I'm burning up, burning up for your VOTES! — ILM Artist Poll #31 is Madonna

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my best friend met her in the Danceteria days when she was dating Basquiat.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

also I want to make sure no one forgets about "White Heat" from True Blue

http://youtu.be/w-MtJ9Pgslk

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

lovely post, plax

For me her boringness now isn't how she's a set of hardened signifiers so much as an artist who's lost considerable songwriting talent AND, to be expected, isn't as interested in keeping her ear on the ground listening for distant rumblings.

Still, I don't have a problem admitting that she's responsible for the greatest collective body of singles since Washington became president.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

White Heat is fantastic. Last night, I developed a new affection for Where's The Party? as well.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

Here's another forgotten one: "Keep It Together." I love both the singles remix and the guitar-bass-drums album version.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

the shimmering glissando that opens "Lucky Star" is one of the most important moments in pop music in my lifetime

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

^^^

so so so so so stoked for this!

you know that your shoes are broken (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

(that's actually not quite true, but Lucky Star is a shoe in for top 3, this whole thread is OTM X 10000)

you know that your shoes are broken (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

oooh I almost forgot to rep for my favorite Like a Virgin album track

it's a great combo of slow-dreamy but groovy enough to dance do, it's just so hooky and dreamy and lovely
her voice sounds so young and BIG here. it makes me v nostalgic and happy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWbgHnzMltI

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

I'm pretty unschooled in Madonna, but I'm tempted to vote just because "Borderline" deserves all the #1 votes it can get.

I Don't Wanna Be Dissed (By Anyone But You) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

xpost **dance to

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

from what I remember of Like A Virgin the album, I loved all of the singles and detested all of the non-singles

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

"White Heat" is great, was probably the next deep cut i was gonna post. instead, the only Madonna song from the Who's That Girl soundtrack that wasn't a single, "Can't Stop," which is awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXb4aQnnG-c

some dude, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

True story: I've never seen any of the Madonna movies from the 80s.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

I really, really dig Ray of Light album tracks as well, particularly "Skin":

http://youtu.be/mtOCIHLLqz4

also I've always liked "Angel" and "Dress You Up" more than "Material Girl" and "Like A Virgin"

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

has there ever been another artist who parcelled out so many of their biggest hits to album soundtracks? xp

harvester of lols (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Johnny Fever!!!

you gotta see Desperately Seeking Susan at LEAST.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

If you've never seen her monologue from SNL in 1985, you aren't alone. It's especially hard to find now. Just tracked it down on a sub-youtube video site: http://facedl.com/fvideo.php?f=aowokxoikwnnoqw&madonna-snl-monologue-1985

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

do you remember her promo commercials from then when she was standing next to a scared-looking Anthony Michael Hall and introduced herself with "Hi. I'm Madonna and this is a virgin"

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, don't like "Material Girl" or "Like a Virgin," really, though I'm OK with the latter. Highlight of the Nile Rodgers book, though, was the debate over which of those two songs should be the lead single. Also, getting "Material Girl" to work despite it being the absolute wrong key for Madonna.

Actually, all the Madonna stuff is great. When he meets her, after the first album, she's sleeping on a mattress on the floor of a shit apartment. Also, "Like a Virgin" (the album) was in the can forever, since the first album started blowing up after they had already written it off. Also, Madonna had some incredible pop instincts, knowing exactly which songs and why, which clubs and why, and so on.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

It took years to warm to Like a Virgin. "Pretender" is my jam now.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

Dress You Up is likely my favorite of the Like a Virgin singles but Crazy For You is likely my favorite song ever written

harvester of lols (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

Pretender is great. I also really like Stay except it gets a bit dead-sounding after a while.

LAV was the first single-artist album I ever bought with my own money. $13 on cassette. I wore that thing out.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

oh wow I totally forgot how great 'Til Death Do Us Part' is. That loop that runs through it reminds me of a sped-up We Belong (ie Pat Benatar)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Ray of Light non-single highlights:

Swim
Sky Fits Heaven
Candy Perfume Girl
Little Star

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

"Sky Fits Heaven" and "Little Star" are so so great

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

The piano in the chorus is what makes it.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

I love that you think all those things about Madonna, (ico), but I'm with Alfred: she's responsible for the greatest collective body of singles since Martha Wash became president. Plus I don't hear imperialism in "Vogue" so much as endorsement and co-opting, but I'm a straight white male, so what do I know?

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry to be a drudge, but I'd estimate 4th, 5th, 6th greatest body of singles. Or thereabouts.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, I guess I'm not a straight white male.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

I'm currently trying to get through MDNA. Didn't a couple of people upthread rep for "Gang Bang"? It's more goddamned stupid than I even remembered.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

it's also one of the best songs on that album

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

(it ended up being the first song on a Spotify playlist I created called "I am as shocked that I like this song as you are")

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

She can't do fun convincingly anymore, so I'll take the inverse.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

it's weird that for such a definitive or at least defining singles artist, I have such a hard time considering Madonna a mere singles artist.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

the last convincingly fun and clever thing she did was that shirt that said mother on the front and f***** on the back.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

oh don't worry: I don't.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

a Spotify playlist I created called "I am as shocked that I like this song as you are"

Ha! Is it still active?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

Yay!

skip, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

JF: http://open.spotify.com/user/djperry1973/playlist/4JOk6Ujsdg4fbD6tfe1L5O

I stopped adding things to it shortly after Farrah Abraham melted my brain

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, curse you for making me aware this Train cover of "Umbrella" is a thing that exists.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

I blame some dude, he introduced me to it

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know if this counts as a remix but I love love her version of Erotica on the Confessions Tour, based on Erotica's original demo You Thrill Me (almost wish she'd never changed the lyrics in the final version, they fit the album so well):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRvgtVaJMAc

prolego, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

okay so I went to the used cd store and bought a copy of Confessions (as I lol'd at the sheer number of copies of MDNA in the racks)

this is happening this afternoon

I figured spotify was too 'optional'. i've committed now. i'm all in.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

GOOD DAY!

Sometimes, Confessions is my favorite Madonna album (and it's never not in the top 3).

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

I also snagged a $3 copy of Erotica. such is my level of commitment

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

(those three, kind of like a carousel of favorites, are True Blue, Ray of Light and Confessions)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

she's kindof hardened into a set of signifiers

fantastic post, plax.

it's always seemed to me that she was pretty much born as a set of signifiers. as a celebrity, i can't stand her. every word she's every uttered in public sounds scripted, calculated and pre-cleared. and forced. and almost intentionally irritating. and she's one of my three or four favorite artists of the last 30 years. i fell in love with her the first time i heard her sing "it would be/it would be so nice," which remains one of my favorite moments in all of pop. the melodic lift, the spiritual lift, the physical release and the welcoming arms of those eight syllables is just so impossibly beautiful and heartbreaking and happy. the artist she most reminds me of in her strange balance of charmlessness and musical grace is paul mccartney. and i really really do love her. i'm currently shuffling a spotify playlist of her entire catalog and am newly amazed at both the depth and the breadth of it.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

xp Don't worry. I got S/T, I'm Breathless and Erotica covered.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link


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