she peaked with that sound
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 February 2013 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
and with the use of Yeatsian rhetoric
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 February 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
nah. Troy is grebt and easily makes any POV but IDNWWIHNG is pretty freakin strong start to finish.
― inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Monday, 25 February 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
Her first album is my favourite but she does too many different things too brilliantly on that album for me to label any one of them her "peak".
― Tim F, Monday, 25 February 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
I would definitely agree that she peaked artistically with her first album, which I basically consider to be immaculate. Not sure I would agree with "creatively". All of her subsequent albums have at least one song on it I don't get at all.
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I love her first album SO much, one of my all time favorite albums no question. But the followup has a lot of great moments in it and I kind of feel like a song like Emperor's New Clothes, for example is the culmination of the sound she explored in Mandinka. There's a lot of things she does on that first album that she explores in new ways on the second. The first works better because of the rawness, but her refinement is interesting and appealing to me also
I really am full of shit though lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 February 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
What I meant to say: "Troy" was the height of using her voice in an inchoate manner in deliberately constricted atmospheres. O'Connor is too restless to have peaks. I loved last spring's record.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 February 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
xpost no I think that's spot on.
― Tim F, Monday, 25 February 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
Universal Mother is underrated in my lonely opinion.
first record: "Let me try a bit of everything." Second album: "Let me try rock-inflected chamber music."
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 February 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
I really dug Faith And Courage -- No Man's Woman has stayed with me for a long time.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 February 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
I think "Fire On Babylon" might be her best track.
― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 25 February 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to "No Man's Woman" and "Jealous" a lot last February; I think my antipathy to Dave Stewart tainted my opinions in 2000.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 February 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
unrelated: I love in Emperor's New Clothes the way she sings 'and how a *praaaaagnancy* can change you' :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 February 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
I love the lyrics to "Emperor's New Clothes" but I am not particularly into the melody or the arrangement, which is the exact opposite reaction I usually have to music
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
xpost Tim I'm not sold on best but Steve otm "fire on babylon" is, on certain days, absolutely crushing.
― inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:23 (eleven years ago) link
ugh phone posting. Tim "agreed on underrated and I'm not sold..." etc
― inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
I like how in the first verse she sings the high notes w falsetto but then after that she just fucking waaaaails
― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:58 (eleven years ago) link
The song sounds so fucking huge and explosive and the dubby reggae vibe is perfect. Also, in the live versions on YouTube the harmonies during the chorus are p killer
― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link
Those unexpected drum fills over the "Emperor" outro -- after a steady chug-chug -- still make me swoon after all these years.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's killer
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
speaking of chug, her electric rhythm strums all over "Jump in the River."
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
xps Oh yeah that too, it's like a minute long!! What an awesome outro!! It reminds me of "Pervesion" by Stereolab.
Have any of y'all heard the "Main Mix" that Hank Shocklee/The Bomb Squad did? It rivals the orig.
― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
xpost stevie otm x2 fire, brimstone, both barrels, etc. for righteous fury, i kinda pair it with "a prayer for england"
alfred otm x2 as well on possibly my two fave trax from that record tho in fairness it's easy to forget due to overplay just how astonishing "nothing compares 2 u" really was when you heard it for the first time.
this revive has made me happy today
― inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
IT'S ALL BEEN A GORGEOUS MISTAKE
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
nothing compares still makes me teary - every time I hear it it's like the first time for me, her voice is just so beautiful it kills me
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
p.s. here is a link to that v hard to track down Bomb Squad remix of "Emperor's New Clothes"
― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 03:42 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09Bm9g6ceKE
― ferreira rocher (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 15 March 2013 06:49 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88wL8oRf45U
― ferreira rocher (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 15 March 2013 07:01 (eleven years ago) link
There's an old article on <a href="http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/10/argentina1/">Freaky Trigger</a> where Tom reviews a bunch of covers of Don't Cry For Me Argentina and nails why hers is the best.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/irish-showbiz/sinead-oconnor-calls-kim-kardashian-6066869
― tayto fan (Michael B), Friday, 17 July 2015 10:53 (eight years ago) link
Ha! She's always great when she kicks off!
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Monday, 20 July 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link
anyone take a gander at her facebook meltdown? ugly stuff...yet reading back over it all in detail.... she sounds like she has some very legitimate concerns about her son. what ugly family business.
― akm, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:55 (eight years ago) link
yeah harrowing stuff. i hope she get help. constant dram with sinead unfortunately.
― tayto fan (Michael B), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link
drama
I feel like everyone's always been cruel to her, especially in the american media. Not an earth shattering revelation I know, just happened to be listening to Troy today
― Treeship, Sunday, 28 February 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link
The peak of Sinead's fame and my SNL fandom both occurred at the same time, but even though I was a kid, I still got that the show (taking a cue from the larger media, of course) was especially brutal to her, both before and after the infamous pope thing. It made me all the more determined to root for her, and I still do.
― pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Sunday, 28 February 2016 23:17 (eight years ago) link
She was calling attention to child sexual abuse over a decade before anyone else cared! That's what that whole thing was about! Fuck america seriously
― Treeship, Sunday, 28 February 2016 23:19 (eight years ago) link
Everyone thought it was just some sort of "edgy" stunt because they're morons
― Treeship, Sunday, 28 February 2016 23:22 (eight years ago) link
Perfectly irrelevant time warp for today, granted
― Treeship, Sunday, 28 February 2016 23:27 (eight years ago) link
I honestly remember Andrew Dice Clay getting more sensitive treatment from the media at the time.
― pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Sunday, 28 February 2016 23:34 (eight years ago) link
I dont remember directly bc i was like four, but i've always known about that whole saga. Wikipedia says that madonna trashed her at the time
― Treeship, Sunday, 28 February 2016 23:39 (eight years ago) link
I remember thinking it was kinda cool but not thinking much of it & them finding out that american media was all flipped out about it was weird, like omg youys really
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 28 February 2016 23:43 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhUzMGQLid4
― flappy bird, Monday, 29 February 2016 02:13 (eight years ago) link
Wow...that is hard to watch.
― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 29 February 2016 11:49 (eight years ago) link
I see she's back on FB, having erased her plaintive frightening posts about being committed last year; and she also appears to be on tour? there's a rather great version of her doing Life on Mars from the other day. She looks fucking tough now, like, I would not fuck with this lady, she might put a bottle through my face.
― akm, Monday, 7 March 2016 14:46 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkI6lzreh4w
― akm, Monday, 7 March 2016 14:58 (eight years ago) link
oh that's a shitty version. Here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNXYFOPRuQ0
― akm, Monday, 7 March 2016 14:59 (eight years ago) link
^goosebumps^
― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 7 March 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, that was from a Bowie tribute concert here.
I think she's massively been treated like shit, and then every few years she does something great and people are all, huh, maybe we shouldn't have treated her like shit. I even liked her Sly & Robbie album.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 March 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link