er, Outsider.
― Simon H., Saturday, 8 March 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link
High School Band Plays DJ Shadow !
http://ia300108.us.archive.org/2/items/BrianUdelhofenTheShadowPercussionProject/spp.wmv
― oscar, Saturday, 8 March 2008 04:43 (sixteen years ago) link
classic up to and including entroducing, patchy after.
― stet, Saturday, 8 March 2008 04:56 (sixteen years ago) link
i also liked Private Press. not 100% classic, but damn good.
The Outsider was a mess.
― one time, Saturday, 8 March 2008 05:12 (sixteen years ago) link
last time I saw him play he got huge boos for anything from the outsider. Eventually he stopped and spent a while explaining to the crowd that he wasn't going to apologise for experimenting, and he'd never make the same record twice, and he had to keep on trying new things.
Really nasty mood in the crowd that night.
― stet, Saturday, 8 March 2008 05:21 (sixteen years ago) link
maybe he should just apologize for making a shitty record
― Hurting 2, Saturday, 8 March 2008 05:22 (sixteen years ago) link
and selling it to us
making a hyphy track when hyphy is at its peak is not 'experimenting'. more like trying to capitalize lol.
― oscar, Saturday, 8 March 2008 05:33 (sixteen years ago) link
this sounds really awkward and weird. given a boring, predictable lecture by a dude you paid to see rock the decks???
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 8 March 2008 07:35 (sixteen years ago) link
I saw him support radiohead some years ago and the crowd ignored him so at least he got a reaction. Which is better, maybe?
― Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 8 March 2008 08:09 (sixteen years ago) link
paying dj shadow to 'rock the decks' -- ya got burned.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 10:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeh, I think he was also trying to say "you ain't from the Bay, so you aren't gonna get hyphy aw fuck it here's Organ Donor"
― stet, Saturday, 8 March 2008 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link
I hate all that backpacker, old-school "jiggy hip hop sucks, it was better in the olden days" shit.
― Bodrick III, Saturday, 8 March 2008 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link
those backpack rappers, always talking about jiggy hiphop
― and what, Saturday, 8 March 2008 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, always moaning about it. Back in the 90s, anyway.
― Bodrick III, Saturday, 8 March 2008 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link
I hate all that jiggy, old-school "backpacker-baiting sucks, it was much more fun in the olden days" shit.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link
"i also liked Private Press. not 100% classic, but damn good.
-- one time"
yeah, i think that record is pretty underrated.
― pipecock, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:40 (sixteen years ago) link
I can't take anything he does that features non-sampled vocals. Classic otherwise.
― Sparkle Motion, Sunday, 9 March 2008 07:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Also true he is prone to delivering boring lectures mid-show, but so is Robert Fripp and he rates classic as well.
― Sparkle Motion, Sunday, 9 March 2008 07:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Private Press is ruddy excellent and I'll fight anyone who claims otherwise.
― chap, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link
private press is a great coming-down album
― max, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link
huge boos vs. big hoos
― Jordan, Monday, 10 March 2008 23:58 (sixteen years ago) link
i have defeated huge boos fyi
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 00:27 (sixteen years ago) link
-- and what, Saturday, March 8, 2008 10:48 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link
with the hippin and the hoppin and the bippin and the boppin
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 02:17 (sixteen years ago) link
man i still love endtroducing
― crackers is biters (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link
yes
― mark cl, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link
still love preemptive strike too
― mark cl, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i never got private press i should
― crackers is biters (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I downloaded the 4-track era comp the other day. Have not listened yet tho
― carne asada, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost. that's where i got off the bus. There's no standout tracks that I can remember and an awful use of a sample of "El condor pasa".
― Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Off 'You Can't Go Home Again'? That's one of his all-time best tracks!
― ledge, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link
private press is so underrated
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
great tempo:
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link
private press >>> endtroducing imo
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
u crazy
― mark cl, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
i listen to private press way more
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
i just feel like that condor pasa sample doesn't at all fit in with that bit of music at all.
― Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
i have fond memories of driving around milwaukee and hearing some tracks on college radio before it came out and just knowing it was new dj shadow.
xp it does seem kind of out of place/tempo but it works for me, it balances it out the electro stuff.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link
cute:
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyone going to pretend the Outsider was his best thing.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
*crickets*
― ilxor, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Yep. The highlights of Endtroducing are better, but PP is a far more consistent and coherent album.
― chap, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:00 (fifteen years ago) link
The school band version reminded me of this:
― C-L, Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:02 (fifteen years ago) link
The El Condor Pasa sample in You Can't Go Home Again is in that sweet area right on the edge of sounding wrong.
― ogmor, Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:12 (fifteen years ago) link
that sweet area right on the edge of sounding wrong.
Haha, I love that area. Perceptive comment.
― chap, Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:15 (fifteen years ago) link
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, January 23, 2009 4:00 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i agree with this but hoos is wrong about it being better than introducing
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:20 (fifteen years ago) link
i saw him live once and during that 'now approaching MIDNIIIGHT' joint i forget the name of this guy near me goes "oh thats butter." for some reason that really annoyed me, to the point that i feel the need to repeat the anecdote now
― xhuxk d (deej), Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:24 (fifteen years ago) link
so, yeah; dud.
― PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:25 (fifteen years ago) link
always dud
― PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:26 (fifteen years ago) link
(although, dude is a miami bass fan...)
there are some sample heavy albums I look at as “endtroducing-adjacent” but with different vibes since i left you = endtroducing on ecstasyptaki przelot = endtroducing in 80s poland
― brimstead, Friday, 10 November 2023 20:08 (six months ago) link
I consider Since I Left You my "Endtroducing 2".
Also DJ Frane's records help scratch that itch too.
Wish someone would drop an all sample based album that's blatantly illegal to show how beautiful the artform can be without legal limitations and just release it to the public domain as an act of protest or something
― octobeard, Friday, 10 November 2023 20:10 (six months ago) link
Oh nice timing there brimstead
Maybe I need to give Since I Left You another spin - the few times I heard it I thought it sounded a little too perfect. I don't know the other one.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 10 November 2023 20:22 (six months ago) link
Com Truise sometimes scratches an Endtroducing sort of itch even though it's synthy and not samply.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 10 November 2023 20:25 (six months ago) link
Four Tet 'Rounds' is definitely Endtroducing-adjacent/entirely samples.
I wonder what the post-Ableton warping Endtroducing is. Or maybe we only got mashups/edits/Girl Talk once sampling became easy and user-friendly. Thinking through all the L.A. beat scene stuff there were definitely samples, but it leaned much harder on original production.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 10 November 2023 20:31 (six months ago) link
Maybe I need to give Since I Left You another spin - the few times I heard it I thought it sounded a little too perfect. I don't know the other one.― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, November 10, 2023 12:22 PM
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, November 10, 2023 12:22 PM
thought it was just me all these years! listening again for the first time since it was new and i still get absolutely nothing out of this music.
anyway yeah, endtroducing was lightning in a bottle and our friend mr davis just happened to be the one to catch it.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Friday, 10 November 2023 23:02 (six months ago) link
DJ Frane's Journey to the Planet of Birds is a legit masterpiece imho. Vibes more with Private Press era DJ Shadow. But I love all of Frane's albums. They're made with a lot of love and cannabis
― octobeard, Friday, 10 November 2023 23:38 (six months ago) link
did dj shadow sample anything from herbie mann’s stone flute? some serious gothtempo vibes there
― brimstead, Friday, 10 November 2023 23:56 (six months ago) link