I didn't think she changed many of the lyrics? except for "white kate moss" (lol)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
dude lecturing shosh on going out to eat was hilarious.
― s.clover, Monday, 11 March 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
I missed the last two episodes. Watching ep 08 right now, still pretty good. Kinda weird that this OCD stuff is turning up in S02E08 but okay whatever dude. I can go w it. Maybe the pressure is getting to Hannah.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 March 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
Like, for someone in Hannah's position, who wants to EXPERIENCE EVERYTHING and stuff, dabbling in OCD is just another experience to experiment with.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 March 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
That scene w Ray & Marnie SO GOOD. Magician's assistant LOL.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 March 2013 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
on the wrong track there. its done as pretty longstanding and harrowing. it does feel artificial tho.
― s.clover, Monday, 11 March 2013 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
(wrt ocd)
Good take:http://blogs.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist/2013/03/girls_episode_9_season_2_tackl.php
― your fretless ways (Eazy), Monday, 11 March 2013 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that pretty much hits all the points that were on my mind after that ep.
― the 'dirty sprite' is implied (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 March 2013 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
I was cringing horribly at the q tip scenes.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 March 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
as soon as she started using it i couldn't get this horrifying yelp out of my head:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONvpWa-8moY
― Gukbe, Monday, 11 March 2013 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
jesus,that ad!
― the 'dirty sprite' is implied (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 March 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
I want that wax vac!
Idk, I think the OCD is portrayed pretty realistically. I do agree that it coming on so strong out of nowhere this late in the game did make it seem tacked-on, but tbf a lot of people do experience symptoms in waves & in response to triggers. Still, it would've been better if there had been some intimations of it (only one I can think of is dad at beginning of the series worrying that she's always been so anxious) beyond just general neurosis.
― emilys., Monday, 11 March 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
Also can't believe Charlie would bone Marnie after that atrocity.
i am catching up after missing a few eps and holy crap frank's butt hair
― 乒乓, Monday, 11 March 2013 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
Wait, who's Frank? You think I would remember a hairy bum
― emilys., Monday, 11 March 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
for me butt hair - hair that's parted in the middle on a guy
― 乒乓, Monday, 11 March 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
ty for clarifying
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
it looks like a butt
― 乒乓, Monday, 11 March 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I agree that Hannah's ocd could have been hinted at, but I find her portrayal pretty realistic too. not really based on any personal experience, it just 'feels' kind of right somehow.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
I had a vague memory of Hannah's OCD coming up in her big argument with Marnie, and I was right! "You've been crazy since middle school, when you had to masturbate eight times a night to 'stave off diseases of the mind and body'." Also, this argument is interesting having seen Marnie's trajectory this season. Also, INTENSE.
― hot young stalin (Merdeyeux), Monday, 11 March 2013 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
good recollection Merdeyeux.
― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Monday, 11 March 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
― your fretless ways (Eazy), Monday, March 11, 2013 11:02 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I am kind of o_O at this blog post's "this wasn't quite rape" thesis.
― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Monday, 11 March 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
Haven't read post yet ^, but was about to post on here, and I might (deservingly) catch holy hell for this, but I'm not sure it was rape? I need to rewatch the scene. She was not into it & he knew that, but she didn't explicitly withdraw consent. This is something I need to define for myself moreso than to anyone on the board, because lord knows I've been in some gray areas like that.
― emilys., Monday, 11 March 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
that is the entire point of the scene
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Monday, 11 March 2013 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
Unrelated: I have really enjoyed Marnie's flailing in this season in light of what a pretentious snot she was in the 1st season. Even though Hannah is also falling apart, she's the one who actually is closer to the kind of success Marnie wants so desperately.
I also loved the way Ray smiled at Shosh after her psuedo-confession.
(Fictional thing, so should be referring to events in present tense? oh well)
― emilys., Monday, 11 March 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I get that was the point, so why do I feel like I'm sticking my neck out saying I'm not sure if I would consider it rape?
(I also think there were other points to the scene--Adam's vulnerability and how he deals with it, but no one is really crying for Adam today)
― emilys., Monday, 11 March 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
i think it's worth making the distinction between something that constitutes criminality and, you know, "legal" culpability and just being really (intentionally, in this case) shitty and evil and abusive without making *any* concessions or excuses for the latter.
― ryan, Monday, 11 March 2013 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
i mean it's classic taking advantage of presumed trust and intimacy in order to humiliate kinda stuff.
― ryan, Monday, 11 March 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
He went from someone who has murky boundaries to someone with very particular, articulated boundaries
Trying to think back, but there were definitely some times where Hannah was not happy with what was going down sexually, but she went with it for the sake of "gathering experience" & also because it's harder to tell if you're being violated when you haven't really defined your own boundaries to yourself. I think the accumulation of those experiences, though, made her much firmer when he was showing up at her apt and shit.
― emilys., Monday, 11 March 2013 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
The very first scene is him in her butt without consent, no?
― your fretless ways (Eazy), Monday, 11 March 2013 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
her mother is gonna be pissed
― johnny crunch, Monday, 11 March 2013 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
that whole phonecall to her parents with her mom shouting NOTHING SMALLER THAN YOUR ELBOW SHOULD GO IN YOUR EAR HANNAH made me lol
#classicparents
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
iirc he was joking, she was uncomfortable because she didn't know if he was but wouldn't set boundaries
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Monday, 11 March 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
all caught up:
-appreciate the background w/ jessa's family but I sort of map s.clover's point upthread about afflictions onto this - yah its prob p humanizing but... idk dont know if I buy it, feels like they were trying way too hard to make her family seem abnormal. the line that stuck out to me was jessa's about the vows meaning something... like that makes sense if all she was really looking for was some sort of stability, semblance of normative domesticity... idk though. -lol @ charlie being surrounded by hot chicks 94/7 in his lil' startup-didn't really buy hannah's OCD at first but i don't know anything about OCD. feels like they're introducing it so late for the sake of having a big denoument in the finale-so many cringes @ marnie singing, really great touch that she would just cover a song and change some of the lyrics - of course shes not gonna have any original material-we sort of all knew this was coming w/r/t adam, right? not that that excuses anything but yeah, eyuichk -minority representation alert: first east asian was a whiz w/ photoshop, first black char was homeless, first south asian is a doctor w/ an accent (albeit one who zinged hannah a lot). keep on doin what you do, girls
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
Nu uh, first South Asian was the crazy rollerblading girl
― emilys., Tuesday, 12 March 2013 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
But I see your point
oh word? i missed that part ;_;
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
btw I confirmed on imdb recently that
http://cdn.crushable.com/files/2012/11/hbo-girls-hannah-gynecologist-pay-me-24-640x361.png
is the WH Chief of Staff on House of Cards so that's all falling into place
― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
Aha! You were right after all xpost
― emilys., Tuesday, 12 March 2013 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
wait. what?
― purp (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 03:26 (eleven years ago) link
it is p genius that this scene comes after a scene in which new girlfriend explicitly lists what she will and will not tolerate in bed
― purp (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
yep
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 03:53 (eleven years ago) link
this season is p frequently flawed, & it can be frustrating to be simultaneously just floored - by the richness of Adam's AA monologue on love (or his totally convincingly embittered tweetiepie doll analogy a couple episodes back), or by Shoshanna's repeatedly awesome tightrope-walk between sorta upfront-vapid, & then just like heartbreakingly young & awesome & empowered & figuring shit out, cf her quicktalked couch speech about the anxiety over the limits on independence felt amid & between relationships - & then also disappointed, in small ways (is that what startup offices look like) & bigger ways (ray was better this week but sorta still feels more like a sitcom buddy than he ever should've been) & re: extratextual stuff (re: minority-watch, staten island resident cameo wasn't so hot either, & it's so crazy that the racism critique was formally ~addressed~ & then seemingly entirely forgotten) - but, but but but, the last couple episodes totally renew my appreciation for lena dunham. she is so important, this show is such a valuable contribution.
― schlump, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 04:12 (eleven years ago) link
"her mother is gonna be pissed"
this is the one thing that bugged me about this; the girl is presumably the child of an alcoholic and yet when he orders drinks she's kind of like "ok". most people who have a parent in AA I would assume would have taken that as a bigger warning sign.
― akm, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 04:21 (eleven years ago) link
pick whatever works for you: she's had a few drinks already, they're getting to know each other, people related to and who spend time with alcoholics know that there's considerable gradations in what constitutes a binge
― the 'dirty sprite' is implied (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 04:41 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, it's played for laughs, but doesn't the first episode have the scene where she says "Uh, did you mean to put it there?"
― your fretless ways (Eazy), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 05:28 (eleven years ago) link
it does.
― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 05:31 (eleven years ago) link
again that is basically what startup offices look like
― max, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 10:13 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5OfTPGnzqQ
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 12:16 (eleven years ago) link