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Enigma "Sadeness Part 1"... the song that will never fucking die...

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Dan, how much do you charge for the tea tree oil bath + 90-minute deep tissue massage, again?

― donut e- (donut), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

C/D Bringing panflutes to shows as an audience member and playing along

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh come on, even if it's new age, the first Enigma LP was great, and sounded a lot more like ambient house and less like new age, than the acts that followed (like the aforementioned Deep Forest, or the worst of them all, Era). And don't forget that Enigma producer Michael Cretu was also responsible for the pop hits of his wife, SANDRA! Remember Maria Magdalena?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

(x-post)

Haha, for once me and Dan Perry find a common ground. I used to be the proud owner of all three Enigma LPs, but unfortunately I've lost them somewhere.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Dan, how much do you charge for the tea tree oil bath + 90-minute deep tissue massage, again?

With or without anal violation?

(xpost: I STILL HAVE ALL THREE OF THEM! Only I haven't listened to them in a dog's age. That may change tonight.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Remember the backwards video for Return to Innocence? That shit was so meaningful to a teenager! Though me and my friends always believed the yodeling on that song was spontaneously composed while the singer was sitting on the crapper with a severe case of constipation.

AAAWWW-AAAYYAAHH-AWWW-AAAAYAAH!

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"Ass... Violat."

*doot DOOT DAAAADUUUUUUUU*

― donut e- (donut), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

i loathe enigma. it was the soundtrack to my roommate getting it on with a strange old man in MY BED. gross.

"iiiiii-eeeeee-iiiiiiiiiii-iiiiii---iiiiiiiiiii" -- pygmies

enigma = the WORST

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Did the strange old man charge you for the tea tree oil bath + 90-minute deep tissue massage?

― donut e- (donut), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it was Deep Forest rather than Enigma that sampled pygmies. Enigma sampled Indians.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link

And Maria Callas.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, what was the Post-Orinoco Flow/Enigma new age beats song that got TV ad time on some airline ad? I remember liking that one. It was also on some comp that got HEAVY TV ad time. They played it at the beginning, middle, and end of the commercial (maybe cause they knew the Deep Foresty shit would scare off even potential buyers of that comp).

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

you mean that one song on the Fruitopia commercial? and that one song on the Oil Of Olay commercial? Or...

― donut e- (donut), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Adiemus, maybe? Did it have choir singing?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, Adiemus. I need to DL that and see what the hell I was thinking.

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

...and if I like it, keep it on the DL.

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

(IOW, FreeTranslation.com is no "It's your fremme neppa venette.")

OMG "Sadeness" vs. "Work It" MASH-UP!

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG I think they're the same BPM, too!!!!!!!!!!

Sade, dit moi (Hosanna)
It's your fremme neppa venette

(Is this the point where I admit that I like that Deep Forest pygmy single, too?)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I like that there was a hit that was about a man who wrote lines like "he fucks a cow, which gives birth to a monster, which he then fucks". But I don't like the song.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

"Now everybody's funkin' but they don't know how, they wasn't down back when the bull funked the cow..."

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

love this song .

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

"Work the Sadeness"

No.

Baaaad idea jeans.

― donut e- (donut), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

At the time, it seemed so state of the art and slick. Now, it just sounds hopelessly, haplessly dunked in a big bowl of cheeeeeeeese.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 July 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex in NYC and I in arms! Brothers! Comrades!

― donut e- (donut), Saturday, 9 July 2005 00:06 (eighteen years ago) link

NEWSFLASH: Enigma album #1 is still awesome. There is a track on there that is an ambient precursor to Underworld's "Dirty Epic".

In summation, FIE ON YOU, DONUT-E POOPYHEAD.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 9 July 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

That’s not the beginning of the end
That’s the return to yourself
The return to innocence.

― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Saturday, 9 July 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Love - devotion
Feeling - emotion

― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Saturday, 9 July 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Don’t be afraid to be weak
Don’t be too proud to be strong
Just look into your heart my friend
That will be the return to yourself
The return to innocence

― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Saturday, 9 July 2005 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

ay yai yaaai ai ya etc

― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Saturday, 9 July 2005 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

We used to wail the Return To Innocence, er, wails in the street.

We were students.

― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Saturday, 9 July 2005 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think I've actually heard "Sadeness Part 1" in at least 10 years.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 9 July 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

There's a very great chance I lost my virginity while the first Enigma album was playing (it was either that or Nothing's Shocking by Jane's Addiction). I'm not proud of this, by the way.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 9 July 2005 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

oh god! the sexual connection to this album seems disturbingly pervasive/universal. i had already heard it a couple of times in america but it seemed so cheesy i didn't really pay attention. the first time i really noticed it was my sophomore year in college-I was in Germany over the summer supposedly to study the language/culture at the Goerthe Institute. But I had come down with a massive head cold/infection the moment i landed and since I couldn't get drugs all i wanted to do smoke all day and get/stay drunk. Unfortunately nearly everyone was a pollyanna type and just wanted to go to class and then talk in German afterwards. grrr! (plus a couple of guys from Tunisia who wanted to spread islam and rape people??). I finally found Tatiana and (i can't remember the other girls name) - two really pretty Italian slacker students there to espace their families pretty much and "be on their own AS WOMEN" - whick i assumed meant party. Tatiana was all feminine and contemplative and breathy like all the time. It was like hangin out with Sophia Loren. And she was incredibly tall. I was like the snot-nosed dwarf who held her purse. One night I went to pick up Tatiana from her room so we could go out, just to find her lying there languidly on the bed - with that chanting and "Sah Dit Moi" going on in the background. I was like come ON TAtiana aren't you ready? "ohh Susanna i feel so sad all day and have masterbate mabye 10 time. i don't want do anthing only masturbate. do you understand?" then long breathy sigh -- anyway, it was actually mildly disturbing but moreover i had nothing to say to that so we just sat there listening to the feverish chanting and "sah dit moi" for like an eternity. and that song seems way less cheesy to me now!

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 9 July 2005 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

let me feel on yo botty susan why cuz its phat

― john bender, Saturday, 9 July 2005 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link

clearly John Benders been listening to the song.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 9 July 2005 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

fortunately I lost my virginity to Aja by Steely Dan. Unfortunately it was lost by the end of "Black Cow".

― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Sunday, 10 July 2005 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Dan can suck my Sadeness, as this is turning out to be a great thread thanks to everyone else but me. HA!

― donut e- (donut), Sunday, 10 July 2005 02:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Besides, it really WILL never die. I just viewed the Black Daisy DVD (a comedy duo from Seattle doing short skits a la Kids In The Hall except cruder and with more nekkidness) and they used that Enigma song.

In the song credits, instead of an official song credit, they say "that one famous Enigma song"

― donut e- (donut), Sunday, 10 July 2005 02:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Sadè a bit.

― nicholas de jong (nicholas de jong), Sunday, 10 July 2005 12:52 (eighteen years ago) link

the 360 degree mix of "Return to Innocence" is fucking awesome. Every time I listen to it I get shocked when the Enigma-isms start to infiltrate the badass drums and whatnot.

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Sunday, 10 July 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
*doot DOOT DAAAADUUUUUUUU*

― PappaWheelie 2 (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I venture to say it's a fact that Michael Cretu nicked the gregorian-pop mélange off Bill Nelson's late-'80s material. Unfortunately, no one knows about Bill Nelson.

― Max Blazevic (kitaj), Thursday, 15 June 2006 09:08 (seventeen years ago) link

No, but Michael Cretu knows about the libel laws, so I'd be careful if I were you vis-a-vis "it's a fact."

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 June 2006 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link

oh god, I did not. ok. IMHO I THINK FOR ME it's a fact (and for all those who have ears). hope I'm not libel-liable anymore.

I quite like "Sadeness"; but credits where are due.

― Max Blazevic (kitaj), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahahaha what a great thread! Donut = king, even if he was TOTALLY WRONG about this song.

― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Half the atrocities of "Sadeness" is all the shitty spinoff tunes and artists it inspired!

"Only You" by Praise, anyone??

― JTS (JTS), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought that was the song that has a melancholy choir singing "who knows where the time goes, where the time goes blah blah blaaaaaaaaaaah" over some pachelbellish thing. what's that fucking song? i heard it in zeller's last night when i was buying a dehumidifier. it totally fit the moment.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

It IS a beautiful thread, yes.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

A taxi-driver last week in Pasadena put this song on and just turned the volume wayyyyy up and looked back and smiled at us. It was a pretty funny scene.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

i just got the 12" of this track. uh, i think i might be in love with this song.

― the table is the table, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 05:11 (sixteen years ago) link

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now playing: the rest of MCMXC in a dark hotel where I've been living for a week

― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 10 April 2023 12:18 (one year ago) link

I recently became aware of the Sarah MacLachlan collected dance remixes album, which is not quite that specific nostalgia (in either time or affect), but also not a million miles away. Someone more knowledgeable than me could probably trace some throughlines.

― The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Monday, 10 April 2023 12:31 (one year ago) link

The Sarah McLachlan/Delirium track is the exact vibe of the first Enigma album imo, if many years later

― Vinnie, Monday, 10 April 2023 12:36 (one year ago) link

Oh wow you're so right! I think I had only ever heard the epic trance remix of that one, but the original hits

― The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Monday, 10 April 2023 12:43 (one year ago) link

now playing: the rest of MCMXC in a dark hotel where I've been living for a week

A fine approach. And it is a good album. I stand by my old AMG review from the late 90s. (I think that and the Enya reviews I did flummoxed a few folks back then but time has further justified my thoughts.)

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 April 2023 16:05 (one year ago) link

Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, dancing nude like Silence of the Lambs' Buffalo Bill.

― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 April 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link

One of my favorite memories is closing all the shades and playing this album in the dark while my friends and I laid on the carpet of my parents’ family room. No drugs were involved.

― castanuts (DJP), Monday, 10 April 2023 23:59 (one year ago) link

Right before Delerium went the full McLachlan there was a song on Semantic Spaces, "Flatlands," that was uhhh a bit more than just "inspired by" that Sadeness sound. Love it, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PABYxXkCJUg

― Devilock, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 02:47 (one year ago) link

Probably the origin of my love of pan flute/pan pipes in techno

― omar little, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link


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