Sources tell SI Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003

eckstein is clean!

but morbs is otm

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so because it's a fog we're just going to say it is what it is? i understand that to a certain point but i would like to see that list of 104 because it will increase my understanding of exactly what has been happening to the game.

this isnt a court of law or a peer reviewed journal - i just looked at the aging comically inflated bonds demolishing the record books and lold @ the farce - sometimes things are pretty easily seen and understood that dont offer the right circumstances for statistical or forensic or whatever analysis

i don't hate on the roiders because i guess the draw of taking the shit is the massive contracts, and i can sorta understand, but i feel for the really excellent players who don't take shit and get outclassed stats wise

will it? Waht about the guys who've been dodgy enough to pass tests but have still been using "something."

http://www.femmefan.com/site/images/lookerspics/lookers2/Brady-Anderson.jpg

well yeah it would be ridic of anyone to assume that we will fully understand the so-called steroid era but i would prefer to see this stuff start coming out, that's all.

btw I know that sports is 'the Toy Department' of life but the media vocab on this issue is so McCarthyite it's crazy.

icey:

the mythology is that power hitters/HRs = the steroid problem in baseball. 70%+ of the PED busts since the MLB began enforcing have been largely mediocre middle-relievers, speedy 4th-outfielder types... not exactly making the difference in the outcome of the game.

the other thing that the media perpetuates is that steroids = muscle/bulk. there are far more skinny, lanky PED abusers in MLB than bulky sluggers. steroids do not automatically inflate your biceps and neck. when used in conjunction with weight training, yes steroids help you gain muscle mass. but the media oversimplifies it so that bulky slugger = roids. while there's some correlation, it is not 1:1.

yah well there are a lot of mediocre middle-relievers in the world and most peds are not anabolic steroids - but steriods do build muscle mass thats what theyre for mr myth buster

a-rod admits in an interview w/ peter gammons tonight on ESPN. his reasoning is "when i got to texas i was young and naive and felt like i had the weight of the world of my shoulders and i wanted to prove everyone right"

His voice shaking at times, Alex Rodriguez met head-on allegations that he tested positive for steroids six years ago, telling ESPN on Monday that he did take performance-enhancing drugs while playing for the Texas Rangers during a three-year period beginning in 2001.

"When I arrived in Texas in 2001, I felt an enormous amount of pressure. I needed to perform, and perform at a high level every day," Rodriguez told ESPN's Peter Gammons in an interview in Miami Beach, Fla. "Back then, [baseball] was a different culture. It was very loose. I was young, I was stupid, I was naïve. I wanted to prove to everyone I was worth being one of the greatest players of all time.

"I did take a banned substance. For that, I'm very sorry and deeply regretful."

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3894847

all is forgiven alexander...

someone please ask madonna how this has affected a-rod's junk

but the media oversimplifies it so that bulky slugger = roids. while there's some correlation, it is not 1:1.

― (*ﾟーﾟ)θ L(。･＿･)　　　°~ヾ(･ε･ *) (Steve Shasta), Monday, February 9, 2009 2:44 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this may be true but yr and morbs et al confusion at why people are focusing on the most successful players is def on some aspie shit

i'm just saying you bought into the mythology dawg. no need for a dude who posts 5000 msgs a day on her to start throwing out the "aspie" card... ;-)

im just saying that yr definition of mythology is based on some psychological disorder is all

so the Rangers' clubhouse at that time was Steroid Heaven. Anyone have anything to ask Mark Teixeira?

wow *jaw drops* at him admitting it, dont know what to say really

i mean i assumed he did it and all, it's just...i cant believe he's admitting it

what else can he do, stonewall after seeing what it got Sosa and McGwire?

yeah icey, we know WHY they're focusing on the biggest stars. It's a nation of morons, and sports fans are the biggest of them all.

yeah you're right

enlightening discussion on first & ten, as always

I was going to crack a joke about cjbaseball.com reactivating, but it looks like it has never not been active (including today).

http://www.cjbaseball.com/

Canseco was right all along... that's the greatest part.

Danny Bonaduce bout excepted

http://deadspin.com/5149914/alex-rodriguez-admits-to-using-a-banned-substance

Gammons/A-Rod video

yeah icey, we know WHY they're focusing on the biggest stars. It's a nation of morons, and sports fans are the biggest of them all.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, February 9, 2009 3:01 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or cause those players have more or less the biggest impact

i love how a-rod (or his people) borrowed last week's Michael Phelp's apology almost word for word.

i always figured a-rod would admit it, ever since i heard the story initially. the dude would never allow himself to get caught up in the games that clemens and bonds have w/r/t denials and evidence suggesting that the denials are lies.

I wonder how Madonna feels about this new A-Rod information.

I think it was an incredibly savvy move for A-Rod to admit it.

will Bud still be commish when A-Rod passes Bonds, and will he stand up with his hands in his pockets again?

incredibly savvy? it's pretty obvious that admitting something has worked better than denials for people in his situation.

yep. I still give him props as much I hate gay-rod. certainly looks better then mcgwire/bonds/etc now.

(obviously I am praying Alberticus is not in the 104.)

if it didn't work they wouldn't do it

― Tracer Hand, Monday, February 9, 2009 12:14 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well, this is patently false. athletes of every stripe do all kinds of dumb bullshit IN CASE it could help them, not because they know for sure it will.

dan they are basically magic make u perform better pills - obv yr starting w/a baseline talent - but theyll give a guy w/warning track power big home run numbers every time

― WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Monday, February 9, 2009 11:56 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if this is the case then why have all the big name hitters who were implicated been guys who were ALREADY sluggers? where are the undersized shortstops beefing up their power numbers? why are most of the guys implicated no-name relief pitchers? nigga u r just MAKING THIS SHIT UP

I know there are tools in every sport but why is it that the baseball tools are the tooliest (standing exception made for Terrell Owens)?

― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Monday, February 9, 2009 12:29 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was wonderin this myself recently, it seems like a greater percentage of baseball's all-time greats are also all-time dbags - it is a mystery

(obviously I am praying Alberticus is not in the 104.)

― bnw, Monday, February 9, 2009 1:16 PM (47 minutes ago)

;-)

my understanding is that baseball players are well-known as the dumbest of all pro athletes, dunno why that is but it may have something to do with the douchiness

hey guys it's ji

As of 5/3/2007:

Homerun average (HR/AB)
1) Mark McGwire - .094
2) Babe Ruth - .085
3) Barry Bonds - .077
4) Jim Thome - .074 (active)
5) Albert Pujols - .072 (active)
6) Ralph Kiner - .071
6) Manny Ramirez - .071 (active)
8) Sammy Sosa - .070 (active)
8) Harmon Killebrew - .070
10) Alex Rodriguez - .069 (active)

sosa not active...

dan they are basically magic make u perform better pills - obv yr starting w/a baseline talent - but theyll give a guy w/warning track power big home run numbers every time

― WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Monday, February 9, 2009 11:56 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if this is the case then why have all the big name hitters who were implicated been guys who were ALREADY sluggers? where are the undersized shortstops beefing up their power numbers? why are most of the guys implicated no-name relief pitchers? nigga u r just MAKING THIS SHIT UP

― my heigl-lohan girl (who's also latina and half-jewish) (cankles), Monday, February 9, 2009 5:02 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sry there are way more desperate no name relief pitchers in the world than famous power hitters - and yah bonds et al were already sluggers who had not until they started juicing broken any home run records

sounds like ure... agreein w/me 8-) *puts feet up on desk*

;-)

― (*ﾟーﾟ)θ L(。･＿･)　　　°~ヾ(･ε･ *) (Steve Shasta), Monday, February 9, 2009 4:04 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

I know, I dread the shasta blowback. D:

where are the undersized shortstops beefing up their power numbers?

brian roberts did have a magical 2005

Is this a "Steroid User Tearfully Admits to Being Yankee" situation?

plus our livestock sciences are so thoroughly inundated with a myriad of substances to increase food production, that it seems that throwing in steroids is not going to give you an appreciable boost insurmountable by anyone else.

Awesome! Pump a sirloin full of steroids, then eat it! Take that, testing!

I also want to point out that unless you're dealing with identically-raised clones, there will always be an imbalance between pitcher and hitter regardless of the use of steroids.

DO THIS NOW. Dan, you're full of grebt ideas today/yesterday.

I kind of just want baseball to turn into this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9a/Base_Wars_cover.jpg/256px-Base_Wars_cover.jpg

A-Rod's voice is quavering a little bit as he talks about all the fans he's probably lost.