2)"– sounding as ruthlessly iconoclastic as ever. Here, he wrestles the ghost of Skip James, perhaps to finally force the “bitter, hateful old creep” (his words) back into the grave. He plays with a sense of freedom, aiming for the formative mists beyond the piece at hand, and finding them with ease, in an expansive, unhurried performance.Proofs and Refutations will be available on LP/digitally on September 8th.John Fahey Online: Drag City -https://www.dragcity.com/artists/john-faheyPre Order -https://www.dragcity.com/products/proofs-refutationsStream "Evening, Not Night (Pt. 2)”-http://lnk.to/proofsandrefutations
Right out of the gate, Fahey re-materializes before us, somewhere between Oracle of Delphi and Clown Prince at Olympus. Portions of this material appeared on obscure late ‘90s vinyl in the 7” or double-78 rpm format, but as a “session” it has lain dormant more than a quarter century now. Taken together, we can now see these tracks as secret blueprints to latter-day Fahey provocations, several years prior to records like 1997’s City of Refuge and Womblife. Proofs and Refutations is cloaked in the language of dogma -– what is he proving? refuting? –- this is Fahey dancing a jig in the Duchampian gap, jester cap bells a-jingling. True believers? He’s got something for you: an uncompromising vision that you can sneer at or embrace as evidence of his genius. Skeptics? He’s there with you, too: sending up the fallacy of certitudes altogether. Institutions, systems, accepted wisdom. Heroes. Alternative facts, indeed.
Atop lost and found plucks and pickings from the final decade of Fahey’s legendary career sits "Evening, Not Night (Pt. 2)"– sounding as ruthlessly iconoclastic as ever. Here, he wrestles the ghost of Skip James, perhaps to finally force the “bitter, hateful old creep” (his words) back into the grave. He plays with a sense of freedom, aiming for the formative mists beyond the piece at hand, and finding them with ease, in an expansive, unhurried performance.
Proofs and Refutations will be available on LP/digitally on September 8th.
John Fahey Online:
Drag City -https://www.dragcity.com/artists/john-fahey
Pre Order -https://www.dragcity.com/products/proofs-refutations
Stream "Evening, Not Night (Pt. 2)”-http://lnk.to/proofsandrefutations
― dow, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:18 (nine months ago) link
ah so it's basically a reissue of The Mill Pond 2x7", I actually like his noise pieces esp those on City Of Refuge
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 30 June 2023 18:29 (nine months ago) link
When do the lost ‘77 sessions get their proper release? I can’t remember what the story was with them but at least one track was issued on Red Cross.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 12:43 (nine months ago) link
https://freshairarchive.org/guests/john-fahey
???
whoa, weird
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 13 November 2023 16:29 (five months ago) link
👀👀
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 13 November 2023 20:10 (five months ago) link
Ok, he is so wrong about the SF Symphony. At time of this interview the new symphony hall was less than one month from opening (due to the $5M gift from Louise Davies), but the symphony itself absolutely existed, sharing space with the opera/ballet at War Memorial. But with John I suspect facts are more of an illusion.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 13 November 2023 23:59 (five months ago) link
the transfiguration of terry gross
― tylerw, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:36 (five months ago) link
I Remember Blind Daniel Schur
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 01:18 (five months ago) link
wow, anyone heard this Finland-only release from 1968?
https://www.discogs.com/release/12204209-John-Fahey-Finlandia
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 26 November 2023 22:00 (four months ago) link