Don't go for second best, baby. Put your ILM ARTIST POLL #31: MADONNA to the test.

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wow I forgot all about I'll Remember.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:23 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/WMyto5q.jpg

47. "KEEP IT TOGETHER" from Like a Prayer (1989) [9 votes, 148 points]

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:30 (five years ago) Permalink

YES

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:31 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^

prolego, Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:32 (five years ago) Permalink

can't decide whether I prefer the single mix

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Madonna sez Prince played on the album version.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I absolutely prefer the single mix but the album version is also good

"Bellini." (DJP), Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I think KiT was like #21 for me :-( it really is a great song

ferreira rocher (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:35 (five years ago) Permalink

loving these images sfm

Roz, Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:36 (five years ago) Permalink

I deliberated over KiT, I so wanted it on my ballot. Glad it made it into the 50. So good!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:41 (five years ago) Permalink

she made it into an amazing closing number for blond ambition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhndzqzmstc

prolego, Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:44 (five years ago) Permalink

"I'll Remember" image should've been bearded Joe Pesci, is my only complaint

some dude, Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:45 (five years ago) Permalink

I forgot "I'll Remember" too--a convince-store staple for a few years back there. Good song.

your fretless ways (Eazy), Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:50 (five years ago) Permalink

i never paid attention to "the power of good-bye" till I heard the mashup of it and "bittersweet symphony," which remains one of my favorite examples of the form. the sonics are indeed a warm bath; that's a great description. the vocal is another matter. she sounds like she's trembling all the way through, as if the breakup she's singing about happened the morning she recorded it. she's sure of herself, absolutely sure, and yet she's not at all over it.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:50 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/GdnmJDd.jpg

46. "DIE ANOTHER DAY" from the motion picture soundtrack Die Another Day (2002) [7 votes, 149 points]

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:53 (five years ago) Permalink

Didn't see that one coming.

"Power of Good-bye" on my ballot (only thing to place so far).

"Keep It Together" one of very few LAP tracks to *not* make my ballot (though I really like it).

And yes! Great images!!

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:56 (five years ago) Permalink

1) stoked 4 this
2) not stoked that it's started just as i have to leave the house and be offline til tomorrow morning
3) fantastic images
4) DIE ANOTHER DAY!!!! - happy it placed obv but SO SO SO TOO LOW

r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:57 (five years ago) Permalink

lol so happy "Die Another Day" placed

some dude, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:05 (five years ago) Permalink

please explain the love for this song bcz idgi

I am asking genuinely

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:06 (five years ago) Permalink

I had no idea it was well regarded until today.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:07 (five years ago) Permalink

i just think "Die" and "American Life" are the apex of the total awkward strangeness of the Madonna/Mirwais collaboration, with the latter edging a little too far into outright bad but the former aging pretty well

some dude, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:09 (five years ago) Permalink

the appeal is that it sounds like a ringtone?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Die has aged/is better than AL, that's for sure, but I still think its kinda rigid and hook-free in much the same way a lot of her stuff has been in the 00's and onward.

Really curious to see if any other AL tracks will post, though I doubt it.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:11 (five years ago) Permalink

idgi either, they're the nadir of the awkard strangeness. blank in a bad way.

So: The Answers (or something), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:12 (five years ago) Permalink

i feel ppl would like it a lot more if it wasn't tied to an awful bond film and had just been a first single for a studio album

the production is insane and "sigmund freud analyse this" is obv an all-time line

prolego, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:12 (five years ago) Permalink

Don't love this, or even really like it much. Was surprised when it made a late push to crack the top 50.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:13 (five years ago) Permalink

People like "Live and Let Die" and its tied to a (marginally) worse Bond film.

xpost

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:13 (five years ago) Permalink

American Life was the only LP from the last 15 years on my albums ballot, it's obviously kind of a fiasco but imo a really unique and interesting one, a lot of her later music has the same rigidity and blandness but without the strangeness and personal twists that made the AL era a source of fascination for me.

some dude, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:16 (five years ago) Permalink

"die another day" was in my top three, it's completely unfuckwithable as totally bizarre-sounding experimental pop that still conveys the essence of the singer successfully and has a ton more hooks than its awkwardness should allow for

the tense, ominous intro and clip-clopping beats, strings sharp like knives, that "UH." like a full stop mid-verse, an android prickling with panicky sweat, the entire conceit that she can achieve immortality by shutting her body down - it's insane sonically and lyrically and is everything i'd want for a slightly mad pop star on top of the world

r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:17 (five years ago) Permalink

and it's so seriousfaced - like you actually believe that she does think she can achieve mortality via metaphysics, and the weird vocal treatment is her in the process of actually doing that

also: "i need to lay down"

r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:18 (five years ago) Permalink

hella fun to dance to, too

r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:18 (five years ago) Permalink

tom ewing on it: http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/09/madonna-die-another-day/

r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:19 (five years ago) Permalink

I came around to having affection for it. I don't think it's a fiasco so much as an uneven attempt to electronify a singer-songwriter record

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:20 (five years ago) Permalink

that's a convincing defence of it lex, makes me wish i liked the way it sounded more.

So: The Answers (or something), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:25 (five years ago) Permalink

^^

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:25 (five years ago) Permalink

liked it more at the time, think it works much better as stand alone soundtrack single than first single from album context, still think it's solid but at the time i can remember telling someone the reason britney was never gonna be another madonna is that britney couldn't even conceive of a 'die another day' while madonna could churn one out w/o breaking a sweat. then came 'toxic'. curious just how little you hear it now - it hasn't disappeared from the face of the earth like her 'american pie' remake (which was a hit fwiw), but it's not exactly 'into the groove' or 'crazy for you' either.

balls, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:26 (five years ago) Permalink

it's become a deep single

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:27 (five years ago) Permalink

well there are only like three 00s singles of hers that haven't disappeared pretty quickly

some dude, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:28 (five years ago) Permalink

the ones from Music, and Hung Up?

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:29 (five years ago) Permalink

britney couldn't even conceive of a 'die another day' while madonna could churn one out w/o breaking a sweat. then came 'toxic'.

and then you could argue, "toxic" was hardly "die another day" lyrically, and then came blackout

r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:32 (five years ago) Permalink

madonna i hear all the time on oldies radio around here: lucky star, borderline, holiday, crazy for you, into the groove, open your heart, la isla bonita, like a prayer. very very occasionally like a virgin and dress you up.

madonna i hear all the time on ac radio around here: the above plus express yrself, cherish, vogue, take a bow, ray of light, beautiful stranger. very very occasionally this used to be my playground, rain, power of goodbye, music.

balls, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:34 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost lex otm

balls, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:35 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah. and "4 Minutes," i guess? obviously Madonna had a lot of singles that topped the dance charts even if they weren't pop radio hits, i'm curious if any of those 'minor' later singles have had a long shelf life in clubs or if they just came and went. xp

some dude, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:36 (five years ago) Permalink

this conversation just makes me wish that britney had released "before the goodbye" in 2001 ;_;

prolego, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:36 (five years ago) Permalink

she's still a force on the dance chart but I dunno who cares.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:41 (five years ago) Permalink

haha i hear 'sorry' and 'hung up' in the club alot but the club i go to is ran by an old gay couple i probably spend an hour a week talking about madonna w/ so might not be an unbiased sample (very very heated couple of weeks debating beyonce's superbowl performance vs madonna's). i have met youngun's whose fave madonna is 'four minutes', which always manages to provoke the same horror i had in the nineties meeting ppl whose fave bowie was outside: 'WAIT - THAT SHIT WORKED???'

balls, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:41 (five years ago) Permalink

a better lol Bowie nineties example is "I'm Afraid of Americans."

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:43 (five years ago) Permalink

I cannot conceive of how "4 Minutes" could be anyone's favourite Madonna song, unless it and MDNA are the only Madonna records they've ever heard (and even then...)

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:44 (five years ago) Permalink

I would be more appalled if it was "Give It 2 Me"

"Bellini." (DJP), Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:44 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm ecstatic enough about Stevie (or anyone) acknowledging the greatness of "Jimmy Jimmy" to overlook the "Live To Tell" diss.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Saturday, 4 February 2017 23:46 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah stevie u still need srs help tho

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 February 2017 00:24 (one year ago) Permalink

"Live To Tell" is the greatest

Wimmels, Sunday, 5 February 2017 00:37 (one year ago) Permalink

My favorite ILM poll: the level of commitment, the writing.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 February 2017 01:06 (one year ago) Permalink

it was the best of times

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 February 2017 01:18 (one year ago) Permalink

I like to think Patrick Leonard said "OK, we're done" and Madonna saying, "No, wait -- I have an idea. 'If I ran away...'" and Leonard losing his shit.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, March 11, 2013 3:43 PM (three years ago

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 February 2017 01:27 (one year ago) Permalink

can we do this again

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 February 2017 01:54 (one year ago) Permalink

YES

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 February 2017 02:25 (one year ago) Permalink

Fuck me, my favorite thing she's ever done, her cover of Marvin Gaye's "I Want You" (off the Something to Remember comp) wasn't even nominated?!?!?!

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 5 February 2017 02:33 (one year ago) Permalink

There are no nominations in artist polls.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 5 February 2017 05:36 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 5 February 2017 10:19 (one year ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Flamenco drop.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Sunday, 16 July 2017 02:25 (one year ago) Permalink

The best kind of drop

Tim F, Sunday, 16 July 2017 03:32 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

My least favorite major single.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 03:44 (ten months ago) Permalink

It sucks, but "American Life" still exists.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 04:42 (ten months ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, Madonna put out music after 2001... I keep forgetting! Now I shall forget again.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:18 (ten months ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

Found the second greatest-hits CD at a garage sale last week, been playing it in the car. A kind of sameness creeps into the first few tracks because of the remixing. "Ray of Light" and "Beautiful Stranger" (which took some abuse in this poll) sound as amazing as ever; I think her career peaks were very early ("Holiday," "Borderline," "Into the Groove") and then later with those two songs--lot of greatness between, with some silliness, but they're the best. The one song that jumped out at me that I didn't vote for above was "Drowned World"/"Substitute for Love." I should have.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:03 (three months ago) Permalink

If she ever writes her memoirs--particularly of the early '80s--I'd read them.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:07 (three months ago) Permalink

"Beautiful Stranger" (which took some abuse in this poll)

Not enough, iirc.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:19 (three months ago) Permalink


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