At The Drive-in

Dude, is this addressed to me? I don't recall saying ATDI was your favorite band. I don't recall saying anything much about Pavement, either, other than (a) I don't think North of America sound much like them, and (b) I don't see ATDI as being any more skilled as instrumentalists than they are.

Ditto on Drive Like Jehu, who are postively MONSTROUS, especially live. I'm more of a "Yank Crime" (second album) man myself, but unfortunately I think it's outta print. (The perils of major labels...) Jehu were, along with MBV and the Swans, the LOUDEST band I've ever heard.

All this leaving aside the fact that virtuousity seems like a non- issue here: otherwise we'd be talking about Maria Callas or Joe Satriani.

what do you think, style maven?

My first post sure started this thread off on a good note, didn't it? Anyway, I am personally sick of music like ATDI. I'm tired of vocalists that sound constantly on the verge of pinching a big loaf. I'm tired of absolutely BLAH lyrics, empty sub-Cobainisms that say nothing but are supposed to be insightful. I'm tired of unjustified stop-starts and time-changes. I'm tired of seeing people grunting against their guitars like factory workers. And most of all, I'm tired of indie-boy afros.

This thread has reached the point where I'm wondering if Scott's not just playing us for suckers with his uber defensiveness. (I'd have to admit it would be pretty funny if that was the case.) The only other explaination I can figure is that the guy with the 'fro is related to him.

Also, I wish people wouldn't try to egg on an obviously already-petulant poster. Who cares? It's not worth your time.

"Hmmm. Attacking someones hair. Is that a TOS violation?"

then in the same breath

"Anyone with an afro looks pretty silly, but sub-Dischord white boys look especially ridiculous. " ---- Jes(dubplatestyle@hotmail.com), August 16, 2001. . . . . Thanks moderator, wan't sure if u got my email That acct didn't get validated properly

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people that can't think of anything else to say, so they harp on some minute point = dud

Jim Ward, [only 27]
http://www.dotmusic.com/news//May2003/news29560.asp
Jim Ward, guitarist for At The Drive-In, sometime member of The Mars Volta and lead singer with Sparta, has been found dead at his home in California.

Mars Volta Member Dies

Jeremy Ward, sound/vocal manipulator for At the Drive-In offshoots the Mars Volta and De Facto, died of an apparent drug overdose in his Los Angeles home on Sunday. He was 27 years old. The Mars Volta had just returned to L.A. to rest between legs supporting Red Hot Chili Peppers' North American tour. Jeremy was the brother of Sparta frontman/ex-ATDI guitarist Jim Ward.

http://www.punknews.org/article.php?sid=6163&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Reformation talk: http://www.nme.com/news/at-the-drive-in/45300

The only thing more surprising than this prospect, I'd say, is that of scores of self-important retards making out like it's somehow their fucking business if a band chooses to get back together to play their own music. Pretty sure that won't happen though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBUtkPrANRs

relationship of command is outstanding!!

not entirely confident omar was in tune for that one

assuming some overlap from the emo thread but a lot of us dig Youth Novel on here. just found this cover recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEgp96cysjg

One of my all time favorite concerts was seeing these guys open for The Get Up Kids in the student union at University of Illinois in 1999. I was there to see GUK (in my defense it was the '90s still) and I hadn't heard a note from these guys, but they absolutely killed despite playing for probably 75 people in an awkward interior courtyard space.

jim ward released a new solo album today btw. haven’t heard it

and while I'm here. Relationship of Command is one of the greatest albums ever made by anybody and it changed my life for the better but these days In/Casino/Out seems to be the only album I want to listen to by them. that and some of the Relationship b-sides that weren't on my cd version

if in/casino/out had slightly better production it would be their best in my mind no question. i say this knowing ppl hate the production of relationship of command, i personally love that it hurts my freakin ears

jim ward released a new solo album today btw. haven’t heard it

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, June 11, 2021 7:53 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

"blink twice" is pretty good... he should make a sparta album in this exact mode

i'm relistening to wiretap scars... forgot this excellent-sounding (if a little hotly mastered) record was recorded by jerry finn. makes deloused sound even more like a mountain of ass