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― Dr Morbius, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:34 (sixteen years ago) link
OK SO TIDELAND IS THE WORST MOVIE EVER EVER EVER PRETTY MUCH.
This is coming from someone who has great respect for Gilliam in general, but seriously, dude, the next time you want to put yourself through some sort of aggressive theraputic "finding yourself as a child" bullshit, leave it for the Terry Gilliam home video collection.
This movie is irredeemable. I watched it last night, and I'm still angry about it.
― John Justen, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link
You and Jeff should have liveblogged, then.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, it wasn't the fun kind of bad though.
― John Justen, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Well it could have been like a Beckett play, then.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 15:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Odd, seemingly insulting but not intended as such bit of trivia: Mentally handicapped weirdo sea-captain neighbor who lives next door looks strangely similar to ILX's own Tuomas.
― John Justen, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link
http://lembrowski.webblogg.se/images/tideland_1156706345.jpg
― John Justen, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link
haha I thought that too JJ
― nickalicious, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.moviehabit.com/photos/tideland_150.jpg
― John Justen, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link
That bad, huh? I am not looking forward to seeing Tideland. But I will, anyway.
― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link
This is one of those few times where I actually wish that I hadn't seen a movie, because after this and "Brothers Grimm", I think I'm going to be incapable of speaking of Gilliam as a great director in the present tense.
Maybe the Don Quixote curse actually finished him off. I know this, I doubt I'll make an effort to see anything he does from here on out.
― John Justen, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Munchausen and Time Bandits Gilliam's best? This seems like perversity for the sake of perversity.
I love Terry Gilliam, although the two movies above did very little for me. 12 monkeys, Brazil and the Fisher King, on the other hand, are among my favourite films ever. 12 monkeys predictable? Really? Wow - you have fine prediction skills.
― hobart paving, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Hey FB, the best way I can describe it is that "Tideland" is Gilliam trying to make "The Reflecting Skin" without the story to back it up, the actors to pull it off, or the courage to commit to making a disturbing movie without softening the harsh edges with over-bearing cute kid moments and (I kid you not) overuse of fart jokes.
― John Justen, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Ugh. I'm trying to convince myself to move this movie out of my queue, but, you know, it's TG, so I'm having a hard time letting go.
― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link
I guess there really is a Tuomas after all!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I like Time Bandits best.
― chap, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link
John, so you're saying that he movie falls from the perverse to the ugly by virtue of his inability to make up his mind what this movie is about, and by generally inadequate artistic direction.
(I'm trying to talk myself out of this)
― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I'll admit, I suspect it isn't as bad as I feel it is now, so I guess it's worth watching. It was just one of those visceral, angry moments of disappointment in watching a director completely fumble.
It is possible that the source material is a significant part of the problem. It is at times a very visually stunning movie, and there are moments that do work, but it still ended up as a half-assed Lynch film with no underlying psychology, or a movie with such a private language that it feels intentionally and mean-spiritedly incomprehensible.
xpost, but probably an answer of sorts.
― John Justen, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link
His cartoons on Monty Python are by far my least favorite part of the show. I always fast forward. Sorry to distract from filmic convo. I just had to get that off my chest.
― Abbott, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah in retrospect I can't quite fathom how a movie featuring a farting taxidermied dead The Dude wasn't at all funny.
― nickalicious, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Peter Stormare was funny as shit in Brothers Grimm.
― nickalicious, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Fuck it. I liked Tideland, even if no one else on ILX did.
I also think the animated Python bits are sometimes the best bits of the show.
― the next grozart, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Talking about the possibilities for a Terry Gilliam movie is almost always superior to watching a Terry Gilliam movie. Fear and Loathing is entertaining in small doses and 12 Monkeys is probably OK - but I can't think of anything else I've seen that was passable. (Have not seen Brazil.)
― milo z, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:48 (sixteen years ago) link
abbott u crazy
― max, Friday, 8 June 2007 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link
12 Monkeys is wonderful, as is Brazil, although Brazil's wonder is completely overshadowed by the final shot, which obliterates more or less all that came before it in a devastating emotional smackdown. One of the finest endings in film history IMO.
― Just got offed, Friday, 8 June 2007 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link
like many gilliam misfires, i felt like I could see the bones of a really good film buried somewhere in there, but it never quite makes it out from underneath all the mess.
That's how he gets me every time, even after being disappointed so many times, theres always this sense that theres a great movie thats tantalizingly close to snapping into place, but then it just lurches and stumbles around and smashes into stuff until it collapses from exhaustion.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link
He actually had a pretty good streak going until Fear and Loathing. Then there was a long gap, and it's been kind of flop-city ever since then.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link
the last one that entirely satisfied me was Time Bandits
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 August 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
I would say Brazil but... yeah
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 August 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
no wait I mean Baron Munchausen
twelve monkeys and id listen to a case for parnassus
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 August 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
Time Bandits is my fave - what a batshit movie. But I really like 12 Monkeys and Fisher King.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 August 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link
A strong read.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jun/12/sarah-polley-terry-gilliam-run-towards-danger-baron-munchausen-interview
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 June 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link
Very well written. Also solves the puzzle of why she didn’t use any explosives in Stories We Tell.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 13 June 2022 03:54 (one year ago) link