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also, touch & go didn't put out the hose EP with "you sexy thing" and "super freak" (i think) on it, did they? pre-beasties rick rubin; damn i wish i still had my copy of that thing. i'd forgotten they were also on *god's favorite dog*; is rubin actually on those two tracks on that comp, including the zep cover? did hose record anything else? (and actually, were they really any good, or just a cool historical footnote whose EP i was totally correct to sell?)

and right, i'd forgotten about *cows and beer* when i mentioned die kreuzen. but honestly, october file might be the most beautiful pigfuck album in human history.

xhuxk, Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

also, what about virgin prunes? they had at least one good album on touch & go, if i remember right.

xhuxk, Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

nick put a link above to their catalogue, chuck. i heart mekons was the first thing that came to mind for me. i certainly wouldn't tell someone who wasn't that familiar with mekons to buy pussy, king of the pirates. i guess they reissued the old stuff too.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

those first two shellac singles are cool too. i still want to hear bedhead. they are the patron saints for people who don't like to get out of bed. and they put out the scratch acid collection on one cd too. i still say beserker is better than just keep eating or the first album and i LOVE just keep eating. berserker is just one genius ball of psychedelic fury. perfect from beginning to end.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, well, in that case:

Mekons:
The Edge of the World
Devils, Rats & Piggies -- A Special Message from Godzilla
I Have Been to Heaven and Back: Hen's Teeth and Other Lost Fragments of Un-Popular Culture Vol. 1
Where Were You?: Hen's Teeth and Other Lost Fragments of Un-Popular Culture Vol.2
Fear and Whiskey
Punk Rock

Angry Red Planet
Gawker's Paradise

Urge Overkill
The Urge Overkill Story...Stay Tuned 1988-1991 (touch & go promo EP, not in catalogue, ignores their pre-t&g debut EP which I kinda miss)

Virgin Prunes
The Moon Looked Down and Laughed

Various
Process of Elimination EP

xhuxk, Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought the Mekons were on Quarterstick? (same difference, but..)

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Brainiac overdue for recontextualization as ahead-of-their-time spazzy electro dance rock, Hissing Prigs and Electro-Shock are both good

if you like Silkworm but stopped paying attention after Firewater I'd definitely check out Lifestyles and esp. Italian Platinum

Urge Overkill's Supersonic Storybook, Polvo's Cor-Crane Secret

I liked Rodan's Rusty back in the day but now probably appropriate for only the most dedicated post-rockin' Slint fans

Renard, Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

VIRGIN PRUNES OTM. That record has now been reissued by someone else as part of the much-needed VP reissue series.

You Can't Pray A Lie is by far my favorite Laughing Hyenas record.

Necros, Die Kreuzen, Mekons, Big Black, hell yeah. And I like those !!! records.

Not familiar with 90% of the new catalog. I heard Don Cab the other day and it was great tho.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Even though they reissued all their T&G recs on their own label, the classic Butthole Surfers period is inextricably connected w/ Touch & Go in my mind.

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

late period Silkworm (RIP) seconded. esp. Lifestyle

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Lots of Big Black love, but not a vote for the Big Boys - I'd include the comps as essential T&G releases.

TRG (TRG), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

oh jesus, can't believe i forgot about those - fucking essential is right.

ZR (teenagequiet), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Even though they reissued all their T&G recs on their own label, the classic Butthole Surfers period is inextricably connected w/ Touch & Go in my mind.
-- Edward III

Oh, yeah - I was wondering why nobody had mentioned the Buttholes yet! Thought it was like a conspiracy.

Not really a T&G band, but that Chrome Alien Soundtracks/Half Machine Lip Moves twofer is an essential item.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link

didn't the Buttholes almost bankrupt T&G with a lawsuit?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Probably. Heroin costs money you know.

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

T&G is run on handshake deals to split all record sale profits 50-50 in perpetuity. (Or something like that.) When Butthole Surfers got huge, their back catalog was a big moneymaker and they sued to take those records away from T&G.

Renard, Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Br41n14c were grate. Delta 72 - fun live band, not bad.

Didn't T&G have to destroy all the Surfers back catalog records they had? seem to recall some article about them being run over with a bulldozer but maybe I'm just wishing that was what happened.

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 16 December 2005 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Effigies!

I have that Hose EP, it totally sucks. It's pretty funny though. The imprint is actually Def Jam, if I recall! That and God's Fave Dog the only two appearances I know of.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 16 December 2005 04:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Def Jam's inaugaral release, if I (also) recall

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 16 December 2005 10:42 (eighteen years ago) link

no sufjan, no credibility.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 16 December 2005 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link

S:
Didjits - Hornet Pinata
Ex - Singles. Period
The Fix - everything, and good luck finding it (there was a CD of their stuff but I think it was a bootleg and it's long gone)
Jesus Lizard - Goat
L-Seven - s/t (not L7)
Man... Or Astroman! - pretty much all of it, except it all sounds the same
Naked Raygun - Throb Throb
Slint - Tweez
VA - Process of Elimination

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 16 December 2005 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Jesus if Big Black didn't absolutely rule once...

Halloween Spooky Party Hints! (Bimble...), Saturday, 17 December 2005 04:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, NINA NATASIA IS THE MOST UNDERRATED T&G ARTIST EVAH!

Me too.

I am shocked by the lack of love for Pegboy on this thread.

Ben Dot (1977), Saturday, 17 December 2005 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I am shocked by the lack of love for Pegboy on this thread.

Maybe I am mistaken, but I thought Pegboy were on Quarterstick.

For this thread, are we talking just T&G the label or T&G the distributor, too, because some releases mentioned here were not technically released on T&G but were released by labels who were distributed (exclusively?) through T&G like Quarterstick.

It's interesting to see how T&G has changed over the years. They definitely have "softened" their aesthetic a bit. I know some of the newer releases are decent. But, when I think of T&G, I think of the hardcore stuff to the midwest, grunge, noise, thing (Big Black, Jesus Lizard, and Hyenas), which kind of died out shortly before the rise of post-rock (Something I never really got into.) I mean, the fact that T&G put out something like the Delta 72 record is a sure sign of some kind of decline. Hell, I'll take a rather boring Tar record over sub, sub, sub Jon Spencer fashion dorks. The only newer T&G releases I have ever purchased were the Monorchid/Skull Control stuff. As for the past three to four years, isn't just indie rock and pop. Maybe I'm wrong!

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Saturday, 17 December 2005 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree - I associate them with that period and those bands and always will. They probably needed to expand to survive, I don't blame them, but I don't really care for their rooster of bands now and haven't for a while. As for Pegboy I always thought they were boring, and the final straw was a flyer they posted when trying to recruit a new member. You'd think you were joining the Marines, it was a strange ad. Unless it was a joke, and I don't think it was. That of course doesn't have much to do with the music, but it tells where they're coming from. They took themselves too seriously and I figured there wasn't much point in me taking them seriously, too. That aside, I thought they were dull.

TRG (TRG), Saturday, 17 December 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Quarterstick is run by Corey Rusk (T&G founder, owner, etc.), so it's more of a subsidiary or sister label to Touch and Go rather than merely distributed by them.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Quarterstick is run by Corey Rusk

not unless corey changed his name to ed roche.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link

he did. you didn't hear about that?

latebloomer: Deutsch Bag (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to have so much Touch & Go stuff!

[jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

The Jesus Lizard were the best.

[jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Also Scratch Acid - The Greatest Gift.

Might listen to that now.

[jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Silkworm deserves a third (or fourth) mention -- although I would say Lifestyle is the best of their Touch & Go records.

moxie, Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link

also, touch & go didn't put out the hose EP with "you sexy thing" and "super freak" (i think) on it, did they? pre-beasties rick rubin; damn i wish i still had my copy of that thing. i'd forgotten they were also on *god's favorite dog*; is rubin actually on those two tracks on that comp, including the zep cover? did hose record anything else? (and actually, were they really any good, or just a cool historical footnote whose EP i was totally correct to sell?)
Pretty much all the Hose info one could ever want can be found in a piece co-written by their singer at my (defunct) blog: http://mysticalbeast.blogspot.com/2005/02/rick-rubin-early-years-thats-rick-on.html

The short version, though, is that they also released a single (Def Jam #1) that includes a pretty great Flipper-esque track called Mobo, later covered (very nicely) by the Dustdevils on their first Matador album.

dlp9001, Saturday, 17 December 2005 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link

"The Jesus Lizard were the best."


i love love love jesus lizard, but even now i would seriously consider getting a die kreuzen or necros tattoo. close to my heart.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 December 2005 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

"I would say Lifestyle is the best of their Touch & Go records"

I gave the slight nod to Italian Platinum b/c I'm partial to Bourbon Beard and the "story" type songs (LR72) but it's pretty much a toss-up vs. Lifestyle, both are great

Renard, Sunday, 18 December 2005 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmmm, surprised that The Lee Harvey Oswald Band hasn't come up yet.

dlp9001, Sunday, 18 December 2005 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link

the Flesh Columns were a three piece punk band from Windsor Canada. They recorded a 7" single on touch & go in 1983. Their sound is like a cross between the Ramones and Misfits.

fret bored, Sunday, 18 December 2005 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

was the LHO Band LP called Blastronaut? I have a vague recollection.

Binjominia (Brilhante), Sunday, 18 December 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

So very sad if this is true - the demise of Touch and Go -

http://www3.timeoutny.com/chicago/blog/out-and-about/2009/02/rip-touch-go-records/

My fave ever label ...

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

That is depressing to hear. The label hasn't thrilled me much in recent years, but back in the mid-90s when I was first delving into lolindie and discovering bands like Seam, Slint, and Jesus Lizard, I thought the label could do no wrong. I loved flipping through someone's record collection, flipping over an unfamiliar title, and seeing this...

http://www.southern.com/southern/label/TCH/pics/logo2.jpg

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah it was a similar seal of approval for me - digging through 2nd hand CDs if an unfamiliar band had that logo on it I'd consider buying.

Too bad but I guess they haven't released much lately that's been all that interesting? Perhaps someone might like to update this thread with post-2000 T&G essentials?

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

The last two Shellac albums and the last Ted Leo album, off the top of my head

Considering this is one of my favourite labels ever I'm curiously unbothered by this TBH

big fatass Paul Ross (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

This will be as polarizing at !!!, but Pinback's Summer In Abaddon from 2004.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

T&G never really figured out how to thrive in the 2000s, seems like. Just funny because a couple of other semi-regional labels with a similar amount of weight behind their names have done really well over the same time period.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Considering this is one of my favourite labels ever I'm curiously unbothered by this TBH

it's more desensitized for me than not bothered. Also, T&G's not completely dropping off the earth. They'll be around to keep certain titles in print, but allegedly won't be signing new bands or won't be "moving forward" for lack of a better term. All the rumination here was already rumination several years ago, tbh.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost

uh they did sign a couple of bands by the name of yeah yeah yeahs and TV on the radio.

fuck me. this sucks.

Yo, I just copped dat brand new Manity Kane cd. (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

It is sad because even in the crooked 80s, artists on T&G (except for one obvious example) talked highly of how fair the label was in royalty deals. It was really hard to find any label like T&G once upon a time, so I can imagine the emotions in the Chicago music circles are running high right now. :(

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

holy shit holy shit holy shit! silly me, i thought they were doing well, for some reason. like matador and maybe close to sub-pop well. guess they never got teh subsidy $$$ like those folks. major bummer. though our tastes diverged in the 00s, i still respect the shit out of them guys/gals.

who's gonna put out the crystal antlers LP?

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

this is a bummer, but as long as they keep their old records in print I won't be as bummed.

sleeve, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow to Kirk Gibson introducing Negative Approach! That Laughing Hyenas piece was good too. RIP Larissa

John Brannon: Larissa had never picked up guitar, she just kind of learned her own way. She wasn't affected by learning Eric Clapton or Led Zeppelin, she did it by feeling.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Hey, they're on Bandcamp:

https://touchandgo.bandcamp.com/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 October 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

Most excellent.

Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 2 October 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link

Kinda disappointed the early Shellac singles aren't up there, though.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 2 October 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

I have a feeling those are coming "soon", which is Shellac terms means anytime between now and 5 yrs from now

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 2 October 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

Good to see they went with this pic of Killdozer

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/0019944862_36.jpg

your response will be deleted unread (Matt #2), Friday, 2 October 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link

Always loved that photo. It's like they out-Urge Overkilled Urge Overkill.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 October 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

the shirts alone are incredible, yes

sleeve, Friday, 2 October 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link

Thanks! That's good to see.

I wish they'd put their old yearly sampler compilations up, although I concede that maybe there isn't so much point in comps in the new online/bandcamp era. But a couple of those really changed the shape of my record-hunting in the late 90s, and now I can't even find them listed on the T&G website.

Guess I can look up the tracklistings on discogs and just listen to the individual tracks & buy whatever artist's albums take my fancy, which I suppose might be what a sampler was supposed to inspire, rather than being listened to on loop as an album in its own right by broke students who excitedly picked them up because they were cheap and had a lot of tracks on.

(Some of them were coproductions with their sublabel Quarterstick Records, who have their own bandcamp: https://quarterstick.bandcamp.com/ )

scampus unrest (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 2 October 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link


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