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Really I'm mostly reminded how powerful those anguished, self-loathing lyrics delivered as if they were threats and as if the singer was the most powerful being in the world were

lex pretend, Friday, 8 February 2013 09:42 (eleven years ago) link

Production-wise I don't think I made the JLP connection then or now: it's like a heavier Sneaker Pimps (and the template Tori took REALLY out there on Venus/Choirgirl) (and PJ on Desire?), and was like my token rock-because-it-sounds-like-trip-hop album

lex pretend, Friday, 8 February 2013 09:44 (eleven years ago) link

It's also weird how the Britney thing is inescapable when listening to the debut but NOT Version 2.0

lex pretend, Friday, 8 February 2013 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

Oh sorry I meant to say: I think that's what i thought at the time but not now. But yeah it also fit in with Portishead and Bjork and etc. that I was listening to, to some extent at least (the other stuff you mentioned obv coming afterwards).

Tim F, Friday, 8 February 2013 09:54 (eleven years ago) link

Re Britney, that's the ennervated quality, yeah?

Tim F, Friday, 8 February 2013 09:54 (eleven years ago) link

"A Stroke of Luck" SO GOOD.

There's a kind of bleary quality to the production which is very trip hop (and which actually not many major label people had picked up on circa 1995 - but it was everywhere by the following year) - whereas the second album is too pristine to give that vibe.

(also Depeche Mode's Songs of Faith & Devotion - I'd expect that was a big reference point for Butch going into this?)

Tim F, Friday, 8 February 2013 09:56 (eleven years ago) link

"Stupid Girl" really stood out as the most perfectly realised of the singles on this listen.

Tim F, Friday, 8 February 2013 10:25 (eleven years ago) link

It sure is! "Queer" has worn the worst imo.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 February 2013 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

Possibly. It was my favourite at the time.

Tim F, Friday, 8 February 2013 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

nah Queer totally held up this morning, it's def the one Britney should cover

I was never a huge fan of Stupid Girl and I think Only Happy When It Rains should probably be relegated to karaoke fun status

Milk is still incredible

lex pretend, Friday, 8 February 2013 12:31 (eleven years ago) link

og or tricky mix

r|t|c, Friday, 8 February 2013 12:36 (eleven years ago) link

(well both obv but i have never decided which i prefer)

r|t|c, Friday, 8 February 2013 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

both, and same

lex pretend, Friday, 8 February 2013 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

maybe the tricky mix just for the added angle?

lex pretend, Friday, 8 February 2013 12:41 (eleven years ago) link

Tricky remix was some of dude's prettiest work.

Tim F, Friday, 8 February 2013 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

his single with creep and alejandra deheza last year reminded me of "milk" (though not as good)

lex pretend, Friday, 8 February 2013 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

Good point about SOFAD and the electro-goth/trip hop nexus. Put the Portishead remix of In Your Room next to the Tricky and Massive Attack mixes of Milk and it makes total sense.

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 8 February 2013 12:48 (eleven years ago) link

wookie might have made a good garbage remixer, always so well attuned to goth vengeance

r|t|c, Friday, 8 February 2013 13:15 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah his remix of "Bulletproof" would have been a classic if it was a remix of Garbage rather than La Roux.

Tim F, Friday, 8 February 2013 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

finally a proper soundtrack for evading goblins while out shopping

r|t|c, Friday, 8 February 2013 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

"stupid girl" is one of those cases of "obvious sample makes song kind of surprising forever" re: the "train in vain" drums

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 8 February 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

THIS IS THE NOISE THAT KEEPS ME AWAKE
MY HEAD EXPLODES AND MY BODY ACHES
LET THE BEATS GO WILD

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

Or whatever she hisses

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

I bet you wish you could let it go
You'll never COME
sucking your THUMB
Better off DUMB

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 February 2016 19:30 (eight years ago) link

why are all the best ilx posts about garbage

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link

anyway i don't admit this on the thread but i heard version 2.0 first which is probably actually why i prefer it to the debut, beyond tim's point about its embrace of bubblegum upthread

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link

some A+ posts here

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 February 2016 19:48 (eight years ago) link

Meritricious vajazzling!

Tim F, Monday, 15 February 2016 20:25 (eight years ago) link

for the tautologous thot

r|t|c, Monday, 15 February 2016 20:46 (eight years ago) link

the guitar solo in "supervixen" sounds like my cat

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link

the feline star that you cannot live without

r|t|c, Monday, 15 February 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link

The bass in "Temptation Waits" sounds like my boyfriend a few years ago when we broke up.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 February 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

I understand at last: the Pumpkins leave me cold because Garbage's plastic gothic overstatement exists.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 February 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link

lol my roommate was just telling me about when she saw garbage open for sp

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link

"shirley manson tended to stick her hands in her armpits a lot"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link

alfred you can sing "shattered dreams" over "vow"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link

I tried. So much for your promises.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 February 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link

lol i was only imagining it

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link

*exegesis about how this is the sophistipop evolution of grunge*

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link

wouldn't that be STP

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 February 2016 21:29 (eight years ago) link

gross

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 21:29 (eight years ago) link

sweat it all out

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 22:10 (eight years ago) link

god, Garbage. this brings back so many warm feelings. I was a huge fan after seeing "Vow" on 120 Minutes one night, got the s/t as a Christmas present. Even emailed the band a few times using an email address I had on this shitty BBS, always disappointed that it was Steve Marker and not Shirley that replied.

recall being uber excited for the sequel and loving "Push It" when it came out, loved that it managed to get more firmly entrenched in pop than its predecessor. still prefer the s/t I think, but choosing a fav on this album is tough.

"Special" was one I always loved, "The Trick is to Keep Breathing", "Temptation"....I haven't listened to this album since probably the 90s and yet the songs are still seared into my head.

gaz coombes? yo he don't got NUTHIN ta prove! (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 February 2016 23:24 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

'The Trick is to Keep Breathing'

Still holds up well, although I prefer the debut.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

(and I speak as someone who thought they sucked in the '90s)

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

every song is shrinkwrapped

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, February 4, 2013 9:16 AM bookmarkflaglink

only learned about this today, perfect:

https://i.imgur.com/5frr6yY.jpg

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 23 September 2023 02:17 (six months ago) link

is that a shrinkwrapped 3" cd single on a card

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 23 September 2023 02:47 (six months ago) link

that’s what it is

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 23 September 2023 04:26 (six months ago) link

well, in a blister pack.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 23 September 2023 04:31 (six months ago) link


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