Skyfall: Bond #23

assassins choosing desk jobs after a few years seems reasonable

Tbf she started the movie killing our hero, perhaps 00 status wasnt exactly nailed on at that stage

the moneypenny thing was horrible

who was it that pointed out that they never actually recovered that special hard drive of all agents everywhere... oops

If they decrypted the list the hard drive would be completely useless?

YOUR hard drive would be useless

ultimately though nobody besides bardem actually succeeds at doing what they're trying to do in this movie rite?

wow let's get back this decrypted hard drive they could have made a zillion unencrypted copies of

yeah silva is the winner

moneypenny's character arc was so depressingly retrograde

my thought when they were making all the shaving jokes at the end:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cc/A-close-shave.jpg/220px-A-close-shave.jpg

did it seem to anyone else that this was largely stitched together from familiar action-movie tropes? almost literally, in a shot to shot way? some obv (apocalypse now), some less so (i actually can't think of one now, shit), and some overbearing (bond IS the dark knight...like, with a stately home he blows up and an old guy he owns)

bardem earned his keep but his character was a uh-oh-danger-GAY (vs bond teaching us to be MEN) dude that was maybe two-face (on the inside...of his face), maybe jaws, also btw he was locked in a crystal and at one point laughed maniacally I AM JUST SAYING HERE

the reptilian part of my brain kinda loved this, and thought it well-made or w/e, but if i think about it even for a second it's just crappy

i basically agree with that last sentiment, like walking out of the theater i was "bond returns in style in this delightful new--" and then i started to think about it and it fell apart, as if i'd removed the mandible from the movie's jaw and it revealed its horrible true guise.

it's kinda weird that my two biggest complaints are that it was too referential and "young" (hackers! Q has a floppy haircut and a sweatervest! moneypenny isn't just a secretary, she's an agent!) and that it reveled in bond's piggish chauvinism, and excused it maybe? it's like it was written for archer to parody

Yeah it was really trying to have it all with the self-referential shit and the above-being-a-bond-movie shit and idk at least two other layers of overthinking, it rested heavily and shapelessly over some very good action scenes.

an old guy he owns

i thought this was hilarious btw, bond's been gone for years and returns to his family's abandoned estate and ah this old painting, look at the dusty furniture, and why there's that old fella still in the same corner, hasn't moved has he?

Ah, mr bond. I've been expecting you.

an acquaintance of mine used to call it 'james bonding' a film when you were too intent on plot/continuity/reason to enjoy the spectacle of a blockbuster action movie.

and i get that, which is why i don't care that bond survived a fatal shooting/fall in the opening scene or magically picked out the password for q. (was there a 'zoom in! enhance!'? i don't even remember.) or that dude was 'one of six ppl in the world to use these radioactive bullets'.

but the whole plot made no sense. there was ridiculous shit like albert finney and his flashlight as the burning estate lit up the night. craig's bond is humorless; he can get away with shit like 'a waste of good scotch' even less than his predecessors. i liked the bourne movies -- if they wanna go that route it's cool with me, but if so they need to go all the way. as it was, it's a mishmash of bullshit trying to have it every which way.

i mean srsly fucking give slock1 the bond franchise

now i'm just wondering what ronin would have been called if it had been a bond movie

if bond is going to be a tough old relic of the cold war he may was well chase some ice skates wanted by the ira

would have been called bonin obv

bonin'

anagrams amirite

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-11/the-secret-james-bond-missed-in-skyfall-.html

back to yr point about Craig being humorless, I think he was really funny and charming in casino royale, he was A++. But they're fucking up his initial take on the role.

anagrams

too clever by half

I don't mind attempts to humanize bond but bruce wayning him wasn't really the way to go.

― christmas candy bar (al leong), 17 February 2013 21:56 (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mind the fuck out of attempts to humanise bond, go make yr own stupid movie if you don't want to make a bond one you pretentious fuckin hack

― birmingham six, guildford four, mumford & sons (darraghmac), 17 February 2013 22:00 (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was directed at mendes, not al leong :(

on rewatching this, it's really much worse than I was originally lead to believe

and Quantum = much better on rewatching than I first thought

thunderball is still pretty dumb, fyi

this movie sucks.

quantum is the best of the craig bonds, as 'bond' movies anyway

Skyfall? More Like DumbAmericanBeautyguysucksatactionfall!

quantum of solace has some really enjoyable set pieces revolving around buildings so it's great in my book

wtf are you people on

QS wasn't that good but it was better than this one

smokin' dat rob ford

s1ocki otm

can we get back to that guy's anagram-based analysis of Skyfall

if you watch Quantum as a direct sequel to Casino (ideally you watch them both in the same sitting) it's waaaaay better

disagree

i think I kinda prefer Casino over Quantum though. Skyfall, Bond-wise my least favorite of the Craigs. But the theme song and the villain are A+, so it's not a total writeoff.

Also I like that whole Macau thing with the sexy dragon lady & the komodo dragons

Casino is quite clearly the best of the Craigs.

I really enjoyed watching all of the Craig Bond movies *shrug*

In fact I think Connery is the only Bond so far whose debut isn't also his best.

it's all better than Roger Moore's entire run tbh

otherwise Morbs otm re: quibbling at a Bond movie

that parkour/crane chase in Casino still blows me away by how great it is

my favorite Skyfall factoid is how Ben Stein became obsessed with Javier Bardem's character

that anagram thing means they were all saying "mum" after all?

I mean, don't get me wrong -- all 3 Craig Bonds are great and I can happily rewatch any of them. the quibbling comes from a place of love, at least for me

lol, yes DJP

I don't mind attempts to humanize bond but bruce wayning him wasn't really the way to go.

― christmas candy bar (al leong), 17 February 2013 21:56 (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mind the fuck out of attempts to humanise bond, go make yr own stupid movie if you don't want to make a bond one you pretentious fuckin hack

― birmingham six, guildford four, mumford & sons (darraghmac), 17 February 2013 22:00 (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was directed at mendes, not al leong :(

― golfdinger (darraghmac), Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:40 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMo_HcRBnUY

the craig bonds for me are like this

casino royale >>>> skyfall >> QoS

but i do enjoy all of them to some degree (CR is a classic, skyfall has incredible elements, QoS is a nice diverting minor bond more than a catastrophe)