MaresNest I didn't see you follow-up my reaction to the fine news from Glasgow
― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
...do so!
― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
Ah that is true! Kinda don't believe it, but the bits I've heard are amazing.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
mid-period is really amazing but hard to decide between KMKMKM and Disintegration. they do pretty different things but are both so great.
― Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
just gimme the two singles comps and carnage visors
― brimstead, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
oh and the song at the end of Marie antoinette
― brimstead, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
There must be a few 90s post-rock records that sound just like Carnage Visors
― MaresNest, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
I always go with KMKMKM because it has all their different sides done well. Plus all those amazing B-Sides!
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
I'll vote only because I want to knock Disintegration way down the list.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
No Boys Don't Cry, no credibility.
― how's life, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
Its a compilation
― OutdoorFish, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
A very good one I'll grant you
― OutdoorFish, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
Anything with last dance and lovesong on it deserves to be way down the list
― OutdoorFish, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
Wot no Mixed Up?
― OutdoorFish, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
Think I'm gonna vote for wish.
― brimstead, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:58 (eleven years ago) link
only on the orange vinyl, doesn't count
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Friday, 8 March 2013 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry just preparing my poll on fly-tipping
― OutdoorFish, Friday, 8 March 2013 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
None of you said Faith so all of you are wrong.
― Kent Burt, Friday, 8 March 2013 02:17 (eleven years ago) link
i was about to say faith
but now i'm just going to vote faith
― ( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Friday, 8 March 2013 02:31 (eleven years ago) link
Three Imaginary Boys.
― go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 8 March 2013 02:31 (eleven years ago) link
Then Disintegration. The Top is the worst.
― go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 8 March 2013 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
Got no issue with "Disintegration," but these days I'd vote "Seventeen Seconds." Or "Head on the Door," for Boris-era.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 March 2013 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
A very long time ago, it would've been Disintegration.
Over 20 years later, it is Robert Smith's favourite album: Seventeen Seconds.
It is the one that sounds the most 'timeless' to me. Disintegration dates itself for some reason with the use of keys and strings, mind you I still like the sound of them.
But Seventeen Seconds. It is the one that Bob said was The Cure's Pink Floyd moment, and I can see that. And I really like it.
Faith is a close second, but it is so dark, I have trouble listening to it; I really have to be in the mood for it.
― kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Friday, 8 March 2013 02:53 (eleven years ago) link
i really want to vote for Wish but that is impossible as there is Pornography, Head on the Door and Disintegration.
― Bee OK, Friday, 8 March 2013 04:44 (eleven years ago) link
go to party leather (ENBB)Posted: March 7, 2013, 8:32:19 PMThen Disintegration. The Top is the worst.
I can't even. Why. Sadface.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 8 March 2013 04:49 (eleven years ago) link
i still wish the production was better for 4:13 Dream there might have been something there but the mastering hurt my ears. could not listen to it outside a few times.
― Bee OK, Friday, 8 March 2013 04:52 (eleven years ago) link
The Top is ace, but the songs on it worked so much better live.
this is so true, made me fall in love with those songs.
― Bee OK, Friday, 8 March 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
The Top's title track is fantastic.
― C: (crüt), Friday, 8 March 2013 05:03 (eleven years ago) link
Shake Dog Shake was indeed immense on Concert. I voted Seventeen Seconds, cos its the best album. I also love three imaginary boys, boys don't cry and curiosities is a veritable bag of treats. Yeah faith and pornography are great but just a little too bleak for me.
― OutdoorFish, Friday, 8 March 2013 10:12 (eleven years ago) link
I liked "Mixed Up", me.
― Mark G, Friday, 8 March 2013 10:27 (eleven years ago) link
I tried to hash together a Spotify Playlist of The Top played live but it is missing a couple of tracks, I might go through some old recordings and make one anyway.
― MaresNest, Friday, 8 March 2013 10:34 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah Give Me It on Concert is also fantastic
― OutdoorFish, Friday, 8 March 2013 10:41 (eleven years ago) link
Is there a live version of piggy in the mirror out there?
― OutdoorFish, Friday, 8 March 2013 10:42 (eleven years ago) link
tons
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 8 March 2013 11:17 (eleven years ago) link
bootlegs from 84 are prob my faves, all the songs sounding pretty demented and gigs always seeming to end with pretty crazy versions of Forever. Also one of the few times, they managed a good live version of Charlotte Sometimes
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 8 March 2013 11:20 (eleven years ago) link
Faith, closely followed by Seventeen Seconds, I kind of think of them as being one two-part album.
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 8 March 2013 11:22 (eleven years ago) link
Love Charlotte Sometimes
― OutdoorFish, Friday, 8 March 2013 11:27 (eleven years ago) link
Glasto '86 Charlotte Sometimes is gr8
― MaresNest, Friday, 8 March 2013 11:34 (eleven years ago) link
The Head On The Door
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 8 March 2013 11:41 (eleven years ago) link
It's still Pornogrpahy.
You lurking fucks are still going to vote Disintegration.
I'm aiming for quiet resignation instead of outrage this time.
I've listened to Pornography, Seventeen Seconds, Faith and Disintegration in recent weeks. Seventeen Seconds in creeping closer to Pornography but Disintegration is still miles behind the other three. It's probably behind Kiss Me x 3 too.
I should really give their last three a decent listen again. It's been a while.
― am a big fan ay Nani (onimo), Friday, 8 March 2013 11:45 (eleven years ago) link
we've done this so many times - I'd be more interested in a post-Wish poll tbh
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 8 March 2013 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
Why don't you do one?
― OutdoorFish, Friday, 8 March 2013 12:13 (eleven years ago) link
Not really fair on people like me who have never done one before :)
― OutdoorFish, Friday, 8 March 2013 12:14 (eleven years ago) link
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, March 8, 2013
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2013 12:18 (eleven years ago) link
"Shake Dog Shake" is my favorite of their openers though.
Kiss Me x3 or 17 Secs. One because it's all over the place in a great way and the other because it's so of a piece.
― pandemic, Friday, 8 March 2013 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
^^^Exactly. My two faves as well.
― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 8 March 2013 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
Secrets is beautiful
― OutdoorFish, Friday, 8 March 2013 13:08 (eleven years ago) link
I'm sorry, JJJ. I've just never liked it! TBF though I haven't listened to it in years. Maybe I will today and report back if my feelings have changed.
― go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 8 March 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwA8V6hcqQo
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 8 March 2013 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
Really not sure what I would want a great new Cure album to sound like tbh.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 24 March 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
Something good yet different would be nice
― OutdoorFish, Sunday, 24 March 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
I will say that "Freakshhow" works much better than it should, especially live
― Darth Icky (DJP), Sunday, 24 March 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not trying to sound controversial here, but, honestly, I don't really care for a new Cure album.
Then again, I believe that most bands are only good for a few albums, if that. There are very, very, very few bands with extensive discographies that release great record after great record. Put another way, there are few bands who've produced 'timeless' records. Especially since 'greatness' is just so susceptible to shift from period to period/generation to generation.
The Cure is a good example. But maybe it's because I'm no longer a big fan of them as I was before.
Even if they did something like 17 Seconds, which is my favourite album by them, it would seem they'd be doing it to please a crowd instead of authentically producing music, which is something I favour.
After Wish, I became disconnected with the band's music. I only like a few songs post-1992.
― kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Sunday, 24 March 2013 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
I agree with you. I was being hypothetical.
― OutdoorFish, Sunday, 24 March 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
I would never put it in my top 10 but I always say I would like them to release an album full of songs like Trap, ie non fussy guitar power pop
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 24 March 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
a post-Wish 'Best Tracks' poll is i'd something i'd like to see. i became very quickly disenchanted with them after their just-before Wild Mood Swings set at Glastonbury 1995 which was the most turgid thing ever. have never bothered with them much since. once Porl was done with them, so was i.am i missing much i wonder?
― piscesx, Sunday, 24 March 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
once Porl was done with them, so was i.
you didn't come back when Porl came back?
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Monday, 25 March 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
I was at the '95 show. Not good.
― OutdoorFish, Monday, 25 March 2013 00:37 (eleven years ago) link
a post-Wish 'Best Tracks' poll is i'd something i'd like to see.
this!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 25 March 2013 05:11 (eleven years ago) link
My favorite post-Wish songs:
LostLabyrinthWantTrapNumbThe 13thGoing NowhereSpilt MilkThis MorningThe ScreamIt's OverUnderneath the StarsOut of this WorldThe Loudest SoundThe Last Day of SummerThe PromiseAdonisOceanIt Used To Be MeAll Kinds Of StuffThe Real Snow WhiteThe Hungry GhostSleep When I'm DeadFakeTreasureBare39Watching Me Fall
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 25 March 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
not really narrowing it down
here's a POV, in descending order of greatness
1) Watching Me Fall2) 393) The Promise4) Want5) Labyrinth
― delete (imago), Monday, 25 March 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
I always wanted them to release an album of songs like 'It's Not You' and 'Doubt'.
― OutdoorFish, Monday, 25 March 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
Post-1992 songs that are okay:
TreasureBareA Pink DreamMaybe SomedayBloodflowers (this one really doesn't do it for me, though)
Bloodflowers the album was one I almost got into, but did not stand the test of time. The WMS Robert Smith still seemed somewhat genuine (as genuine as Robert Smith could be in a theatrical kind of way), but by Bloodflowers, he was just a parody of his stereotypical self. I remember seeing his photos. Kind of felt sad for the man.
― kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
Shit I forgot Home
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
Here's the top 20 post-Wish tracks as voted in the ballot last year:
1. Burn2. The 13th3. Want4. Watching Me Fall5. (I Don't Know What's Going) On6. The End Of The World7. Mint Car8. Lost9. Before Three10. Out of This World11. Underneath The Stars12. Jupiter Crash13. Wrong Number14. Cut Here15. Gone!16. 3917. Labyrinth18. Maybe Someday19. Us or Them20. The Promise
― nate woolls, Monday, 25 March 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
Have they done anything truly worthwhile at all since Wish? Wild Mood Swings BROKE. MY. HEART. and I didn't listen to anything of theirs since then.
I was such a massive, massive fan and I was thrilled that they were releasing something new and I'd get to see them live after not getting to see them touring for Wish (I would have been at one of the shows where Show was filmed) and then I heard WMS.... I tried to learn to love it, and if I got high enough, Mint Car was all right, but overall it was just embarrassing and demoralizing.
I still went to see them live twice for that tour b/c I wasn't going to give up on them without a fight. The show in Nashville was amazing (at an amphitheater - opened with Plainsong, closed with Killing an Arab - beautiful thunderstorm during the show - they were full of energy, and even WMS tunes were pretty engaging), but the show at George Mason University in DC was beyond boring. Robert Smith laid down on his back and sang for a while, and it felt like he was going, meh, fuck it, rather than being transgressive or cheeky.
It would be interesting now to check out post WMS stuff, maybe. Though when I tried to listen to 4:13 Dream once, I had to stop after a couple tracks b/c it just seemed so hollow and false.
― Je55e, Friday, 29 March 2013 03:54 (eleven years ago) link
I think I voted for The Top. Or Pornography, but pretty sure it was The Top. My first of their albums, and still one of my favorite records by any artist.
― Je55e, Friday, 29 March 2013 03:55 (eleven years ago) link
There were some good shows on the WMS tour -- there's a good Paris bootleg floating around -- but yeah that wasn't a high point for the band. The three albums since plus all the scattered rarities and one-offs have been better! Though if you're not liking 4:13 then...
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 March 2013 04:01 (eleven years ago) link
thanks everyone for your (heh) post-wish lists... I will make a playlist and see what's the what! I never even gave Wish a serious listen, really.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 29 March 2013 04:16 (eleven years ago) link
Ned, I just listened to The Perfect Boy and really liked it!
Well, the remix, but still.
But now I'm listening to The Same Deep Water As You. Baby steps.
― Je55e, Friday, 29 March 2013 04:43 (eleven years ago) link
There are some good songs scattered here and there but I agree that stuff post WMS has always sounded pretty forced and inauthentic. I have the feeling that RS is ow incapable of coming up a song quickly and spontaneously anymore
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 29 March 2013 07:02 (eleven years ago) link
oh.. porl came back? hm. i guess no then as i had no idea.
― piscesx, Friday, 29 March 2013 07:33 (eleven years ago) link
Wish has got this shoegazey feel/moments of loud wall-of-sound guitars, e.g., "Open", "Cut". They translated well live, e.g., the live album Show. But I always dug Play for Today's live versions that had the crowd chant 'ohhhh oh ohhhh oh ohhhh oh ohhh'
― c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 29 March 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link