Sebadoh: C/D?

i went out and got a copy of the reissue. it sounds great. songs like "sacred attention" come close to what i like so much about bakesale

re: Sebadoh, C/D

to echo the original poster:

Being the Dinosaur Jr. fan that I am, I have to say NOT classic.

well then you REALLY wouldn't like the b&s bonus tracks. there's a four-part noise suite called "old daze" with lou and jason each taking a part, and eric taking two

and by part you mean tab of acid.

tabs in the ocean

I prefer Jason to Lou, and I like The Sebadoh a lot, so I'm probably not the best person to ask.

I just read that Bubble And Scrape review this morning.. enjoyed it quite a bit.. The 2008 reissue disc has been in my car CD player for 5 days straight which is unusual for me.

holy shit dudes i am falling in love with The Sebadoh.
i think side b is likely one of the best sides i have heard in a while
solid and catchy and just really in my head right now can't get enough
we're too old to apologize!

melting dry to the bone i just can't leave it alone!

The Sebadoh is massively underrated

thread inspired me to listen to this again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgnoxyaA-LU

i remember being really into the SOUND of this song 20 years ago.

the drumming (on the *1*), the searing guitar/bass levels (esp on the chorus/outro)...

that's got to be a hollowbody guitar?

Interesting how Xgau did a 180 on these guys as soon as I stopped paying attention.

yes the sebadoh
love is stronger

hey wassup shasta! you banging yr head on teh punk rock eh

Anyone into III? I got heavily into that record, it was a portal for me to a whole universe of music I had not known before.

I decided to see them in concert around that time. I remember traveling 200 kilometers by train and arranging a bed and breakfast in a strange city for me when I was 17 or so, to see them. I was alone because I didn't know anyone who knew them. Massive experience, two days skipping Uni and solely focussed on seeing the mighty Sebadoh. Boy did Barlow fuck that up haha. He had a cold and two songs in he started shouting and cursing the audience in typical Barlow-style, telling the audience to fuck off, and he walked off stage. Took a while before he was back. I remember being shocked although the reaction of the other band members (mere shrugs) was strangely comforting. When he came back on they raced through a 40 minute set and that was that. And I still thought it was pretty good! Haha.

Still love III, and most other records. I have no idea what Barlow is up to nowadays.

I saw Lou and Jason a couple of years ago in Holland, during a reunion tour or something. One of the worst shows I've ever seen. In between the first few songs, Lou drank a whole bottle of red wine, and got drunk immediately. It was so embarrassing to look at that I didn't listen to their albums for a few years.

But despite that ugly memory I have to say CLASSIC.

My experience was in Holland also, but years before. Wine-experience seems pretty much the same though ;-) (there were two or three already openend bottles standing ready at Lou's disposal if memory serves me right)

Deluxe version of "Bakesale" coming soon, looks interesting:

http://www.subpop.com/releases/sebadoh/full_lengths/bakesale_deluxe_edition

I love Eric Gaffney's stuff on III, especially the last song, lol

I haven't heard a note after Bubble & Scrape, but up to then it was all amazing (B&S itself is patchy). III is one of my desert island discs.

Bob Fay drums on the title track of the new Mars Classroom (Robt. Pollard, Gary Waleik) record.

Secret EP!

http://sebadoh.bandcamp.com/

really rad way of funding a record i think

i listened to smash your head on the punk rock and b & s a while ago to see if i could still like them and as it turns out, the eric songs are the ones i continue to enjoy (i'm the kindest drifter you'll ever hate, and i'll cook for you and i'll clean my plate! >>>>> it's all a matter of soul and fire) and the lou songs sounded UNBEARABLY feelingsy. the loewenstein songs were relatively neutral and fine. I had friends who would complain about the noisy songs interrupting their sweet sweet lou songs, and i guess they finally got what they wanted. does the reunited sebadoh have a gaffney?

He was back for earlier reunion things, but he's since left again.

dont think so. he left again afaik

Sebadoh ended for me when Gaffney left. If Lou was the heart, Gaffney was the spastic colon that kept you on your toes.

real talk!!

i thought of him more as the more interesting person -- all lou can do is talk about his boring emotional FEELINGS. i don't want to hang around with a heart. wkiw loewenstein though.

And that line-up was AMAZING live. Switched instruments every few songs, so you got rotating mini sets of Lou, Jason & Eric tunes, with the singer almost always on guitar. Plus they were really loose in the way only a very close band can be. They seemed to enjoy playing with each other so much the audience couldn't help but feed off it too.

If I want to hear someone sing about their feelings I'll take "I'm scared of dying, don't let me die" over everything Barlow ever wrote any day. xpost

iirc it was a toy love

Jason Lo is my favorite of the three, so as long as he's present for the process, I'm on board.

just found out about this, happy. going to play it in a few.

Man, ilx, looking gifthorses in the mouth since the turn of the century.

I'm stoked for this, maybe not my ideal line-up, but I'll take these new tunes.

JayLoew forever, love the new songs

given how things went down with Dino Jr. back in the day and how Lou felt about it i always thought it was odd for him to carry on w/ both Sebadoh and Folk Implosion without the people who started those bands with him

Haven't heard these guys in a long time but was in a normally bustling cafe that was strangely empty due to the holidays and Bob Weston's production on "Brand New Love" (the Smash Your Head version) is pretty wild... That's some pretty nice tight mic-ing.

https://i.imgur.com/pLNSgO4.jpg

nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoUv_ntXV-4

10/25/91
Maxwell's, Hoboken, NJ
ERIC, JASON, AND LOU

(00:00) Slinstrumental
(03:47) Brand New Love
(08:12) It's So Hard To Fall In Love
(10:21) Sexual Confusion
(12:55) Cheapshot
(14:20) Toledo

i'm listening to the new archival Deluxx Folk Implosion record with Bob! It's sooooo awesome! a whole album of great stuff that never came out from the sessions that the 7-inch came from. every sebadoh fan needs this for real.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14641936_10155184014092137_23910008043006990_n.jpg?oh=1cddb836f5880ea319eb34d09d9769e4&oe=58626B03

that's very cool

1990 pre-iii eric jason lou show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UazDjWnS1yE

"Buffalo Tom and Nirvana... that's cool..."

ERIC
JASON
LOU

featuring that guy who used to play bass in Soul Asylum

Great ending to that Middle East show... it was really a whole 'nother energy with Eric on 2nd gtr.

(or, rather, the only gtr -- and Lou on bass)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaAP3DJRADU

I still have not heard the last LP, I don't think. I did see the reunion tour which I was psyched about at the time but cannot remember a single thing about now.

xxp “Headringer” is on Twister! I don’t know offhand if it’s the same version, though… Knowing Unrest, it may not be!

ha I was wondering about that! I have the CDR reissue of that, will check

These guys were one of the 'big (ha)' indie rock bands I never saw live back in the day. Heard it was usually a mix bag. Only time they played B-ton back when I was going to lots of shows, I was out of town. I heard they switched instruments a couple times.

Sebadoh III and Smash Yr Head always get a smile out of me when I put them on half crocked on whisky and beer about once every 2-3 years or so.

Red Red Meat were cool as heck live the couple times I saw them though. And Railroad Jerk too!

All those bands the better the production got, they got all SERIOUS on their songwriting. They were ALL generally better when they were just stoned noisy weirdos. Kind of the rocknroll equivalent of people getting better looking as the series went on on sitcoms as they finally got dough and a stylist or something.

Barlow was def more “careerist” than many in terms of gamely cleaning up his sound / polishing his songwriting; but Sebadoh never made it onto a major (he did with Folk Implosion though).

(I need to read that article about the 1999 Sebadoh album; that was released under some awkward partnership Sub Pop had with Sire at the time.)

The Grifters > Pavement/Sebadoh

At least to me...

ok, reading the piece now, it sounds like they were actually on Sire