*and not
― dat neggy nilmar (wins), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
remaining clue of mine:
_ U _ _ E _
― dat neggy nilmar (wins), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
Summer?
― i don't have to be fair, i'm *right* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
_ UM _ E _
can I apologise in advance for this one btw
― dat neggy nilmar (wins), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
Number!
― i don't have to be fair, i'm *right* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
yuss
― dat neggy nilmar (wins), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
Not bad imo
― i don't have to be fair, i'm *right* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
idgi - I know number is anaesthetic...
― ledge, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
no = #
more cold = more numb
sorry
― dat neggy nilmar (wins), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
got that "Snatch" clue btw but i'll leave it for a bit if you want.
now i see how they can work i can live with them but there's something about the inexactitude that niggles
― a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
Ok. I would whinge that you need the dot in no. for it to work but will let you off 'cause hamburger.
Ah how about: More cold? No.
Xp
― ledge, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
Letter banks seem less intuitive/natural than other clues but this could be bullshit. I like the idea though.
― ledge, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
Dont mind either those guys imo clue was fine
― i don't have to be fair, i'm *right* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
lol I knew I would be breaking at least one rule! Will go with ledge's rewrite. Here's one: I kept trying to come up with a clever spoonerism-type clue for the dish "leek gratin". Sth about a dish containing tongues? but I couldn't make it work. Any ideas?bitl
my friend sent me this once & I take no responsibility whatsoever:
septic cunt (5)
― dat neggy nilmar (wins), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
lol yuk yuk lol yuk
― a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
Wouldn't be surpised to see that in Private Eye. Maybe in the Guardian in a decade or two. And the Times when hell freezes over.
Vegetarian dish? It contains tongues according to Spooner. Legions of xword fans complaining that's not how you pronounce gratin (or latin).
― ledge, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 09:11 (eleven years ago) link
answer please for the slow-witted amongst us
― Neil S, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 09:38 (eleven years ago) link
which one?
― a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 09:53 (eleven years ago) link
septic feline cunt.
septic feline or chicken cunt.
― ledge, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 09:53 (eleven years ago) link
nope, still don't get it
― Neil S, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 09:55 (eleven years ago) link
if a wound is infected it may produce an unpleasant yellow fluid
― a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 09:55 (eleven years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8a/Mollie_Sugden_as_Mrs_Slocombe.jpg/200px-Mollie_Sugden_as_Mrs_Slocombe.jpg
― ledge, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 09:55 (eleven years ago) link
lol thanks guys I'm not firing on all cylinders I don't think!
― Neil S, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 10:19 (eleven years ago) link
aha, so "spooner" clues need to work out loud. Never knew that. Something about the main course containing tongues & the starters being mixed up? idk this shit is hard! I can't believe ppl come up with these for a living. I'm a big fan of Paul at the moment.
― dat neggy nilmar (wins), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Archibald_Spooner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoonerism
"A spoonerism is an error in speech or deliberate play on words in which corresponding consonants, vowels, or morphemes are switched"
so, "greek, latin" (tongues, as in languages) -> "leak gratin" (vegetarian dish)
― koogs, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
Nah mate it don't work!
― ledge, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
Unless you pronounce gratin like a pleb
I'm ok with it, or would be if I'd spelt leek correctly - swapping letters rather than sounds is valid, I think.
― koogs, Thursday, 7 March 2013 05:32 (eleven years ago) link
Aiming for that tricky ILG crossover market:
Book about time-travelling platformer ultimately precursor to massive videogame and movie franchise (4,6)
― Another turning point, a stork fuck in the road (ledge), Monday, 18 March 2013 09:55 (eleven years ago) link
I mean if anyone wants to come up with a less obvious definition part there be my guest.
― Another turning point, a stork fuck in the road (ledge), Monday, 18 March 2013 10:00 (eleven years ago) link
classic ledge clue there. got it from the def and the 4,6 then had to reverse engineer it.
'****'s game'?
― koogs, Monday, 18 March 2013 10:10 (eleven years ago) link
I am the rufus of this thread.
― Another turning point, a stork fuck in the road (ledge), Monday, 18 March 2013 10:12 (eleven years ago) link
Oh nice. I'm not a gamer but I actually understand that one because my friends made me play the game in question once.
Another one of mine, less dickish than last time:
As mum, dad, sis or bro (11)
― dat neggy nilmar (wins), Monday, 18 March 2013 10:52 (eleven years ago) link
friday and saturday in the guardian were actually impossible
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 18 March 2013 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
Oh shit I fucked it up.
As mum, dad, sis, or bro (11)xp
― dat neggy nilmar (wins), Monday, 18 March 2013 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
like the double game referencing there ledge, nicely done!
― Neil S, Monday, 18 March 2013 11:00 (eleven years ago) link
really hate cryptic clues that rely on tenuous definitions (how does "nut" = "admirer" - IT DOESN'T) or phrases that NO ONE ACTUALLY SAYS or the perennial rage-inducing military/cricketing abbreviations
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 18 March 2013 11:03 (eleven years ago) link
> (how does "nut" = "admirer" - IT DOESN'T)
nut as in 'crazy fan of'. 'car nut' for instance. or 'sports nut'.
― koogs, Monday, 18 March 2013 11:07 (eleven years ago) link
Haha they sure do love their cricket, it's true! It's the only reason I know half of those terms.
― dat neggy nilmar (wins), Monday, 18 March 2013 11:11 (eleven years ago) link
xp it only works if you squint. it's just a really tenuous definition.
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 18 March 2013 11:13 (eleven years ago) link
no problem with 'nut' or cryptic/obscure definitions in general. it's a key way of making clues harder or have better surface readings. and something i clearly need to improve on.
― Another turning point, a stork fuck in the road (ledge), Monday, 18 March 2013 11:38 (eleven years ago) link
Synonyms for nut used in that way: enthusiast, fan, aficionado, buff, devotee, follower, admirer, aficionada. Totally fair imo, and just unusual enough to make me groan and eyeroll a bit, but that's a good thing!
On another note, a recent puzzle I completed had clues referencing both REM and Dr. Dre; along with with Mariah Carey clue upthread pop music is making inroads!
― It's All Posable Colaboration (Dan Peterson), Monday, 18 March 2013 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
Free from the clutches of big labels, Fugazi at last breaks into Indiana and Delaware. (5)
― It's All Posable Colaboration (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
There was also this in yesterday's Guardian Quiptic, which I kicked myself for having to press "Cheat" on:
8D. Vicious uprising takes care of swells (8)
(I normally like the Quiptic but I made slow progress of yesterday's and cheated for probably the last quarter of it so I could go to bed - although if I take a few unsolved clues to bed they often come to me overnight)
― susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
xp nice one!
― Neil S, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I forgot to say, a bit wordy but very nice surface on that one, Dan.
I used to like the NME crossword's occasional token semi-cryptic clues, mostly anagrammed band names. Haven't looked at one in over a decade; do they still do those?
― susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, Vicious uprising!
I didn't think up Fugazi, that's from The Nation. After doing a number of puzzles set by their new, younger setters, I went back to some they were reprinting from their old setter, Frank Lewis, originally published in the 40s. Lots more purely cryptic clues + looser cluing style + many more fusty and dated references = not nearly as much fun.
― It's All Posable Colaboration (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
... and those new guys are really working the word bank cluing discussed upthread.
Redistributing assets each time, wholesaler lowers prices. (10,10,10)
― It's All Posable Colaboration (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
A nice one from today's Guardian:
Celebs ill-equipped for dinner parties (8)
― Neil S, Thursday, 21 March 2013 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
i got that :D
after a frustrating spell, enjoyed y'day's and am enjoying today's G crosswords v much
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 21 March 2013 13:54 (eleven years ago) link