Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

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record store day release -- Bob Dylan Wigwam b/w Thirsty Boots from the forthcoming Bootleg Series Volume 10, features the demo version of Wigwam and the unreleased track from the Self Portrait sessions.
kind of cool, guess it'll be a 69-70 collection or something? Self Portrait outtakes!

tylerw, Thursday, 21 February 2013 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

oh man self-portrait outakes....do we dare hope for new morning outtakes????

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 February 2013 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

yeahhhh, i assume they'll be clearing the decks of that stuff. probably some of the isle of wight concert too? hopefully there's more cool stuff that's never been bootlegged -- i don' think these two tracks have made it out.

tylerw, Thursday, 21 February 2013 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

crazy that wigwam was released as a single back in the day
http://www.importsounds.com/images/BOB-DYLAN_WIGWAM_061512.JPG
i mean, i really love that song, but... did anyone think it was going to be a hit?

tylerw, Thursday, 21 February 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

what is the demo going to be like, i wonder, hmmmm.

tylerw, Thursday, 21 February 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

These sessions are great. It's nice to see the Self-Portrait era get a reassessment. Funny to think about how much the rock-crit establishment freaked out whenever Dylan dared release anything recorded more for the sheer love of making music rather thanuttering kind of profound poetic statement. I love the way he Dylanizes songs he chooses to cover. Plus his choice of covers has turned me onto some incredible stuff.

thirdalternative, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, early morning rain is one of my faves from that era. i'm sure there was a little self-sabotage going on (as dylan claimed a decade or so later), but also, i think this was just a period where he wanted to make low-key country rock records, along the lines of gordon lightfoot, john prine, kris kristofferson, etc.

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

i'm sure there was a little self-sabotage going on (as dylan claimed a decade or so later)

love chronicles but i trust bob about as far as i can throw him when it comes to his own motivations

so stoaked for this

i wonder if it will have stuff that was part of that weird dark musical or whatever the fuck that new morning grew out of

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

feel like the biggest argument for self portrait as self sabotage is the live like a rolling stone, where Dylan completely flubs most of the lines. maybe bob just thought it was funny?

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

if he had only called it "like a rolling pin," then we would have known for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbb-T7tIDi8

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

heyo

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bob-dylan-revisits-self-portrait-on-next-edition-of-bootleg-series-20130716

...the latest volume in his ongoing Bootleg Series: a four-disc set called Another Self Portrait, drawing on never-before-heard material from Dylan's original acoustic recording sessions and outtakes from Self Portrait along with select cuts from 1968's Nashville Skyline and 1970's New Morning. A deluxe edition will feature a complete recording of Dylan and the Band's 1969 set at the Isle of Wight Festival as well as a remastered version of the original Self Portrait. Both editions hit shelves on August 27th.

Sounds awesome.

tylerw, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link

I've only heard bits and pieces of SP, none of which made me want to delve further. I didn't think it was outright awful, but can't say I'm real excited to hear the stuff that wasn't deemed good enough for it.

(Then again, it could be an Old Ways/A Treasure situation, which I would welcome)

i've twice in the last couple months been in coffee shops playing self-portrait. maybe it's getting rehabilitated.

"""""""""""""stalin""""""""""" (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link

new morning also big w the cool kids in my experience. me, for example.

"""""""""""""stalin""""""""""" (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

So excited for another Bootleg Series release, but what really piqued my interest was this quote:

"Sets for Blood on the Tracks and Blonde on Blonde will eventually come out. When fans hear the Blonde on Blonde set, they'll realize that the real hero of the sessions was pianist Paul Griffin. . . There will also be a Basement Tapes box one day. We're trying to get the best sources on all the Basement Tapes. That'll happen one day, absolutely."

Hope I live long enough to hear those two/three releases.

scubasteve, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

I think Dylan being relatively hands-off with the bootleg serieses bodes well for future volumes appearing in our lifetimes.

I'm excited by this and any upcoming sets. We'll likely see them all before the second volume of Neil's Archives.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link

I need me some Homegrown

waterface, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

I hope this is good--not a big Self Portrait fan here

waterface, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

The outtakes from this era are great so I'm pretty stoked.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link

the blonde on blonde bootlegs sound amazing from that description. it's hard to believe they aren't just floating around the internet somewhere....

i'm stoked about another self portrait too though. i like that one, even though it i agree that it is cynical and bitter and everything that everyone accuses it of being.

Treeship, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link

I really want the super-duper special edition but fucking hell not for $125.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

http://www.bobdylan.com/us/node/31036

waterface, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link

Was Levon drumming at this show or was it Mickey like the early tours?

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link

Wasn't excited until I watched that video--alternate versions sound good.

Think it was Levon

waterface, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link

isle of wight is a good set -- pretty laid back for a huge festival gig. lots of cool, unique versions. and yeah it's levon drumming (and singing quite a bit too). there are two tracks from it on the official self portrait -- "minstrel boy" and a hilarious "like a rolling stone" (the latter being the worst song from the set probably). best thing might be dylan's solo "wild mountain thyme".

tylerw, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link

Alternate take of "Dogs Run Free"!!!

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

looks so good!
The Bootleg Series, Vol. 10 - Another Self Portrait (1969-1971)
CD 1

1 Went To See The Gypsy (demo)
2 In Search Of Little Sadie (without overdubs, Self Portrait)
3 Pretty Saro (unreleased, Self Portrait)
4 Alberta #3 (alternate version, Self Portrait)
5 Spanish Is The Loving Tongue (unreleased, Self Portrait)
6 Annie's Going To Sing Her Song (unreleased, Self Portrait)
7 Time Passes Slowly #1 (alternate version, New Morning)
8 Only A Hobo (unreleased, Greatest Hits II)
9 Minstrel Boy (unreleased, The Basement Tapes)
10 I Threw It All Away (alternate version, Nashville Skyline)
11 Railroad Bill (unreleased, Self Portrait)
12 Thirsty Boots (unreleased, Self Portrait)
13 This Evening So Soon (unreleased, Self Portrait)
14 These Hands (unreleased, Self Portrait)
15 Little Sadie (without overdubs, Self Portrait)
16 House Carpenter (unreleased, Self Portrait)
17 All The Tired Horses (without overdubs, Self Portrait)

The Bootleg Series, Vol. 10 - Another Self Portrait (1969-1971)
CD 2

1 If Not For You (alternate version, New Morning)
2 Wallflower (alternate version, 1971)
3 Wigwam (original version without overdubs, Self Portrait)
4 Days Of '49 (original version without overdubs, Self Portrait)
5 Working On A Guru (unreleased, New Morning)
6 Country Pie (alternate version, Nashville Skyline)
7 I'll Be Your Baby Tonight (Live With The Band, Isle Of Wight 1969)
8 Highway 61 Revisited (Live With The Band, Isle Of Wight 1969)
9 Copper Kettle (without overdubs, Self Portrait)
10 Bring Me A Little Water (unreleased, New Morning)
11 Sign On The Window (with orchestral overdubs, New Morning)
12 Tattle O'Day (unreleased, Self Portrait)
13 If Dogs Run Free (alternate version, New Morning)
14 New Morning (with horn section overdubs, New Morning)
15 Went To See The Gypsy (alternate version, New Morning)
16 Belle Isle (without overdubs, Self Portrait)
17 Time Passes Slowly #2 (alternate version, New Morning)
18 When I Paint My Masterpiece (demo)

Bob Dylan & The Band
Isle of Wight - August 31, 1969

1 She Belongs To Me
2 I Threw It All Away
3 Maggie's Farm
4 Wild Mountain Thyme
5 It Ain't Me, Babe
6 To Ramona/ Mr. Tambourine Man
7 I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine
8 Lay Lady Lay
9 Highway 61 Revisited
10 One Too Many Mornings
11 I Pity The Poor Immigrant
12 Like A Rolling Stone
13 I'll Be Your Baby Tonight
14 Quinn The Eskimo (The Mighty Quinn)
15 Minstrel Boy
16 Rainy Day Women #12 & 35

tylerw, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link

There will also be a Basement Tapes box one day. We're trying to get the best sources on all the Basement Tapes. That'll happen one day, absolutely."

Hope I live long enough to hear those two/three releases.

― scubasteve, Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:53 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's that Tree With Roots 4CD bootleg floating around, tons of amazing stuff.....man...

adrian "stanky" legg (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

See You Later, Allen Ginsberg

waterface, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

See you later, Crocogator! Bob Dylan & the Band invented the SyFy movie with that track.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link

Starring Jack Kerouac as The Lifeguard

waterface, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link

We'll likely see them all before the second volume of Neil's Archives.

lol we need a thread that tallies all the ilx comments about how neil is never going to release archives II

marcos, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

fwiw, this'll make the second Bootleg Series that's come out since the first volume of Archives was released.

i'm guessing that bob isn't quite so heavily involved in this shit as neil - think it was maybe marcus who said that dylan felt better abt releasing his old archive stuff now that his newer recs were getting decent reviews, sales etc again, dunno if that's true or not, makes sense to me, tho

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link

man i love al kooper

szarkasm (schlump), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link

i think bob has basically signed off on the bootleg series as an ongoing thing -- would be surprised if he cares that much one way or another? obviously he doesn't want it conflicting w/ his new albums, but i'm sure he's ok with the steady stream of royalties.
neil on the other hand, yeah, you imagine he's deeply involved in every last thing having to do with the archives.

tylerw, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link

Hmm, so how much is the "Dylan" album being ignored as far as this set is concerned?

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link

It'll be a secret bonus in the deluxe delux version, only purchasable at Dylan shows in states whose names end in vowels.

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

Dylan was a revenge/dick move by Asylum, so it makes sense that it's being ignored.

CBS/Columbia, you mean.

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link

Right, whoops.

Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:06 (ten years ago) link

Asylum's dick move was releasing Planet Waves (I kid,I kid).

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link

Actually, it was misspelling Richard Manuel's name on the cover.

Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:23 (ten years ago) link

^^That's never been fixed BTW.

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link

Well, maybe he should complain.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link

Might be old news but this announcement has led me to this amazing RS 1984 Dylan profile by Kurt Loder - where they actually openly discuss what the bootleg series will become. Also some good stuff on Self Portrait:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bob-dylan-recovering-christian-19840621

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 08:13 (ten years ago) link

two of Dylan's most trusted friends — Larry "Ratso" Sloman…

i dunno, does that sound like a guy to trust

j., Wednesday, 17 July 2013 08:15 (ten years ago) link


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