Sources tell SI Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003

im just saying that yr definition of mythology is based on some psychological disorder is all

so the Rangers' clubhouse at that time was Steroid Heaven. Anyone have anything to ask Mark Teixeira?

wow *jaw drops* at him admitting it, dont know what to say really

i mean i assumed he did it and all, it's just...i cant believe he's admitting it

what else can he do, stonewall after seeing what it got Sosa and McGwire?

yeah icey, we know WHY they're focusing on the biggest stars. It's a nation of morons, and sports fans are the biggest of them all.

yeah you're right

enlightening discussion on first & ten, as always

I was going to crack a joke about cjbaseball.com reactivating, but it looks like it has never not been active (including today).

http://www.cjbaseball.com/

Canseco was right all along... that's the greatest part.

Danny Bonaduce bout excepted

http://deadspin.com/5149914/alex-rodriguez-admits-to-using-a-banned-substance

Gammons/A-Rod video

yeah icey, we know WHY they're focusing on the biggest stars. It's a nation of morons, and sports fans are the biggest of them all.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, February 9, 2009 3:01 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or cause those players have more or less the biggest impact

i love how a-rod (or his people) borrowed last week's Michael Phelp's apology almost word for word.

i always figured a-rod would admit it, ever since i heard the story initially. the dude would never allow himself to get caught up in the games that clemens and bonds have w/r/t denials and evidence suggesting that the denials are lies.

I wonder how Madonna feels about this new A-Rod information.

I think it was an incredibly savvy move for A-Rod to admit it.

will Bud still be commish when A-Rod passes Bonds, and will he stand up with his hands in his pockets again?

incredibly savvy? it's pretty obvious that admitting something has worked better than denials for people in his situation.

yep. I still give him props as much I hate gay-rod. certainly looks better then mcgwire/bonds/etc now.

(obviously I am praying Alberticus is not in the 104.)

if it didn't work they wouldn't do it

― Tracer Hand, Monday, February 9, 2009 12:14 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well, this is patently false. athletes of every stripe do all kinds of dumb bullshit IN CASE it could help them, not because they know for sure it will.

dan they are basically magic make u perform better pills - obv yr starting w/a baseline talent - but theyll give a guy w/warning track power big home run numbers every time

― WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Monday, February 9, 2009 11:56 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if this is the case then why have all the big name hitters who were implicated been guys who were ALREADY sluggers? where are the undersized shortstops beefing up their power numbers? why are most of the guys implicated no-name relief pitchers? nigga u r just MAKING THIS SHIT UP

I know there are tools in every sport but why is it that the baseball tools are the tooliest (standing exception made for Terrell Owens)?

― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Monday, February 9, 2009 12:29 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was wonderin this myself recently, it seems like a greater percentage of baseball's all-time greats are also all-time dbags - it is a mystery

(obviously I am praying Alberticus is not in the 104.)

― bnw, Monday, February 9, 2009 1:16 PM (47 minutes ago)

;-)

my understanding is that baseball players are well-known as the dumbest of all pro athletes, dunno why that is but it may have something to do with the douchiness

hey guys it's ji

As of 5/3/2007:

Homerun average (HR/AB)
1) Mark McGwire - .094
2) Babe Ruth - .085
3) Barry Bonds - .077
4) Jim Thome - .074 (active)
5) Albert Pujols - .072 (active)
6) Ralph Kiner - .071
6) Manny Ramirez - .071 (active)
8) Sammy Sosa - .070 (active)
8) Harmon Killebrew - .070
10) Alex Rodriguez - .069 (active)

sosa not active...

dan they are basically magic make u perform better pills - obv yr starting w/a baseline talent - but theyll give a guy w/warning track power big home run numbers every time

― WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Monday, February 9, 2009 11:56 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if this is the case then why have all the big name hitters who were implicated been guys who were ALREADY sluggers? where are the undersized shortstops beefing up their power numbers? why are most of the guys implicated no-name relief pitchers? nigga u r just MAKING THIS SHIT UP

― my heigl-lohan girl (who's also latina and half-jewish) (cankles), Monday, February 9, 2009 5:02 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sry there are way more desperate no name relief pitchers in the world than famous power hitters - and yah bonds et al were already sluggers who had not until they started juicing broken any home run records

sounds like ure... agreein w/me 8-) *puts feet up on desk*

;-)

― (*ﾟーﾟ)θ L(。･＿･)　　　°~ヾ(･ε･ *) (Steve Shasta), Monday, February 9, 2009 4:04 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

I know, I dread the shasta blowback. D:

where are the undersized shortstops beefing up their power numbers?

brian roberts did have a magical 2005

Is this a "Steroid User Tearfully Admits to Being Yankee" situation?

plus our livestock sciences are so thoroughly inundated with a myriad of substances to increase food production, that it seems that throwing in steroids is not going to give you an appreciable boost insurmountable by anyone else.

Awesome! Pump a sirloin full of steroids, then eat it! Take that, testing!

I also want to point out that unless you're dealing with identically-raised clones, there will always be an imbalance between pitcher and hitter regardless of the use of steroids.

DO THIS NOW. Dan, you're full of grebt ideas today/yesterday.

I kind of just want baseball to turn into this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9a/Base_Wars_cover.jpg/256px-Base_Wars_cover.jpg

A-Rod's voice is quavering a little bit as he talks about all the fans he's probably lost.

http://pinstripedbible.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/02/what_to_make_of_arods_confessi.html

quavering because he knows "can't miss nothin that you never had"

God, this dude is such a liar.

Haha, he is not pleased with "that lady from Sports Illustrated".

He really is one of the most immediately dislikeable personalities in professional sports. He makes Kobe Bryant seem positively luvable, which is exceedingly difficult.

well this took quite a turn while i was away.

a-rod is playing on his negative public image to try to get forgiveness this, which would be hilarious if it wasn't completely fucked. the idea of this guy ever being "naive" is so laughable.

lol base wars was sweet

as Sandomir sez in NYT today, Gammo isn't exactly Mike Wallace (never asked how often he used, let him wriggle out of the who and the when).

my understanding is that baseball players are well-known as the dumbest of all pro athletes

You and icey CAN start an I Don't Love Baseball board, y'know. srsly, I've heard guys from the other sports and it's at least a tie. And the other guys are armed more often.

dude a person can love baseball and think that a lot of players are unredeemable douchebags

irredeemable, unless of course you are disappointed that you can't turn in old douchebags for $$$

speaking of, POTUS 44 sounds a lot like POTUS 43 both on "state secrets"/ rendition and mealymouthed platitudes about steroids in baseball

do you think the POTUS actually gives a fuck about steroids in baseball right now?

Neyer OTM:

Have you seen the interview? (Congrats to Mr. Gammons, by the way.)

I've watched it a couple of dozen times now, and I have to say, things don't start out too well for Mr. Rodriguez. Not when Mr. Gammons' first question is, "What's the truth?"

When I arrived in Texas in 2001, I felt an enormous amount of pressure. I felt like I had all the weight of the world on top of me, and I needed to perform, and perform at a high level every day.
Back then, it was a different culture. It was very loose. I was young. I was stupid. I was naive. And I wanted to prove to everyone that, you know, I was worth, you know, being one of the greatest players of all time.

And I did take a banned substance. And, you know, for that I am very sorry and deeply regretful. And although it was the culture back then, and Major League Baseball overall, um … was very … I'm just, I just feel that, um … You know, I'm just sorry. I'm sorry for that time. I'm sorry to my fans. I'm sorry for my fans in Texas. It wasn't until then that I thought about a substance of any kind, and since then, I've proved to myself and to everyone that I don't need any of that.

If you're not trained, reciting a script is terribly difficult for most people. I tried it once. I tried to memorize a 250-word commentary about baseball and failed miserably. And in this clip, you can see exactly where Alex Rodriguez loses track of his place in the script. You see those ellipses up there? That's where A-Rod forgot what was he was supposed to say next. So instead, he paused, got a little verklempt and returned to his No. 1 talking point: He's really, really sorry.

Sure. He's sorry he got caught. Everyone's sorry when he's caught. But you're really sorry only if you think that what you did was wrong, and I don't believe that any of these guys really believe they did anything wrong. A different culture five years ago? The culture today is exactly the same as it was five years ago. The only thing that has changed is the penalty for failing a drug test. If you want to know the culture, look no further than the ridiculous percentage of players who have a doctor's note that allows them to take stimulants (under the guise of controlling their ADHD or whatever).

The culture is exactly what it's always been: If you ain't cheating, you're not trying. And it ain't cheating if you don't get caught. Rodriguez tried, and now he's been caught. The next step is damage control, full of apologies and admissions of youth and stupidity. (And, of course, it's obvious that he's now a mature and thoughtful adult.)

Asked whether the steroid use took place only from 2001 through 2003, Rodriguez responded, "That's pretty accurate, yes."

Pretty accurate? So maybe there was a little bit in 2000? What about 2004, and maybe just a dabbling in 2007?

And when Gammons asked him which drugs he used, there came this whopper: "Peter, that's the thing. I mean, again, it was such a loosey-goosey era. I'm guilty for a lot of things. I'm guilty for being arrogant, of being naive, not asking all the right questions. To be quite honest, I don't know exactly what substance I was guilty of using."

Rodriguez -- earning $25 million and surrounded by a bevy of agents, advisers, trainers and God knows who else -- didn't bother knowing which drugs he was using? For (at least) three years? He's obsessed with his performance … and yet, for three years he'll stick any old thing into his body without a thought?

Please. I understand the public relations angle of this thing. But now you're just insulting our intelligence. Alex, I forgive you. But I would feel better about it if you'd told us the truth, just this once. Other guys were doing it, and nobody was getting caught, and you were just one of them.

If you ain't cheating …

thanks "harvard" perry

cad, I wd like to have heard the POTUS say "I don't give a fuck about steroids in baseball." But he doesn't give a fuck about civil liberties, so that's just a wish.

cad, I wd like to have heard the POTUS say "I don't give a fuck about steroids in baseball." But he doesn't give a fuck about civil liberties, so that's just a wish.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:51 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm

yah guys i mean i would have liked that too but let's return to the real world mmkay?