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I don't know why but seeing brett peform with a guitar feels wrong.
a bit like jagger.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

He got pretty good at the guitar though - he accompanies himself capably at his solo shows.

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

The "All you need is everything" backing vocals on Let Go are just killing me right now. Great to see it was a hit somewhere else but yeah as I said they should have put it out as a single here.

I was watching some of the interviews for those 2011 reissues. They asked Brett about A New Morning and why they put Oceans (probably the best song on A New Morning) hidden away as a bonus track, Brett just said "I've no idea" They really did make a lot of strange decisions in those last few years. A New Morning could have been almost decent if they had included Oceans, Simon, Let Go, Cheap, Instant Sunshine, You Belong to me along with Obsessions and maybe Lost in TV (I forget what the other decent songs on that album were)

Anyway back to the new album. I'm really starting to wonder how this album is going to sell next week, I really don't have any idea how well it will do.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

This is a massive improvement upon A New Morning. I would go as far to say I love it. Nice one, Suede.

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago) link

i love that i was alerted to this record via facebook by the lead singer of aerosmith.

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 02:08 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know why but seeing brett peform with a guitar feels wrong.
a bit like jagger.

did he play the guitars on "The Power"?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 02:14 (eleven years ago) link

checks to see if i own this single with "Let Go" on it...well yes i do. it is about were i stopped buying their singles however.

2010 and 2012 World Champions San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 02:18 (eleven years ago) link

did he play the guitars on "The Power"?

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:14 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nope, he didn't... a session guitarist came in and basically recreated the guitar parts from the demo that Bernard had left behind. The session guy was uncredited on the album, and to my knowledge remains uncredited.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

so I've listened to the album.
I have to say I don't really understand the enthusiasm.
I didn't find it interesting at all (not a single song grabbed me).
I guess I'm not a suedehead anymore !
maybe I'll give it another chance...

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

I love this album! I feel like a nutso teen fan again, which is probably what they were going for.

rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

hum. I must be missing something !

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

I think Bloodsports might be my album of the year so far, this feels really odd. I haven't bought an album on the day of release in a while but today is one of those days.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 18 March 2013 08:50 (eleven years ago) link

Me in the Quietus about being a forlorn(ish) American fan:

http://thequietus.com/articles/11661-suede-america

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 March 2013 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

A friend of mine saw them here behind that first album, when the group was iirc opening for some bigger band ... Belly? I do remember Radiohead opening for Belly. Anyway, he recalls a pretty serious case of gay panic among the dudes in the crowd, who did not dig Suede's prancing androgyny. At the same time, I recall the mocking members of the Juliana Hatfield band or Lemonheads or some combination offered to sleep with Brett after he made that boneheaded claim of being "a bisexual who has never had a homosexual experience." Same with Oasis, I guess, the US just wasn't ready for the confrontational ego of a band acting larger than life, since we were in the midst of grunge's false modesty.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 March 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

Cranberries, I'm guessing. Same time of year (fall 1993).

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 March 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

Gotta admit, this is pretty good. After a couple of listens, I definitely prefer the second half of the record. Reviews made it sound like it ended in a series of dreary ballads but this isn't the case at all. More like mid-paced melodrama.

Mat Osman is kind of an unsung figure in rock, but some of the best bits of the album are on his bass.

The only negative is that Suede remain the band most likely to make you think your speakers are fucked. Someone should have turned the reverb down just a notch.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 18 March 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

I recall the mocking members of the Juliana Hatfield band or Lemonheads or some combination offered to sleep with Brett after he made that boneheaded claim of being "a bisexual who has never had a homosexual experience.

was it? The interview, which appeared in Select, began with the JHT guys baiting Suede but the reporter added no inflections. I took it...straight.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 March 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

Gotta admit, this is pretty good. After a couple of listens, I definitely prefer the second half of the record. Reviews made it sound like it ended in a series of dreary ballads but this isn't the case at all. More like mid-paced melodrama.

― Eyeball Kicks

I'm starting to agree with that, the first half is so instant and really good but those ballads at the end just keep sounding better and better. Hit Me is still my favourite song on here by quite a long way but surprisingly there isn't any filler.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 18 March 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

i see this is coming out in America tomorrow, wonder if they will still add London to their name?

2010 and 2012 World Champions San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 02:17 (eleven years ago) link

Press release I got calls them the London Suede.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

Yup. And on iTunes as well. rmg;lrsgjshjtjt;a

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

I'm so shocked at the good reaction this album has had, even from the critics.

http://www.metacritic.com/music/bloodsports/suede/critic-reviews

It really does deserve it though. Listening to it last night I realised I actually like as much as Coming Up. It's totally turned me back into a Suede fanboy.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:19 (eleven years ago) link

When I was in America a couple of years back I bought a copy of Coming Up by The London Suede and took it back for my friend in the UK. He was delighted and just couldn't believe they had to do that name change in the first place. I should get him some Charlatans UK too next time I'm there.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

I actually like the name London Suede, and find it much better than Suede UK.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:58 (eleven years ago) link

Always makes me think of London Fog, though.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:58 (eleven years ago) link

I like The British Suede and think they should be called that everywhere all the time. See also: The Chelmsford Squarepusher, The British Bolt Thrower, Morrissey UK and Anglo-Blur.

Doran, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 08:42 (eleven years ago) link

At least the US band the Charlatans was fairly popular and still shows up frequently on '60s psych-pop comps; I've never heard of the American Suede except in regard to the legal tussle with the popular British band.

Lee626, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 10:38 (eleven years ago) link

Is this a thing? For some reason all these "XYZ UK" bands are all late 80s - early 90s

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 10:55 (eleven years ago) link

xpost That's why I think it's hilarious, that some DC area folk singer that no one has heard of forced Suede to change its name in the US.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

xp - oops I meant: is this STILL a thing?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 13:04 (eleven years ago) link

this sounds good but pluralizing "bloodsport" is simply terrible

not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

pluralising sport is simply terrible

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

It should be pluralized "spurts."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

Bloodspurts.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

bloodsports is usually plural isn't it? (at least in UK)

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

Bloodmaths.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

Joining the chorus of this being surprising good.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

ditto. Not sure about the final couple of tracks though, give me more like 'it starts and ends with you'

kinder, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

The only negative is that Suede remain the band most likely to make you think your speakers are fucked. Someone should have turned the reverb down just a notch.

― Eyeball Kicks, Monday, March 18, 2013 9:09 PM (4 days ago)

I've also never heard such a bad mastering job. The clipping on tracks 8 and 10, especially, is nuts.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 22 March 2013 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

PLEASE SAY HELLO TO YOUR DRUMMER
HE WAS CONSISTENTLY LOVELY WITH ME

is the drummer the gay one?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

is the drummer the gay one?

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, March 22, 2013 3:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yup!

Still very much enjoying this album!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 22 March 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

consistently lovely with me

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

I've got two of the bonus tracks, but the Japanese-only one and the 7" single tracks are still out there...somewhere.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

The clipping on tracks 8 and 10, especially, is nuts.

Do you mean that the recording is distorted? I should revisit those tracks and check it out. Not sure what you mean though.

MikoMcha, Saturday, 23 March 2013 10:01 (eleven years ago) link

The recording is distorted, yes, because it has been mastered to be too loud. Clipping sounds like crackling, not so different from your speakers being fucked or the noise you get when the reception on a radio isn't so great.

On track 8, What Are You Not Telling Me?, the crackling is worst from 2:23 to 2:40, but it's all over the track and other tracks.

Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 23 March 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

this got me listening to Dog Man Star again - Christ that record is nearly perfect

not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 23 March 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

The recording is distorted, yes, because it has been mastered to be too loud. Clipping sounds like crackling, not so different from your speakers being fucked or the noise you get when the reception on a radio isn't so great.

On track 8, What Are You Not Telling Me?, the crackling is worst from 2:23 to 2:40, but it's all over the track and other tracks.

― Eyeball Kicks

Yeah I noticed it on this song too, thought it was just the download I had. I am away from my CD's at the moment so can't compare it against a real copy.

Sad to see this album is looking like missing the top ten in the album chart. Album sales are so low at the moment I thought this would chart a lot higher. If the The courteeners can shift almost 30,000 copies of their album I thought Suede would easily be able to do the same.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 24 March 2013 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

Still proud of calling Dog Man Stae my fave of 1994.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 March 2013 02:53 (eleven years ago) link


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