Aja and a lot of steely dans work has a topanga canyon feel, even thought doesn't precisely reflect the music of that area I guess. I feel like the royal scam is the pt of frisson where the 60s dream burns away and melts into late 70s sleaze and Aja and gaucho is the takeover by the survivors who have cashed in but remain fucked up and hanging on to the more base elements of their youth minus the empty idealism. Or at least that's how those albums sometimes sound. Whatever the case they sound like nothing but LA. I feel like I prepared myself pretty well for this city by listening to steely Dan and ice cube, though admittedly the times had changed somewhat since those albums.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 4 March 2013 03:46 (eleven years ago) link
I would be tempted to go for I Got The News...not solely because I am contrary but also because it's brilliant.
Aja is my first foray into Steely Dan.
http://devonrecordclub.com/2014/06/17/steely-dan-aja-round-68-toms-selection/
What should I get next?
― yugi ex, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 11:08 (nine years ago) link
GAUCHO
― Naamloze vennootschap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 11:09 (nine years ago) link
nah they're all good
Gaucho
― shameless pureyors of slop-on-plate (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
Gaucho, Aja, Royal Scam
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
Steve Gadd on the outro to the title track surely must rank as one of my favourite drumming moments ever - both the playing itself and how the drums sound. Exquisite.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link
otm
― Moodles, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
that moment when he finds a totally new cymbal groove and it only lasts like 20 seconds...
― rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
Yeah, especially that bit! Superb playing.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
title track
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
maybe because it's the most earnest & sentimental song they ever recorded, & it's a tour de force for all the players involved. that final drum solo at the end is always so so thrilling
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
Wayne Shorter's solo is nothing to sneeze at either. I love that one ascending part where it feels like he's reaching for the cosmos.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link
I've been on a bit of a Steely Dan kick the last couple of days, and Aja has been hitting the spot like never before. The first four albums are all long been huge favourites of mine, but I think I'd rank Aja ahead of The Royal Scam now. I still don't really rate Gaucho, even though it's very well produced and engineered (as you'd expect) - I've a little warmed to 'Babylon Sisters' (even though I find it a lesser version of 'Home at Last'), 'Hey Nineteen', the title track and 'Third World Man', but find the rest of the tracks lacking.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link
Pretzel Logic is the only stepchild in the SD discography for me
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
Really? Why d'you say that? Because it's their most concise/poppiest record?
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link
― Moodles, Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:05 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah it's just astonishing
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
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I would have to go look at the tracklist but it's the only one that has real lulls for me. Obv it has some immortal stuff on it.
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link
'Any Major Dude...' is one of my all-time favourite Steely Dan tracks.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link
Oh definitely. Maybe top 5 for me.
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link
i don't think there's a dud on Gaucho, the ones you didn't mention (Glamour Profession, My Rival, Time Out Of Mind) are all pretty close to the equal of the four you like!)
btw re: the title track, never knew about the Keith Jarrett lawsuit (I'm sure it's been covered here), but damn I guess he had a good case...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QNK4Pc8W2A
― nomar, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I don't really like either 'My Rival' and 'Time Out Of Mind' ... 'Glamour Profession' sounds great for its first minute but then I find myself tuning out... it's probably the weariest sounding "disco" tune I've ever heard, but weary sounding disco was probably what they were going for.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link
yeah it definitely was, I can see how you could see that song as conceptually or intellectually interesting but not enjoyable musically. it's probably my favorite SD song, but only if i can have the demo where Fagen sings the chorus & it sounds like a C90 bounce.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link
That's prrrrobably my favorite SD lyric
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link
Glamour Profession is the essence of Gaucho for me and one of the greatest things they ever did
― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link
I like the way Fagen sings "Barbados" as "Barbadeuce" ...
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:54 (six years ago) link
I totally agree with the above re: Glamour Profession. Perfect portrait of a specific type of hanger-on cretin that you'll no doubt meet in the drug world & in LA. I love the second verse so much, the last line is amazing in the context of the song: "I drove the Chrysler / watched from the darkness while they danced."
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link
I still have a dream of making a cool house track out of Glamour Profession samples, but I haven't been able to make it work so far
― Moodles, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link
brut and charisma poured from the shadow where he stood
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:24 (six years ago) link
Jack with his radar Stalking the dread moray eel
― nomar, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:27 (six years ago) link
Scam has one foot in LA / "elsewhere" but the album art is so overt with the Chrysler building reference that to me it's an NY album
― calstars, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:34 (six years ago) link
They hated that cover, though, and it was originally created for an unreleased Van Morrison album.
― DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
I don't mind it, but it's still one of my least favourite Steely Dan sleeves... Can't Buy a Thrill is probably their worst.
The sleeve to Katy Lied is my favourite.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
even so, it captures the atmosphere of the record perfectly... all i see is steam & grit & smog & slime... definitely a new york record
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link
this is neat, haven't heard it in a while, don't remember the audio quality being this good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7EkDDzpPrk
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link
wow...very nice! sounds like Gadd on drums? and that staccato part ~~~~~~~whole thing almost like a sister to aja.
― calstars, Thursday, 14 September 2017 00:35 (six years ago) link
mp3 https://ufile.io/lt3n4
― calstars, Thursday, 14 September 2017 00:37 (six years ago) link
Am I the only fan of this band that doesn't care for Deacon Blues at all?
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 14 September 2017 03:33 (six years ago) link
nope, same here.
― new noise, Thursday, 14 September 2017 03:36 (six years ago) link
come on the lyrics alone make it classic
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 September 2017 03:41 (six years ago) link
Love it, but I actually don't care that much for Josie.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 14 September 2017 03:43 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I love the lyrics to 'Deacon Blues' ... the first two lines are such a fuckin' funny way to open a song.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:53 (six years ago) link
I used to think that I Got The News was the only dud here, but I've learned to love the herky-jerk rhythm and Victor Feldman's piano
― rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link
yup the piano makes that track
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link
'I Got The News' rules.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link
aw man, when Michael McDonald comes in on that one, so good
― flappy bird, Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link
Glamour Profession, My Rival and Time Out Of Mind are my favorite Gaucho songs. „Show me my rival, I'll match him whim for whim now“ is the quintessential Steely Dan battlecry
― gospodin simmel, Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link
Yeah those three are heart of gaucho for me as well
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
weird, i would rate the other four tracks ahead of those
― rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
I don't dislike any of the songs on Gaucho, but side 1 is perfect.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 14 September 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link