Room 237 is a terrific watch. It reminded me, in a funny way, of the Rotten Apple youtube series "demonstrating" the Pal McCan'tBe conspiracy. It's an insight into a tangled thought process that makes some kind of internal sense but is utterly improbable.
― give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Friday, 8 March 2013 09:13 (eleven years ago) link
nice Atkinson piece (R237 opens in NY Friday, LA too?):
http://blog.sundancenow.com/new-releases/viva-mabuse-30-bash-your-head-right-fucking-in
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 March 2013 03:10 (eleven years ago) link
opens in LA on the 5th
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Monday, 25 March 2013 06:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/128033/kubricks-lost-holocaust-filmhttp://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/127899/kubrick-room-237
― Mordy, Friday, 29 March 2013 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
i wanna go see room 237 sometime.
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 29 March 2013 04:19 (eleven years ago) link
Seeing it today
― Look, Brian, about the afro wig... (forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 March 2013 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
Just saw Cuckoo's Nest today and was happy to see Scatman Crothers
― calstars, Saturday, 30 March 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
lol, 237 is hystericalsuch a good call not to show the conspiracy theorists
― Look, Brian, about the afro wig... (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 March 2013 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
predictably, I loved Room 237. Just a lot of fun. I could have watched it forever.
Loved how moments of really penetrating insight are juxtaposed to the most extravagant reaching. Thought the guy who talked about the "pastness" and escaping from the horrors of history was really persuasive and even makes the film kind of moving. It's jives with what I've felt about it, anyway.
Loved the bit about the carpet. Never noticed it before and totally captivated by that idea. Also buy that many of the continuity errors are so obvious that they seem deliberate. I mean, a whole chair missing? Pants changing?
The main point against the Apollo guy isn't so much anything he says but his own paranoia and just how improbable and crazy what he's saying sounds.
― ryan, Sunday, 31 March 2013 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
also this movie brings up a feeling I wish had a name: when credulity turns to incredulity. you want to believe and agree, your fascinated and open to what is being said, and then the revelation comes and it doesn't connect with your experience and there's an urge to laugh and an even deeper feeling of disappointment or frustration, "no that's not it."
― ryan, Sunday, 31 March 2013 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i loved it, i think i laughed hardest at the women seeing the minotaur in the damn skiing pic. main takeaway i got was i really really want to see the shining again soon (and i'm not even that huge on kubrick compared to most of ilx and the shining esp doesn't rank that highly but just seeing it here was enough).
― balls, Sunday, 31 March 2013 03:21 (eleven years ago) link
Oh man, I really want to see 237. And I don't even like the Shining all that much (I think it's good, just not... revelatory).
― emil.y, Sunday, 31 March 2013 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i was like "I DON'T SEE A MINOTAUR!" but really does work with the maze theme?
― ryan, Sunday, 31 March 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
and Kubrick's face in the clouds, and the really bizarre "phallus" that one guy sees.
― ryan, Sunday, 31 March 2013 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
yeah was so disappointed to not see kubrick's face in the clouds, I WANT TO BELIEVE
― balls, Sunday, 31 March 2013 03:38 (eleven years ago) link
haha. also there's still SO MUCH weird shit that they don't even get to! dudes, no one has a clue what the blow-jobbing bear costume thing is about? and the one lady totally punts on the guy with the drink and split head.
― ryan, Sunday, 31 March 2013 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
must check imdb for other continuity errors
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 31 March 2013 03:42 (eleven years ago) link
i cd swear the bear costume guy is straight from the book?
― parcheesi Wotsits (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 March 2013 03:43 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but.....???
anyway other than the carpet thing my favorite part was the bill watson stuff, since that's always intrigued me as well. he's up to no good, that guy.
― ryan, Sunday, 31 March 2013 03:46 (eleven years ago) link
Bear guy is regularly used to suggest danny being abused by his dad, it seemed weird no one mentioned it?
― Look, Brian, about the afro wig... (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 31 March 2013 05:06 (eleven years ago) link
The bear (actually dog costume) guy is from the book. There's actually a pretty detailed backstory for it that ties into the hotel's history. Kubrick presumably thought it was way freakier sans explanation. And he was right!
― la noche de la vaca (latebloomer), Sunday, 31 March 2013 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
I also like how everyone assumes it's a guy...
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 31 March 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
The Indian slaughter/violence-of-American-history subtext seems the most plausible out of all the theories in the movie. The only problem is that the guy pushing that angle turns what was likely one of many threads into the film's raison d'être.
― la noche de la vaca (latebloomer), Sunday, 31 March 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
I hate to keep people out of the theater, but Room 237 is "on demand" at least in NYC
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 31 March 2013 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
i saw it thru itunes.
― ryan, Sunday, 31 March 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
The Indian slaughter/violence-of-American-history subtext seems the most plausible out of all the theories in the movie
There's that one website that did an exhaustive scene-by-scene depiction of it, which follows this train of thought, and has been posted many times on this thread, probably 2 or 3 times by me, so i'd feel embarrassed about posting it again. I think the site that hosted it was called 'mastermind' or something...
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 1 April 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1729_10151547696865600_1549660818_n.jpg
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 1 April 2013 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
xp the doc refers to a msg board poster named mastrmind who declined to be interviewed. thats the jumping off pt for the superimposition stuff
― johnny crunch, Monday, 1 April 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
oh dude that baphomet thing is amazing holy sh1t
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 1 April 2013 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
OMG YES
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Monday, 1 April 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
that's really cool
― ryan, Monday, 1 April 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
u guys don't think Ascher wants you to accept evrything put forth in the film, now do ya
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 April 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
no.
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 1 April 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
he's a filmmaker not a schoolteacher iirc.
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Monday, 1 April 2013 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
He's actually both, but they teach postmodern theory now, y'know.
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
Jack's not even making the right hand gestures tho
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
actually that photo is Jack's head superimposed onto an actual vintage photograph, believe it or not.
― la noche de la vaca (latebloomer), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
http://media-cache-ec6.pinterest.com/192x/c5/97/fd/c597fd4611dc82a636d349228c94f918.jpg
― la noche de la vaca (latebloomer), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
actually actually!
― la noche de la vaca (latebloomer), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
literally actually
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
actually for real in actuality!
― la noche de la vaca (latebloomer), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
BAAAAAAAALSHIT
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
that's Baphomet, not Baal bro.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT8xwa5GVsR3NqYPRYULOOHATcczOulgzJX13h6qN1QCXAyoDOykQ
― la noche de la vaca (latebloomer), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
jk who cares
― la noche de la vaca (latebloomer), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
you are one of them aren't youyou're one of the nonbelieversyou probably worship baphometand judd apatow
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Monday, April 1, 2013 7:13 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lolling at this
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
rm 237 hit a lil too close to home for me as a lit major
― 乒乓, Saturday, 13 April 2013 04:02 (eleven years ago) link
I loved it. Would watch again.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 13 April 2013 05:03 (eleven years ago) link
Hadn't realised King hated Kubrick's version until I read a Guardian piece on filmed adaptations of books that was in the Guardian Review a week or so back. Said there was an interesting film called Room 237 looking at how people dealt with flaws in the film.
I'm having trouble with the Guardian website's search engine so can't find the article there. Hate that website's navigation have never been able to find things easily on it.
actually it's herehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/apr/06/king-kubrick-shining-adaptationwhich I just found manually. Didn't turn up as search engine had Stephen King or Kubrick entered though & i think the search engine which they're looking for feedback on just stopped working while I'd been looking for it. Ferfuxsake
― Stevolende, Saturday, 13 April 2013 09:21 (eleven years ago) link
& I hadn't seen that that film was already being discussed, but the rest of taht article is interesting anyway. Written by the guy who wrote the novel Submarine that Ayoade's film was based on. Covers the changes in The Graduate and various other well known films too.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 13 April 2013 09:27 (eleven years ago) link