33 1/3 Series of books

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Congrats to Drew and Geeta! (Are there other ILMers on this list I don't know?)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ann powers is actually esteban buttez

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Scott P. has been around since the Greenspun days.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i wish you could get these easily in book stores (AND NOT JUST IN THE AEROPLANE MURMUR THE SEA LIKE ROUND HERE).

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

hey everybody read the frank bruno one and then try to make yrs like him cuz it is AWESOME

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i have only read 2

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

the franklin bruno one is not only awesome, it is superhuman. one of my fave pieces of rock criticism ever.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

yeah same here

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I loved that review he wrote of that indie-boy novel, so I guess I gotta get this book.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink


cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
DeRo disses Matos for doing (very well IMHO) what he himself does in like every review ever (poorly IEHO): http://www.suntimes.com/output/derogatis/sho-sunday-dero04.html

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 9 June 2006 17:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink


jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:06 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Jim Milonakis?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:48 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I found that one entertaining and was actually less satisfied with Michaelangelo Matos' self-indulgent look at Prince's "Sign o' the Times," which spent entirely too much time dwelling on how the author discovered the disc as a teenager in the Minneapolis suburbs.

So then I guess he didn't read the 100-odd pages in which Matos discussed Prince.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:48 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Shh, you're giving it away!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"...he not only gives us the perfect adjective for Sly's dense epic ("swampy," indeed) but the nugget that this was a pioneering use of the beat box. (Who knew? I didn't.)"


Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I just finished the one on PAUL'S BOUTIQUE. It's only the third I've read thus far, but it's the one I've enjoyed the most.

Terrible Cold (Terrible Cold), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The one supposedly on the Replacements was AWFUL!

Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Friday, 9 June 2006 21:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I just finished the one on PAUL'S BOUTIQUE. It's only the third I've read thus far, but it's the one I've enjoyed the most.

Yeah, it's all info, no prose. A lot of the 33 1/3 books seem to forget how much people like that.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink

personally speaking, i'd read a book that wasn't taking on yet another album from the canon. c'mon, guys! dig deeper!

gear (gear), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Christ, that quotation. Shakey OTM.

David Bachyrycz (David Bachyrycz), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

c'mon, guys! dig deeper!

Someone should do Tom T. Hall's greatest hits.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(That was a "dig deeper" joke in case it wasn't clear. LOL @ self.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I just fell asleep.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i've got an idea, fellas, let's create a book series in which we reinforce the canon some more.

seriously though, i realize the books have to sell, hence the more mainstream angle. i'm sure there are a ton of albums the writers would love to write about that aren't commercially viable for the publisher.

gear (gear), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink


Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ned you should pitch that one!

actually do you think they would let somebody self-33 1/3? if it was some famous musician?

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Morrissey on...Morrissey."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Morrissey did write a book actually! (didnt he?)

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

yeah, i think it was about the new york dolls or something

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

He founded the series in spirit!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i thought it was on James Dean, re: Moz's book

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Morrissey on...Morrissey."

Morrissey is not attracted to Morrissey.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i'm sure there are a ton of albums the writers would love to write about that aren't commercially viable for the publisher.

Carl Wilson is writing one about Celine Dion's "Let's Talk About Love".

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

You are all OTM regarding the Franklin Bruno Armed Forces book, but has anyone read Daphne A. Brooks' take on Grace? I found it largely disappointing for a number of reasons. For someone who's obviously deeply in love with the material and who has deeper access to the Buckley archives than most, she made some really frustrating, bizarre factual errors. Maybe I'm being overly-pedantic, but simple mistakes like misquoting lyrics kept me from enjoying and engaging in the book as much as I could have-- like I couldn't trust her after a certain point. Clearly, I'm an asshole, but did anyone else have problems with this?

Jeff Reguil0n (Talent Explosion), Saturday, 10 June 2006 03:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The Aeroplane book was excellent. The Pet Sounds book was not.

Steve Schneeberg (Steve Goldberg), Saturday, 10 June 2006 11:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Somebody pitched to do Killed by Death Vol. 2 for the last round of books. I would have loved to have read that!

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 10 June 2006 15:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

And that Kick Out the Jams book that DeRo praises was the worst I've read in the series--no original info or thinking whatsoever, and blandly told.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 10 June 2006 15:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I wanna see a 33 1/3 tome on the Melvins' "Stag."

Terrible Cold (Terrible Cold), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I enjoyed the books for The Piper at the Gates of Dawn and There's a Riot Goin On out of this series a lot.

Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

actually do you think they would let somebody self-33 1/3? if it was some famous musician?

This is more or less happening with LD Beghtol writing about 69 Love Songs. No idea how it's coming along; I haven't talked to him since the EMP Pop Conference.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

mr sherburne on something miniMAL would be good.

dh (djh), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I just finished reading a new batch.

The Stone Roses one was okay, not much in the way of new info and insights really (though I did learn that what I previously thought was just a guitar string squeak in "Elizabeth My Dear" was really supposed to be a silenced gunshot.)

The Riot one was excellent. I especially liked his first chapters talking from the point of view of someone who was there.

I had high hopes for the Endtroducing one since it's one of the few (only?) hip-hop books but it was really just one long interview with Shadow. Very boring, gross hyperbole at the beginning (the author says something along the lines of Endtroducing not sounding like anything before or since type crap) and Davis himself is not the most interesting of interviewees.

The VU and Nico had some informative info but Joe Harvard's writing style and attitude just rubbed me the wrong way.

Viz (Viz), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Anyone read the " Zeppelin IV" one? I've only read the one on Bowie's "Low" and liked it.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Zeppelin one is kind of over-the-top and fascinating, I recommend it

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I actually really liked the Shadow one.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:29 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"I actually really liked the Shadow one."

For this series, I've really enjoyed both the personal takes and insights gained from repeated close listenings that the authors bring to their books and the Endtroducing one was more like "here's an oral history of DJ Shadow" and it didn't focus enough on Endtroducing.

I think the format that was used for the Paul's Boutique book would have served Endtroducing a lot more, ie. context, process, funny stories behind the samples...

Viz (Viz), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I've read the In The Aeroplane one (PHENOMENAL) and the OK Computer one (just "meh"). I've been meaning to buy Doolittle and The Stone Roses and can't fucking wait for Loveless to come out. Now we just need Spiderland, Ege Bamyasi, Dummy, Suicide/First Album, ...I Care Because You Do, Neu! 1/2/'75 (you never really can choose one, can you?), Playing with Fire, Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space, etc etc etc.

less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Saturday, 15 July 2006 06:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Dleone should write all the kosmische/prog 33 1/3s

Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Saturday, 15 July 2006 20:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

oh! the one on Low by Bowie is fantastic for production/sound nerds

flappy bird, Friday, 7 April 2017 20:36 (seven months ago) Permalink

Just read Matos SOTT book and it was marvellous, just a joy (Nick I need to post it back to you!).

The Riot book is good but there's not much in it that's not taken from the In Their Own Words Sly book from the early 90s (which is $$$s and crazy rare now so fair enough)

hot bech babes lick the feemer and get the skeletor fever. (stevie), Saturday, 8 April 2017 17:33 (seven months ago) Permalink

Anyone read the Bitches Brew one?

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Sunday, 9 April 2017 10:46 (seven months ago) Permalink

I have it here but never finished it. Grella's a good writer, but the territory was too familiar - he wasn't telling me anything I didn't already know from reading a half dozen other books on Miles, album liner notes, etc., etc. If you're not up to your eyeballs in Davisiana, though, it's good.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 9 April 2017 12:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

Honestly, the more interesting Miles 33 1/3 would probably be On the Corner – the impact is just about as significant but the story and how the record was made is a bit less known. But who knows – maybe in a era where we have Phil's book, Tingen's book and the OTC box, even some of that may be well known enough.

I had an idea a gazillion years back to write one on Keith Jarrett's The Sun Bear Concerts—it's just such a 70s era artifact—but realized my submission would likely have a much better chance if I did the better known (and selling) Köln Concert.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 9 April 2017 14:11 (seven months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

anyone get round to the Sound Of Silver book yet? or does anyone have any other faves worth checking out? i couldn't get along with the OK Computer one at all.

piscesx, Sunday, 23 July 2017 12:52 (three months ago) Permalink

OK Computer might be the worst one. Been meaning to read the one for There's a Riot Goin On for ages, been sitting on my desk.

flappy bird, Sunday, 23 July 2017 15:03 (three months ago) Permalink

OK Computer and Achtung Baby are the worst one's i've read.

MaresNest, Sunday, 23 July 2017 16:24 (three months ago) Permalink

Call me old fashioned, but I've enjoyed most of the ones that stick to the expected formula: a little band history, a little making of the album, and maybe break it down for me track by track. And it really helps if they have access to the band to do interviews.

The book on Portishead's Dummy was my favorite example of this format, and it definitely gave me a deeper appreciation for that album.
(in the same vein: Bowie's Low, Aphex Twin's SAWII, Neutral Milk Hotel's Aeroplane, Pixies' Doolitte, Devo's Freedom of Choice)

And at the risk of immediately contradicting myself, Carl Wilson's book on Celine Dion completely breaks from that classic formula, but it's just a great piece of writing. A sort of treatise on taste, art, credibility, and hipsterdom, with Celine Dion as a framing device. That one could really exist outside of the series, since it's brimming over with big ideas.

enochroot, Monday, 24 July 2017 01:22 (three months ago) Permalink

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