Origins of the faux-naif bloggy voice?

so youve been to reddit

feel liek w krugman it prob fits the way he sees himself/the world better than some authoritative bigshot tone does

its very american in that sense

― 乒乓, Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:10 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i feel like there's a twain-quality in what some ppl are going for, even though the actual voice isn't very twain at all.

"And they act like because they use math, their “science” is more sciencey than sociology or whatever"

It should be fairly obvious that Pareene chose this tone because the column was discussing a study by economists of why more economists are not heads of state and he wished to convey the equivalent of a 15 year old saying "well, duh".

― Aimless, Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:47 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The problem I have with this tone in this case is that (1) I can't even entirely tell what level of irony it is and I'm not sure he can either (is he parroting this exceedingly skeptical statement because he fully agrees with it, or is his exaggeratedly childish tone supposed to convey some sketpicism about the skepticism as well? And if so, what does he actually think about economists?) and (2) if he's actually adopting the statement fully, it comes off as a little too easily dismissive in an unearned way -- young blogger reminds us that OF COURSE economics is all just a bunch of bullshit dressed up with fancy numbers, etc.

well it is!

i knew you guys wouldn't let me down. now i have more to read. i can't believe that old spy magazine faux-naif article isn't online. its a crime against humanity! way ahead of its time. think it also had the accompanying pictures of celebrities wearing geeky glasses.

i have no idea what my internet voice sounds like. maybe i don't want to know. or do i? i dunno. lol.

it's a partially true hyperbole that makes a point, but it's not literally true

xp

young blogger reminds us that OF COURSE economics is all just a bunch of bullshit dressed up with fancy numbers, etc.

― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:25 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is in a way p accurate as economics biggest problem is the quality of their data, which they then dress up in fancy equations

reminder that economics is a social science ; )

pareene uses that exact same tone and voice in every single piece of his. i enjoy most of his stuff but i think he could stand to ease up a little on the 'um, because that like sucks, dude!' shtick.

he obv got it from ilx

'if by it you mean hepatitis c than yes'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Elr5K2Vuo

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you could have at least chosen a dn that wasn't a regurgitated joke from 5 years ago to post itt with

think there might be some crossover between this and The Tyranny of Humour

this is in a way p accurate as economics biggest problem is the quality of their data, which they then dress up in fancy equations

― lag∞n, Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:32 PM

boy u sure know a lot about stuff or whatever

133 isn't even very many posts, I feel like you should have waited til like 250 to make the statement

this is in a way p accurate as economics biggest problem is the quality of their data, which they then dress up in fancy equations

― lag∞n, Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:32 PM

boy u sure know a lot about stuff or whatever

― am0n, Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:51 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is like a well known thing, not trying to be fancy or w/e, folks

well shucks :B

everyone and their grandma already knows that the entire field of study is a complete crock

http://24.media.tumblr.com/e193a4e290a2c3683f7e325fc4448345/tumblr_mjm2kdTOHE1rshsako2_250.gif

Is the Tiger Beatdown/Wonkette style of comedy writing an ultra-exaggerated version of this voice, or its own beast? (Deliberately stilted/simple sentences! Exclamations marks! HERE IS A SENTENCE IN ALL CAPS, BECAUSE WHY NOT?)

that's gawker

http://25.media.tumblr.com/5159848d4a4911f01443fe2e6fa5fc3b/tumblr_mjlzty1o8m1qfoj4do1_500.gif

feel like another possible target of blame w/r/t all this stuff is......... wait for it.................. indie rock.

i blame the guy in the hat with the old man voice

wayne coyne

shawn mullins

yeah indie twee mentioned on here. that's as old as the hills though.

x-post

i support all of these tone options and every one of them is grating when it's used without any other discernible ambition beyond trying to identify with readers who have no discernible ambition beyond wanting to be identified with.

or something. *submits post*

"sciencey stuff" was my least favorite line in the pareene thing but everything else was cathartically otm (again)

what i should be called out on wrt that "artificially enrhythmed" bullshit last night is my constant+notentirelyunconscious use of "like"

not that i expect people to like keep tabs on me that close i'm just saying i reread it and thought lol

Is the Tiger Beatdown/Wonkette style of comedy writing an ultra-exaggerated version of this voice, or its own beast? (Deliberately stilted/simple sentences! Exclamations marks! HERE IS A SENTENCE IN ALL CAPS, BECAUSE WHY NOT?)

― blatherskite, Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:02 PM (42 minutes ago)

i assumed this is what the thread was about, but yeah people who write like this are terrible

that was the style that preceded the one were talking about

yeah i really can't stand that. i was fine w tiger beatdown for a while because it was the first place i'd seen it and it was novel and then it became the "ladyblog" voice and crept into the tone of writers i otherwise like and :/. i associate it w tumblr; idk if that's on point or anything.

Beats. Bush-era. Simpsons. Irony. Every. Time.

Faux-naive vs. Shocked, shocked.

Really the only pleasure in any of this is twofold: seeing who adopts this voice (esp late adopters) and trying to figure out why and 2) seeing who resists the adoption of this voice and trying to figure out why

who are the joiners/nonjoiners, basically.

yeah i'll take all of this over the moral shock + lurid sneer of fox-style tabloid reporting. xp

what about ned always being speechless on facebook all the time everytime he posts a wacky link. where does that fit in. lol love the ned.

speechless...

*youtube video of an otter farting*

what about people who preface everything they say with a disclaimer: "you know i like ____, but [outrageous thing about _____]"

i love that -- the people who do it always do it so reliably!

choire sicha is the origin of this bloggy voice

hes drawing on dfw but its basically him, hes the guy

he also does it better than anyone

is he the new pope

Is the Tiger Beatdown/Wonkette style of comedy writing an ultra-exaggerated version of this voice, or its own beast? (Deliberately stilted/simple sentences! Exclamations marks! HERE IS A SENTENCE IN ALL CAPS, BECAUSE WHY NOT?)

this is the pre-2003 version of internet writing i think i said this already

do you guys actually read lots of blogs? or have favorites. in 2013. i never look at them unless someone links to some dumb/outraged thing. the outrage of the day. the dumbness of the day. i don't even know why i look at those. i got some old journal of popular culture mags from the 70's the other day and they were very entertaining. and i went on the website of that mag and every single recent article is either about vampires, zombies, or superheroes. almost. or reality t.v. i am sure they are getting bushels of essays on the show Girls as we speak. there is a singlemindedness to mod pop cult discourse and it just seems so samey and zeitgeist-y to the max. i dunno. lol.

i'm sure academic types see the same stuff all the time too. the same zombie essays over and over. zombies and consumer culture, blah, blah. its all so fucking american too. i need to broaden my horizons. those 70's mags had all kinds of weird shit in them.