Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

like this dude

http://troll.me/images/ancient-aliens-guy/im-not-saying-it-was-aliens-but-it-was-aliens.jpg

only on slightly different substances

"You will die, slowly..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwRXPSJL7E4

unemployment = starting voyager, lol with me friends.

say it ain't so

our roommate Pat was watching a later episode last night and i want to be able to watch it w him.
i need to finish DS9 too.
and then.. babylon 5.

hulu has some sort of best-of Trek playlists right now

Mr Veg & I got free tickets to see the screening of the remastered fancified TNG: THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS on April 25th

:D
:D
:D

We're going too. Of course we're going.

omg i want to go to that but i dunno if i can buy tickets at this pt in time :\

I kind of like Voyager! Janeway and Tuvok are badass.

yeah, the characters are pretty solid! It got a bit soap opera-ey but there are some solid bits

yeah this doesn't seem so bad at all

How bad is Enterprise?

the opening theme song kind of sets the tone for how bad enterprise gets. the mirror 2 parter was fun, fan-fictiony action though.

haha, i always forget that one even exists -- sorta like that sitcom lucille ball did in the '80s. i wonder how many new ST shows they thought they could get away with. crazy to think that if TNG had lasted just one more year there would've been three ST series on the air at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsExp2ebB4s
good sneaky opening, too

There is a pretty great two-parter in Enterprise, and a few other select episodes. Unfortunately, the good two-parter consists of the second- and third-to-last episodes

Philip otm about mirror universe being fun, though

Enterprise started out not as terrible as the theme song, but I lost interest after the first season. Mr Veg watched it all the way through, and ranted a lot about the rewriting of key ST canon but he mostly was okay with it.

Sometimes when I am feeling feisty and either really drunk or hungover and self-loathing (mostly the latter) I will sing a heavily inflected version of the Enterprise theme song at my cat to spite his existence

Watched First Contact recently and was struck by the absurdity of humanity progressing from savages to space travel to RUNNIN THIS SHIT in the course of 200 years when the Vulcans etc. had been doing it so much longer.

holy shit, the Enterprise theme song sounds like it was appropriated from a failed WB adult drama of that era.

it's been one of my great joys in life to sing that theme song to Mr Veg at random times throughout our marriage

I loooooooooove how cheesy and terrible it is. It makes me so happy.

200 years is a long time, technologically-speaking, and the vulcans don't really lend well to running shit. just ain't logical.

IT'S BEEN LOOOOONG ROAD
GETTIN FROM THERE TO HERE

CAUSE I'VE GOT FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAITH OF THE HEART

btw the theme song to Enterpise is written by Diane Warren, the same songwriter that brought us the theme song to Armageddon (as performed by Aerosmith)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yijcWsLda8

it could only have been made better if she'd have teamed up with Desmond Child and sent into Cher JUST LIKE JESSE JAMES territory. but that would have been too much awesome for one theme song.

apparently she has written eighty billion songs, most with a similar sentiment or tone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_written_by_Diane_Warren

this is the worst fucking opening of any fucking star trek series, ever

btw she wrote that Cher song, assuming you knew that, but stating it for others in the audience who have no idea wtf it is

it's bad, but in a really awesome way. let's be clear.

The thing about Enterprise is that Scott Bakula is terrible in it.

Half of his delivery is as stilted as a middle school thespian giving sincere, over enunciated first line readings of the drama club's fall production of Our Town.

All ST series are worthy of watching all the way though. Except for the original series.

did you hear the throwaway line in the Abrams ST movie where they implied Scott teleported Bakula's character's dog into oblivion

*Scotty

Porthos noooo! He was my favorite character on Enterprise.

well, they said a beagle and he was "Commander" Archer, so unless dog lifespans have significantly advanced, it was probably Porthos 2

that spock lady's catsuit got a bit much after the initial O_O wore off

AllNo ST series are worthy of watching all the way though. Except for the original series.

― Jeff, Thursday, April 4, 2013 2:51 AM (2 hours ago)

fixed.

the engineer on enterprise is pretty good

the show's not terrible

Definition of disappointment: the little leap in my brain when I see "Star Trek" while channel hopping and then the fall when I see ": Enterprise".

I can't remember the theme to Enterprise, when I try to think of it I just get I DON'T WANNA WAIT. FOR OUR LIIIIVES TO BE OVEEEEER.

Voyager was my ST show of choice back when it was on and I was passing into and through my teens, when I've seen it more recently good GOD is it ever boring.

enterprise theme changed, didn't it, between seasons? think it was jel, late of this parish, that pointed this out. both were awful.

voyager had some great standalone episodes. enterprise fell into the time-travel trap, backwards and forwards until all but the kind of fanboys that take notes during episodes couldn't keep up with it.

If it changed, it changed from awful song to another awful version of the same awful song.

I remember when it first aired and being pretty psyched about it and the theme song coming on and Jeff and I just looking at each other like, "What the fuuuuuck is this shit?" Anyway, I agree that overall it's not terrible, but I probably spent equal time making fun of it as just watching it. I mean, who the fuck comes to a brand new planet and just plops down in a runabout and lets his idiot Beagle run wild, shitting invasive new bacteria all over the place? The runabout lifts off, screen says "Three months later...," and the planet is a barren wasteland.

tbf, Star Trek seems to assume that bacterial epidemiology ain't no thang once you discover warp drives.

Enterprise made a big deal about decontaminating everybody coming back on the ship. I think a couple of episode A stories were about people nearly dying in the decon chamber. But that was obviously a ploy to have somebody rub blue gel all over T'Pol's mostly naked body.

xp panspermia hypothesis reduced down to a small dog taking a leak all over loads of planets