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Liking Daughter of Cloud more than Paralytic Stalks.

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Friday, 22 February 2013 13:16 (eleven years ago) link

gave up on this dude after whatever the one after "skeletal lamping" was (skeletal lamping ruled tho)

k3vin k., Friday, 22 February 2013 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

agreed.

could be a thread: "releases that ruined bands you previously loved"

dog latin, Friday, 22 February 2013 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

How has it managed to ruin them for you? They have a pretty massive amount of albums out, I'm not sure why the latest one has managed to tarnish them that much. I think the album is OK, personally, but completely understand why it has gone down less well with some...

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Friday, 22 February 2013 14:35 (eleven years ago) link

As I've said elsewhere, the last OM was my album of 2012 and the best thing I've heard OM do. So, let's put it down to the vast scope of subjectivity and allow them their scorn.

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 22 February 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

Daughter of Cloud is ok. Nothing on it feels particularly essential. I've changed my mind on Paralytic Stalks though, it took me a while but I think it's great now.

False Priest ("the one after "skeletal lamping"") is actually my favorite of Montreal album

silverfish, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

xpost there's a link to a review i wrote about that album upthread. it's a curate's egg. for me the whole thing kind of shattered a lot of the illusions he'd built up for me around HFAYTD and SL. like watching a really good movie that ends in such a frustrating and terrible way that it kills all sympathy for the director and actors.

dog latin, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

Just so enamored with "Imbecile Rages" from that NPR video I linked to above. Realized today that that snatch of Dylan melody in there comes from "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue." (Couldn't place it at first.)

timellison, Saturday, 2 March 2013 03:50 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

deserves new thread!

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 April 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

Another one? The guy doesn't stop. Somehow I wish he'd settle back and take a bit more time over his stuff. He's ultra talented but it feels like he's burning through material at a rate of knots when really he could make another hissing-fauna masterpiece.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Sunday, 28 April 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

so this has leaked. anyone heard it yet? i was a full-fledged up through sunlandic twins, enjoyed a lot of hissing fauna, didn't like skeletal lamping much at all, and thought false priest was awful. does this one continue the trajectory?

Z S, Thursday, 12 September 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link

...or will i have to listen to it myself and form my own opinion?!

*shivers*

Z S, Thursday, 12 September 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link

first impression: best since 'hissing fauna'. there are honest to goodness songs instead of overstuffed psych-disco collages

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 September 2013 00:06 (ten years ago) link

that would be a start

HF and SL are classics in my book

sing, all ye shitizens of slumerica (k3vin k.), Friday, 13 September 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link

here is the thread for the new album: of Montreal - Lousy with Sylvianbria

Bee OK, Friday, 13 September 2013 01:08 (ten years ago) link

that's weird, i even did a search for Sylvianbria and didn't find anything. i must have spelled it incorrectly.

Z S, Friday, 13 September 2013 01:23 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Thoughts on the new single?

http://pitchfork.com/news/65869-of-montreal-announce-new-album-innocence-reaches-share-new-song-its-different-for-girls-listen/

To my ears it's one of the catchier, more coherent songs he's done in a while (not that I've been paying very close attention). Lyrically, sounds like he's still, um, working through some stuff…

goodoldneon, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link

Not a Joe Jackson cover? For shame!

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

Real talk though, I've been caning Aureate Gloom for the last few days. It's fucking amazing and maybe one of the best albums of recent years. Let's give this a listen with high hopes then. .

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

yo this is a cool new sonic tack from kevin <3

haven't quite parsed the layers in the lyrics yet. will assign the case to tt

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

video is fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_WDugKPnlk

haven't listened to anything by them post-false priest but this seems promising.

Roz, Thursday, 30 June 2016 01:00 (seven years ago) link

new album, this guy is a machine.

Bee OK, Thursday, 30 June 2016 01:27 (seven years ago) link

this sounds better to me than the material on the previous album, looking forward to seeing it live

Brad C., Thursday, 30 June 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link

I'm a big fan so I have time for every recent album he's made. But I'm hoping the single is an indication he's heading back to more fun and catchy material. Too much anger and misery over the last few albums

PaulTMA, Thursday, 30 June 2016 12:22 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Innocence Reaches is now available for streaming on NPR First Listen

Brad C., Friday, 5 August 2016 23:46 (seven years ago) link

hmm

Bee OK, Saturday, 6 August 2016 02:26 (seven years ago) link

so is this going to be shit or not?

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 12 August 2016 07:40 (seven years ago) link

I'm a massive fan and I think this is kind of middling. It has some great moments (Chaos Arpeggiating in particular stands out for me), but overall it's a bit 'light'. It doesn't have the seething anger of the previous album, nor is it as obnoxiously fun as something like Skeletal Lamping. A couple of the tracks sound like reworkings of old material too. I'm still going to listen to it A LOT.

Paralytic Stalks was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 12 August 2016 08:55 (seven years ago) link

In a good way, right? Well, this is considerably less psychedelic and sprawling than that. Two of the tracks have trap beats...

I think Kevin is at his best when full monster.

nah, i pretty much hated that album. and yeah i loved skeletal lamping. just got sick of his passive aggressive whining really.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 12 August 2016 09:12 (seven years ago) link

That's fair enough. There's a *bit* less of that here, especially as compared with Aureate Gloom.

I thought AG was really cool, and it only got better with repeated listens

Drugs A. Money, Friday, 12 August 2016 10:00 (seven years ago) link

It really grew on me too and overall is probably my 3rd favourite. It's a vicious album with some amazing crescendos.

Now youre going too far...

dl AG might be worth a listen, its really in the same vein as the amazing run from Satanic Panic to Skeketal Lamping

Drugs A. Money, Saturday, 13 August 2016 07:44 (seven years ago) link

the mediocre pitchfork review has arrived

PaulTMA, Sunday, 14 August 2016 11:25 (seven years ago) link

It's a mediocre album tbf

imago, Sunday, 14 August 2016 12:24 (seven years ago) link

Aureate Gloom might well be their BEST album though, it's completely wonderful

imago, Sunday, 14 August 2016 12:35 (seven years ago) link

nah this blows it way imo. already has about twice as much replay value this early. there are some hints at melody this time

PaulTMA, Sunday, 14 August 2016 12:52 (seven years ago) link

um...what

imago, Sunday, 14 August 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link

AG is nothing but wonderful melodies

This has one song up to that standard (Gratuitous Abysses) and one successful trap experiment (Trashed Exes) but little else to sustain me. Will relisten though

imago, Sunday, 14 August 2016 12:59 (seven years ago) link

Chaos A r Peggi a ting is good too coz tt told me to say so. We're at a beer festival

imago, Sunday, 14 August 2016 13:00 (seven years ago) link

I enjoyed Aureate Gloom a lot. Not heard this new one yet.

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 14 August 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

Aureate Gloom is alright, it's just Kevin's misery is starting to grate a little. He's still pretty miserable here but musically it seems much more alive and he keeps threatening to get back to proper melodies again. Either way, I think IR is twice as good

PaulTMA, Sunday, 14 August 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link

"My Fair Lady" is really nice.

timellison, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link

I managed about a song and a half but it was quite enough for me. This guy really needs to step back and consider what he's doing. You can't make music this detailed and release as much material as he does.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Thursday, 25 August 2016 09:15 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i had no idea what to play today so i decided to throw on this new album, Innocence Reaches. the single seemed too forced for me so i didn't know what to expect. the first half didn't grab me but continued to play it. the album seemed to get more and more psychedelic as i went on, very 60s. i think i might actually like this album, looking forward to playing it again in the next few days.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 23:49 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

trying to listen to Innocence Reaches. I don't say this about too many albums but this is nigh-unlistenable. It just sounds like a huge mess. Kevin's lyrics are wooden and don't so much as rub-up against the music than barely attempt to work with it. The music itself regularly goes into sections that sound like a mistake that should have been sorted out in the early stages of mixing.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 3 November 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

new album White is Relic/Irrealis Mood out March 9 on Polyvinyl

Two important events occurred during the making of White Is Relic/Irrealis Mood. I became “Simulated Reality” paranoid and I fell in LOVE.

Well a lot more happened during the process of writing and recording, but those are the two big ones. I also reached a healthy point of self-forgiveness for my failed marriage and became deeply educated in the lies of America the Great.

I feel like a switch was recently turned on in my brain and now I’m beginning to see through the lies that have been fed to me my whole life by the masters of media and by those who control and manipulate the narrative of our cultural identity and social order.

My paranoia began during the presidential election cycle and reached a dangerous peak shortly after the inauguration. In the meantime I watched and read countless works of art in a mad effort to be reminded of how many truly brilliant people there are living/struggling among us and to try to maintain a positive outlook. The works of Angela Davis, Noam Chomsky, Chris Kraus, Ta-Nehisi Coates, and the Autobiographies of Malcolm X and Mark E Smith were all great inspirations, to name a few.

Musically, I was very inspired by the extended dance mixes that people used to make for pop singles back in the ‘80s. It’s so cool how a lot of the 80’s hits had these really intricate and interesting longer versions that wouldn’t get played on the radio and could only be heard in the clubs. I used that template with these tracks, I wanted them all to feel like the extended “club edit” of album tracks.

I also decided to abandon the “live band in a room” approach that I had been using on the recent albums and work more on my own or remotely with collaborators. I used the same drum sample packs throughout because I wanted the album to have a rhythmic continuity to it. I wanted the drums to have a strong and consistent identity, similar to how Prince’s Linn Electronics LM-1 drum machine played such an important role on his classic albums. Zac Colwell also played a huge role on this album, adding saxophones and synths to most of the songs. I also got a lot of help from long time collaborators, and “of Montreal” touring members, Clayton Rychlik and JoJo Glidewell.

The two title concept came to me when I was thinking about how difficult it is to frame the message of a song with just one title, because so often the songs are about so many different subjects. ‘White Is Relic’ was inspired by James Baldwin’s writings regarding the creation and propagation of a toxic American White identity. I’ve come to learn how it’s just a tool wielded by the 1% to give poor white people a false sense of superiority in an effort to keep the masses placated and numb to how deeply we’re all getting fucked by our capitalist rulers. An ‘Irrealis Mood’ is a linguistic indicator that something isn’t yet reality but does have the potential to become so.

I’m always searching for new identities so this concept of the death of “Whiteness” appeals to me greatly. Might be the only way to save the world.

-Kevin Barnes, January 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuFw4IZWOUE

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 06:35 (six years ago) link


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