GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

none of his friends would let Ray move in with him

my god did no one on ilx watch this ep to the end of the credits when hannahs alarm goes off and shes late for work, fucking people

only a piece of trash falls out of her pants...

Has the show ever used music like that?

I said the same thing; I thought this was Michael Penn's best stuff. Totally beautiful and melancholic.

idk in my world of young ppl it totally slots in that somebody could discover some stranger is a recovering junkie and think 'wow I bet that dude could score me some drugs'

probably the message is 'yes, young people these days are that self-absorbed and tone deaf. you were like this too probably when you were 20, you have just forgotten about it.'

I think the drug-scoring scene was a fair use of absurdity to illustrate Hannah's solipsism. It was kind of Curb-esque.

Second time watching this episode, still dug it, but Hannah's confession at the end felt a bit pat and "Oscar scene"

and of course she was trying to stir shit up by kissing him in the kitchen. she just had no idea which way it might go, but knew it'd go somewhere, anywhere, anyway, "advancing the plot" of her life. that's part of her whole deal.

Exactly; she throws shit out there to see what will happen. I'd be interested to see a scenario where a deliberately provocative act doesn't come off well. I'll also be very interested in whether we ever see mr handsome grown up dr with a brownstone again.

Jessa will shag/eat/kill him.

also: punch

shag/eat/kill

worst sandra bullock sequel.

I'll also be very interested in whether we ever see mr handsome grown up dr with a brownstone again.

obviously not

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wth

dude is missing all kinds of points and also possibly throwing shade at Christina Hendricks who was not Hollywood's idea of anything before Mad Men

Exactly; she throws shit out there to see what will happen. I'd be interested to see a scenario where a deliberately provocative act doesn't come off well.

This happened in the first season where she jokingly accused the guy who was interviewing her for a job of being a date rapist at school. That's just off the top of my head.

I thought this last episode was AMAZING btw. Loved every moment.

My article, "I Am Super-Hot Guy Who Has Slept With Women Who Look Like Lena Dunham", was sadly rejected by xoJane.

hehe http://lamegenerator.wordpress.com/2013/02/13/i-look-a-lot-like-patrick-wilson-and-ive-banged-lots-of-chicks-who-look-like-lena-dunham/

i sort of feel like lots of discussion of why would he with hannah sort of overlooks the obvious -- she's in her early 20s, she's in his house, she kissed him, and he's going through a divorce and feeling really conflicted.

one interesting way to read this episode is as the other side of a manic-pixie-dream-girl type thing.

I feel like I say this after every episode but so much of this show is so real to me/hits so close to home/reflects my own experiences with life in ways I have never seen in media before (like, I basically did this episode in Raleigh, N.C. two years ago). When ppl are all "oh man this show is SOOO UNREALISTIC and absurd" or talk abt how it's a crazy, farce-ish comedy thing like some hipster update of an 80's Bette Midler film it basically comes off as them boasting abt how out of touch they are.

lol, i do think of you when i watch this show Steve

i sort of feel like lots of discussion of why would he with hannah sort of overlooks the obvious -- she's in her early 20s, she's in his house, she kissed him, and he's going through a divorce and feeling really conflicted.

OTM

Also, and largely building on all of the above, I saw part of his motivation as willing himself to just go along with something that normally would seem too out-there, largely because Hannah was driving things so all he had to do was agree.

Reminded me of the Taylor Swift lyric in "Treacherous": "I can't decide if it's a choice / getting swept away / I hear the sound of my own voice / asking you to stay" - funnily enough this is literally applicable here, Hannah asking dude to beg her to stay allowed him to do something that his persona would never countenance otherwise.

I think a lot of weird romantic / amorous encounters can be like this, it's almost as if you're going along with things just to be agreeable, but at the same time it's more than that, you're being agreeable because it allows you to experience something without taking the responsibility for having planned or directed it.

xp stevie in a skort.

tim, i like your post better than the episode :-(

Emily Nussbaum on this ep

Loved nussbaum's take.

Last night a guy told me he thought Patrick Wilson's r'ship with Hannah is a cipher for the audience's, which struck me as possibly true and very subtly done if so.

"But what has two thumbs and really loved the episode? This critic."
NUSSSBAAAAAUUUUUUUM OUT

"my god did no one on ilx watch this ep to the end of the credits when hannahs alarm goes off and shes late for work, fucking people"

no! that's interesting. I DVR'ed it and it cut off during the credits.

i think that was a joke.

shhhh

go back to yogurt town, kike

the ray & adam show was entertaining

liked ray's idealized vision of "a family and its dog" vs. what he actually found there

a lot of funny throwaway lines in this one. like when they get on the ferry mumbling "stupid fucking boat." or the woman going "control your animal!"

finding this show less interesting when it gets nu-sitcom
after last week's ep, i want more stand alone A-thread stories with individual characters instead of five poorly developed B-threads

i think id prefer if it cared less abt character arcs & had less thru-plotlines

― johnny crunch, Monday, June 11, 2012 9:24 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=O5ocODl0fUI

smdh

http://i.imgur.com/ietCg3G.png

nagl, whoever Lisa Lampanelli is

insult comic - cf comedy central roasts etc

she's aweful

awful even

Hate her so much.

This show is not so awful. I enjoyed the dog-driven dude time in the last one. Also Marnie's situation just sort of feels less and less realistic each show, like this guy is obviously an idiot and you seem to have known him for a while, this can't be the first time he has acted like a complete asshole to you. Then again maybe that's just realistic and if we actually learned from our mistakes in real life this show would probably be way different.

Next time Hannah says "I want to experience everything!" someone needs to answer "Except for having a real job".

Lisa Lampanelli is the worst.

In explaining her reasons for switching from journalism to comedy, Lampanelli stated not only for the pay raise, but because “I get to say the n-word word on stage and get paid money."

How provocative.

No no no guys, it's ironic.

it's just hackery.