yeah .. i know that stuff is ££ now - hence my concern re tracking some old copies down.weirdly i did wonder re don martin .. i thought i had seen his stuff in CRACKED but given previous posts re him and MAD etc, thought this was a false memory .. used to have some DM books as well.he was such a massive talent ..
― mark e, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:04 (six years ago) link
for some reason I thought CRACKED grab Sergio Aragones at one point too
― his girlfriend was all 'ugh and he wears a solar backpack' (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:05 (six years ago) link
but yeah they were always 2nd-tier
us brits always love the underdog ..
― mark e, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:10 (six years ago) link
p sure aragones never worked for CRACKED
mark, if you like don martin it's worth hunting round for this MASSIVE complete box set of all his MAD magazine work (doesn't include the original paperback material as that's still owned by the Martin estate) - i picked up my copy in a London remainder shop for well under £30 (and then had to lug it all the way back to glasgow!), and i'm sure there are copies to be had online - it's a stunner
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:12 (six years ago) link
ah yeah a friend has that. it's amazing to thumb through.
― his girlfriend was all 'ugh and he wears a solar backpack' (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:14 (six years ago) link
I got a remainder from The Strand, and they shipped it to my house for whatever their flat fee is - $4.50 or something. It's amazing.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:16 (six years ago) link
oh my god.that looks properly fantastic .. f*ck .. i want that.
― mark e, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:16 (six years ago) link
£125 on amazon ..
dream on ..
― mark e, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:17 (six years ago) link
unless his recent illness has slowed him down, Aragones has only missed one issue of Mad in forty years - of course he's fast enough to have had a falling out, done a year's worth of work for Cracked in an afternoon and then gone back to Mad, but I doubt it
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:22 (six years ago) link
I'm probably just misremembering when they got Don Martin, thought there were some other MAD guys that went with him for some reason
― his girlfriend was all 'ugh and he wears a solar backpack' (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:29 (six years ago) link
no, that was a big and solo deal - iirc Cracked didn't generally grant copyright but they made the exception to snag Martin. and only because he'd already walked from Mad over royalties - it wasn't a headhunting per se.
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:49 (six years ago) link
(actually if Mort Todd was still editor then he might have relaxed copyright policies generally - I think he and Clowes own The Uggly Family)
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:52 (six years ago) link
but they made the exception to snag Martin.
fascinating stuff ..
this is proper 'mad men' styled politics but with fat noses as opposed to ... well, you figure the rest out ..
― mark e, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:54 (six years ago) link
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Friday, 15 March 2013 01:20 (six years ago) link
Film Comment on Mad's movie parodies:
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 March 2013 21:48 (six years ago) link
r.i.p. bob clarke:
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:35 (six years ago) link
This has to be one of the most trenchant and cutting(and clever) political gags(on the cover, even) they've done in, what, decades?
― Your Own Personal El Guapo (kingfish), Monday, 16 September 2013 07:20 (six years ago) link
Al Feldstein has passed
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 19:16 (five years ago) link
ah man RIP. thanks for the excellent comics. the art book that came out recently was great.
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 19:31 (five years ago) link
― fit and working again, Friday, 2 May 2014 16:53 (five years ago) link
Hey, does anyone remember a piece in Mad from the early-mid 80s that was like "honest stickers on albums" that had lots of sick burns on Springsteen, and Stevie Nicks solo albums, and Stevie Wonder's Musiquarium was a rip-off for anyone who had his albums? And (and this is a longshot) anyone remember which issue it might have been, or somewhere I can find it online?
― please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Monday, 12 October 2015 12:46 (four years ago) link
There were at least 2 installments, of which the second ran in Mad #270 - which includes Springsteen ("This may be your last chance to enjoy this artist before marriage turns him into a wimp").
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Monday, 12 October 2015 15:45 (four years ago) link
First installment: Mad #262 - this one with Stevie Nicks ("Solo album by member of a hit group. One artist out of five means album is only one-fifth as good").
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Monday, 12 October 2015 15:53 (four years ago) link
holy shit - thank you so much sebastian!
― please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:19 (four years ago) link
i swear i have never stopped thinking about that stevie nicks one
Wow, this is critical:
Al Jaffee Explains How Mad Magazine Made American Humor Jewish
The adamant refusal of the editors to explain the made-up word became a running joke. Today, Mad scholars theorize that potrzebie was in fact based on a Polish word that Kurtzman discovered on a jar of aspirin. According to Jaffee, though, this is not the case: “There was an expression in Lithuania when I was a kid — “putz-rebbe.” Harvey must have heard that. Putz is genitals and it is applied as an insult to the rebbe. It’s like saying, ‘Oh that stupid teacher’ or ‘putz-rebbe.’”
― Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 17:42 (four years ago) link
Reaching mass new readerships and training them to laugh at and challenge broader trends, Mad Magazine can be seen as a central force destabilizing mainstream platforms, and at times doing so from a Jewish American perspective. And as Jaffee pointed out, not only were they writers and artists taking down the mainstream world, they were also “making fun of ourselves. We made fun of a certain kind of Yiddishkeit just by using these words. Farshimmelt. Furshlugenner. Potrzebie.” Yet in the act of satirizing both worlds, the magazine transformed itself into a mainstream American voice. And in its evolution, Mad taught its broad readership to be more comfortable with New York Jewish culture. By the 1970s and 1980s, the writers’ rooms in virtually every sitcom on American TV were filled with men who had grown up reading Mad. If “Seinfeld” became the number one show in suburban Texas or in Boise, Idaho, it was in part because Mad had paved the way.Read more: http://forward.com/culture/yiddish-culture/333672/al-jaffee-explains-how-mad-magazine-made-american-humor-jewish/#ixzz410y84BXE
Read more: http://forward.com/culture/yiddish-culture/333672/al-jaffee-explains-how-mad-magazine-made-american-humor-jewish/#ixzz410y84BXE
― Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 17:51 (four years ago) link
Jack Davis valentines
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 18:46 (three years ago) link
Bought my first Mad in 25 years and I’m going to read this bastard cover-to-cover pic.twitter.com/9rQNVDIDvA— Matt Prigge (@mattprigge) August 10, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:47 (one year ago) link
theoretically v intersted in looking at an issue of the Morrison / Goertz Brand New Gang Of Idiots era but literally never occurs to me to go and find a place that sells it
― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:22 (one year ago) link
I've spent the last few days since I saw this photo trying to work out what the lion's facial expression reminds me of, realized this morning that it's one of those Mad Magazine covers where someone gags at the sight of Alfred E Neuman
― soref, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 08:18 (one year ago) link
whom amongst us is actually too young to know about this storied publication
― mh, Monday, 13 May 2019 20:10 (nine months ago) link
no one who should be president
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 May 2019 20:21 (nine months ago) link
I’ve checked out a few issues of the Burbank version now and: it’s good!
― blokes you can't rust (sic), Monday, 13 May 2019 20:39 (nine months ago) link
Yeah, I picked up the recent issue with the Plop #1 reprint inside and enjoyed it - great Drew Friedman page especially - shame that they've given Bill Morrison the elbow
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 08:35 (nine months ago) link
oh? [googles] ha ha ha oh man, DiDio and Lee sitting on an executive panel to decide which executives to fire, and picking Chiarello and Morrison without bursting into flames from shame immediately
― blokes you can't rust (sic), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 08:57 (nine months ago) link
the pre-Morrison editor responds to Mayor Pete Buttigieg: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/14/pete-buttigieg-alfred-e-neuman-i-dont-see-it-i-also-dont-buy-mayors-response/
― blokes you can't rust (sic), Thursday, 16 May 2019 08:17 (nine months ago) link
so...mad may be ending, at least according to this post i've seen linked to a couple times on twitter
:( if true, of course
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 4 July 2019 01:30 (seven months ago) link
― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 July 2019 03:12 (seven months ago) link
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 4 July 2019 05:28 (seven months ago) link
Tracerhand’s post here is among the most affecting things I’ve read on this site. Mad magazine C/D
― Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 4 July 2019 05:53 (seven months ago) link
thank you for saying so. i will always remember it. and guess what - i found that raiders of the lost ark issue :)to me it's not the same with glossy color pages tbh.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:30 (seven months ago) link
I was wondering why this thread kept rising to the top. Motherfucking DC, there really isn't anything they can't effortlessly ruin these days.
― I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 July 2019 13:44 (seven months ago) link
what a wonderful post tracer
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 July 2019 14:28 (seven months ago) link
feels unbelievable that this was only three years ago
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 4 July 2019 19:54 (seven months ago) link
he outlasted Nelson
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 4 July 2019 19:56 (seven months ago) link
i've been reading mad's latest incarnation and it is doing good work so i am not surprised DC plans to shut it down and allow red hood and the outlaws unlimited rope to play out
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:29 (seven months ago) link
didn't realise this was out yet - Brian Hibbs running the 2018 bookstore numbers:
Our #8 publisher in the Top 750 is DC Entertainment.This is, frankly, shocking to me. For the first decade-plus I have been doing these charts, DC’s attention to backlist had naturally rendered them the #1 publisher…. With a bullet! And even when, the last few years, they lost the #1 spot to Scholastic, they were still majorly, significantly always at least #2.
weird how if you fire the two employees most responsible for building the company's backlist from zero over the previous three decades, and aim at selling your own re-re-rebooted IP only on Wednesdays, your sales might go down?
Year # of placing titles Unit sales Calculated Retail price[2003-2014 skipped]2015* 119 1,074,304 $21,701,0882016* 117 1,234,047 $23,203,0712017 101 827,544 $15,234,5252018 47 360,414 $7,810,753
6% of DC's annual book sales still come from three 1980s Alan Moore books, two of which they stole from him and his co-authors.
One of Karen Berger’s books is Dark Horse’s 3rd best-seller in bookstores: “Anthony Bourdain’s Hungry Ghosts” with just over 14k. RIP, man.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 19 July 2019 08:13 (seven months ago) link
and aim at selling your own re-re-rebooted IP only on Wednesdays
yesterday: brain genius announcing to panels at SDCC that he's mad at the collections department for proposing and executing financially successful reprint projects bcz he only wants to sell new stuff that people don't like, instead of stuff that people enjoy
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 22 July 2019 00:45 (seven months ago) link
Hold off on the one-shot, though. It's being collected in a couple months alongside a bunch of old-school material.
― Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 18:07 (four months ago) link
unless his recent illness has slowed him down, Aragones has only missed one issue of Mad in forty years (...)
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Friday, March 15, 2013 8:22 AM (six years ago)
Sergio's still on an unbroken run after missing that issue in 1967. Dick DeBartolo had been on an unbroken run since Jun 1966, but the new issue of the mostly-reprint version drops next week without him in it.
(Aragones is on 451 issues in a row, DeBartolo's streak ends at 459 issues.)
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 22:51 (one week ago) link
Cool, Hadn't seen this thread before---here's my trib to the original, Kurtzman-edited Mad, with a link to early 50s pop culture investigator Robert Warshow's account of visit to Mad offices, with his young son Paul, who'd turned him on to thee rag (another link to email conversation saga w mark s and others, from which this sprang):https://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/2019/09/re-landscape-envy-ur-mad.html
― dow, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 23:10 (one week ago) link
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, July 5, 2019 5:54 AM (seven months ago)
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Saturday, 22 February 2020 01:43 (four days ago) link
It sad, he was a publishorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxoEpVDGvPE
― Hot, Now, and Oh-So-Very Wow! (Old Lunch), Saturday, 22 February 2020 02:06 (four days ago) link