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new in dubstep worth checking:

dj younsta - dubstep allstars volume 2 - features the massive neverland coming to vinyl on DMZ005 soon - also includes a variety of forthcoming hotness

DMZ004 - Coki - officer &

N-Type - Square Off

the new one from D1 (SOULJA008)

the utterly essential HYP003 - kode9's Kingstown

Benny Ill vs Dinesh & Mark One (VEHICLE5)

very old now but dub child's - voodoo tears it

plus many others - excellent period right now

check mr blackdown and mr dusk's keysound radio mix

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

haha, I got some of those off you!

And jed sent me Kingstown. Dusk and Blackdown's Keysound mix is REALLY good.

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Myke you are saint. "Kingston" is really good Prince Far I redux.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah myke thanks for letting me leech offa you like a...leech.

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I like rap grime and dubstep grime too.I favorably reviewed the first Rephlex comp in Voice, haven't heard the second. (Even if they were hopping on the grimewagon by calling dubstep "grime," not like they were detracting from rap grime's American hits, cos there weren't none). "Slowed-down jungle" is a paradox, but one that this comp usually uses well, along with others. (Although the first couple of tracks are closer to regular-speed jungle, which may be one reason they aren't as good as the other tracks.)(Not that I don't like regular-speed jungle, sometimes, but these initial tracks aren't good at that approach.)Dubstep on this Grime comp is literally grimey at times, but fun: like joyriding a forklift around in a warehouse you are visiting. (I'm *told it's fun.)

don, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought ilm didn't give dubstep any love? :)

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know about ILM but I'm coming round to dubstep.

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm still pretty ambivalent, but there's certain stuff I love. It's hard music to love unless you are going and dancing to it, I think.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Or you could get stoned and listen to Keysound Radio on headphones.

I guess....

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

oh i forgot something - macabre unit's lift off - classic

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, whenever I get my new headphones I will do that.

We'd be remiss not to mention the Plasticman 1Extra mix as well (which I still haven't finished, but which is quite good so far.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I still think the "21st Century Skank" mix that Kode9 put up on (it's still there peeps!) was dubstep proper's pinnacle - begins with Zed Bias's "Ring The Alarm" and it's solid hits all the way through.

I've been accused of abandoning dubstep once grime came along and simply following the dictates of fashion. I'd someday like to write something long and torturous about the kernel of traumatic truth in this: the fact that changes in fashion of this type are sometimes the precise thing which opens up the space to stand back from a genre and perceive its limitations: by the end of 2002 you could make the retrospective argument that dubstep had been the "wrong" microstrand to watch, that "Pulse X" was what was important, but right through the preceding year it had felt like there was a properly dialectical tension b/w dubstep and proto-grime, that the next thing was going to emerge from the interstices between the former's dazzling fluidity and the latter's blocky rigidity.

And this is actually what happened, if you squint: the blocky rigidity simply intensified and mutated itself into something else which on the one hand worked according to entirely different rules and on the other rhythmically pre-empted anything that dubstep might bring to the table (you could say that "I Luv U" was the paradigmatic tune here but I think a better example might be J Sweet, Cameo and Gemma Fox's "Baby" - a pop-grime 8-bar beloved of Femme Fatale which nonetheless contains within it the same sort of razzle-dazzle snare action dealt by Horsepower, Bias or DJ Hatcha at their respective bests). And it really was as-against-this that dubstep began to strike me as somehow insufficient.

There's a sense in which grime actually "ate" dubstep - or at least the bits that I love, that I would insist housed the largest part of its potential - and all of dubstep's developments since then - whether it be mirroring grime or drifting towards broken beat or simply intensifying its "pure" strain in which rhythmic invention is increasingly downplayed in favour of other, less immediately tangible principles (see how dubstep increasingly transplants the "House is a feeling!" catch-cry as its own) - feel like attempts to distance itself from that traumatic experience of cannibalism. The fashionable switch from dubstep to grime was responding to something quite real that was going on in the music i think.

NB. This may be interpreted as a rant against post-02 dubstep but it's not meant in that spirit. There is a lot of stuff in the genre that I really like. Just wanted to give an example (from my own experience) of what might be behind a lot of people preferring grime to dubstep.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Great, I'll bring my headphones and some of that Cali!

The Plasticman mix is good. Release an album, Plasticman!


Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Tim, may I ask if you've heard the Keysound Radio mix on Martin's blog?

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Like some people said in the 60s, "You are what you eat." So Dizzee and Wiley's grime may have eaten dubstep, and it's part of what they did (maybe less so now). To me, dub's shapeshifting trickiness can get predictable, stale, like some old pothead entertaining only himself; stepping ( of the kind R. Kelly gushes over, "It's a way of life!" or techstep, whatever dance-specific music) can seem just as insular in its own way.Dubstep, at its best, or even median,seemed to bring the best bits of both out of their shells. And if rap-grime ate that, hey. Of course rap has broader, deeper associations/appeal than dub or steps, so rap grime, or Real Grime, if you like has more appeal, in some ways (but still no hits over here)

don, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Adam I have heard the Keysound radio mix - I really like it too! Even the dubstep bits! Esp. the second track, the one after the Kode9 cover of "Ghost Town" with those eerie bits of accordian and eerie ambient sounds - "Indian Stomp" I think. Also Digital Mystikz's "Forgive" when it gets over its dirgey bass inclinations in the first half and goes properly muso with the trumpet and piano and rainstorm. Martin's really good too at constructing a vibe (and in a way his own tracks are the "vibiest" even if they're not necessarily my standout favourites). Having said that when "Win" starts up afterwords I'm suddenly on a whole 'nother level of enjoyment - canny choice of track too, "Win" may be Roll Deep's most "dubstep" moment apart from "Ground Zero" which honestly bores me now.

I think it's actually partly because I do like individual dubstep tracks so much that it really frustrates me that I don't like more of the genre, and it makes me harsher on it than I should be. Dubstep wears it's "I bring you the FUTURE! THE FUTURE! THE FUTURE!" inclinations on its sleeve, so it's easy for it to feel like it's underperforming. The obvious corrolary is techstep/neurofunk '97, where there's a handful of stuff that is among my favourite music ever, and most of the rest I could probably take or leave.

And in the spirit of forgiveness I should make a gratuitous shout-out to my favourite "mid-period" dubstep track, DJ Abstract's "Touch" - which is thoroughly awesome, but maybe I like it so much because it's almost a "proper" 2-step track. Female vocals! And gorgeously syncopated breakbeats, like a mutant hybrid of The Wideboys "Something's Got Me Started (Dub)" with the Zed Bias remix of 2 Banks of Four's "Hook and a Line". And squiggly keyboards!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 26 August 2005 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Dubstep lovers, this week's Breezeblock was a dubstep special (programme is streamed for a week), with Mala (Digital Mystikz), Skream, Kode 9 and Space Ape, Vex'd, Hatcha, Loefah and Sgt. Pokes, and Distance.

Tracklisting here.

stevo (stevo), Thursday, 12 January 2006 12:12 (fourteen years ago) link

the previous vex'd breezeblock mix is linked to from their website:

and their mix from 11th November at Adverse Camber is also worth a listen (but is very quiet)

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 12 January 2006 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Loefah and DJ Youngsta did mixes for one world last sunday:

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Dubstep wears its "I bring you the FUTURE! THE FUTURE! THE FUTURE!" inclinations on its sleeve

Really??? To me says "I am 1978! 1978! 1978!!!!"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

(and that's a good thing!)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link

1978?!? explain, pls

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

what i've heard of dub-grime, or whatever, has a huge "jammy" beardo quality to it, which makes me think of classic dub.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm listening to the one world mix now, and do people really say "KAY SEVEN RECORDS" ??

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

but seriously, vahid, a whole lot of dubstep that i've heard just sounds like people mixing yabby u over their "spookiest" grime white labels? maybe i haven't been listening to all the right stuff.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

"this plate is exclusive to me
and this ganja here
is exclusive to i"

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

i've had a rethink on "dubstep allstars 1+2". when it's pissing drizzly rain, you're smoking cigarettes, too much / not enough coffee headache, driving home through the tough streets of san mateo, spent all day getting abused by teenagers in saggy jeans + puffa jackets - it's just perfect.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Adam doesn't smoke though? ;)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Tracer I meant the entire discourse of the scene more than the actual music. If anything i meant the music falls a bit short of the promises the discourse makes on its behalf - which is not really the music's fault because almost all music falls short of such promises.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link

> whole lot of dubstep that i've heard just sounds like people mixing yabby u over their "spookiest" grime white labels?

and that's bad why? 8)

oh has some podcasts available. it seems that grime has made it to australia.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 11:09 (fourteen years ago) link

If anything i meant the music falls a bit short of the promises the discourse makes on its behalf - which is not really the music's fault because almost all music falls short of such promises.

i think this really means that the discourse is a self-sustaining thing which doesn't actually need the music input at all.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 11:20 (fourteen years ago) link

koogs i SAID it was a good thing!!

OK maybe that was hasty, though - i just listen to youngsta's mix and it's a lot more than that. veering dangerously close to tranquility bass at times, however.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 10 February 2006 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
hmmm ... i can't find a copy of "dubstep allstars 1" anywhere!!

pls message me if you'd like to part w/ a copy for a reasonable sum.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I can send you a second hand copy if you like Vahid - in good condition. No charge in exchange for that Doc Martin stuff.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 24 February 2006 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link


vahid (vahid), Sunday, 26 February 2006 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link

who's going to hook me up w/ youngsta's "dubstep allstars 2"?

who's going to be mixing 3?

what's the dirt over at dissensus about these releases?

vahid (vahid), Saturday, 4 March 2006 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
kode 9 has mixed number three ft the spaceape

martin (martin), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes I went looking for it all weekend. No luck. EXCITED though.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link

The new boxcutter EP on Planet mu is fantastic (! I don't listen to enough dubstep to be sure if this could really be considered part of it, but I like the way the heaviness is a little more restrained and the experimental side comes forward on this EP.

Bn1 (Bn1), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:42 (fourteen years ago) link

First Boxcutter and now Burial - Dubstep is leading the way in 2006 !

Burial on the Breezeblock

In session, Cinematic sounds from Burial a rising producer within the dubstep scene. Burial is a 26 year old from South London. This music is so far out, cool, fresh, haunting, eerie, atmospheric - INNOVATIVE and demands a listen.

Tracklisting info: Radio 1 - Mary Anne Hobbs [Now on Listen Again]

Burial music reminds me of Coil, dub, Omni Trio, Massive Attack, Eno & Byrne, Tricky, artcore drum n bass and the dubby side of early prog house circa 1992 ala Leftfield.

Deep aquatic spacey, eerie, haunting, dreamy, drifting, spatial music.

Leading dubstep music critic/writer: Martin Clark interviews Burial on the blog Blackdown

Plus free MP3 samples

Burial “Burial” is out on Hyperdub in May. Album of the year anyone? asks Martin Clark

Hyperdub: Burial

OUT MAY 15th 2006

This first album on Kode9’s Hyperdub label comes from the mysterious Burial. On this self-titled CD debut, Burial carves out a sound which sends the dormant slinky syncopations of uk garage, via radio interference, into a padded cell of cushioned, muffled bass, passing through the best of Pole’s Berlin crackle dub.

Burial explores a tangential, parallel dimension of the growing sound of dubstep. Burial’s parallel dimension sounds set in a near future South London underwater. You can never tell if the crackle is the burning static off pirate radio transmissions, or the tropical downpour of the submerged city outside the window. In their sometimes suffocating melancholy, most of these tracks seem to yearn for drowned lovers. The smouldering desire of ‘Distant Lights’ is cooled only by the percussive ice sharp slicing of blades and jets of hot air blowing from the bass. Listen also for a fleeting appearance from Hyperdub’s resident vocalist, the Spaceape unravelling his crypto-biography. In its loud quietness, Burial takes his kitchen crackle aesthetic neither from the digital glitch nor merely a nostalgia for vinyl’s materiality. Instead, as ‘Pirates’ suggests, Burial crackle mutates the tactile surplus value of pirate radio transmissions. Burial’s mix is haunted. Echoed voices breeze in and out, on road to another time. Pirate signal from other frequencies steams in. A tidal wave of noise submerging all but the crispest syncopations. The noise is not violent, but caressing, tickling, exciting the ends of your nerves. Seducing you in.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not feeling those clips, from a beat standpoint (or otherwise).

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Dubstep Allstars Vol 3 is really good. By far my favorite of the series.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think burial's music works with short clips - it's more a cinematic feel that worked on the breezeblock 20 minutes mix...that buzz word again hauntology

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

when is this grup fad music going to die?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

that album sleeve for burial is pretty bad!

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 06:54 (fourteen years ago) link

bad how? I like it, you mean it's cliched or something?

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 07:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i dunno, it looks like a brochure for some 'urban city tour' or something. or like the cover for a bad sub-doom playstation game.

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Its an aerial shot of Croydon, its where Burial lives.

He's just being upfront about his roots.

Siah Alan (Siah Alan), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm rigid with anticipation for the Burial album, his EP South London Boroughs is great... like the history of British Urban Dance music melted down, the ghosts of jungle and 2 step, sat in a sea of crackle and reverb- and yes- HAUNTOLOGICAL, properly so, way more than other cited examples...

And I think the album cover is very appropriate to his sound- the city at night, glistening pools of collected rainwater, its evocative music and this art locks in well to the ethos he/she/they are creating.

And beats-wise its fucking great- proper steppy music with lots of off centre snares and kinetic hi hat action. Its a bit removed from the way most dubstep has evolved tho, not really halfstep and grinding sub bass, more swung beats and distant pulsings... its much more emotional too... and waaay better produced (engineering wise) than almost all other dubstep (notable exception- Pinche's Qawalli- a stonka of a tune) which in the main is a bit plasticy and obviously constructed in a soft-studio environment...

gek-opel, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm working on one but i think LHF would be up there too

the late great, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 06:35 (seven years ago) link

sorta think LHF are too good-but-boring?

Tim F, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 09:45 (seven years ago) link

you heard this yet tim?


the late great, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:29 (seven years ago) link

I just nabbed it today!

Tim F, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:57 (seven years ago) link

good, cause it's good

the late great, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:08 (seven years ago) link

<3<3<3<3<3 this

tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 23:15 (seven years ago) link

damn I was just thinking today how Silkie and sully are really the only dubstep I f/w. gotta check that out.

blank, Thursday, 13 September 2012 04:53 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...
four years pass...

Ruff ruff ruff
Beats beats beats

All Loefah DMZ tracks on his Bandcamp now.

I've got my bidet and my pills (Noel Emits), Monday, 23 March 2020 09:43 (two months ago) link

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